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Another rather pitiful attempt to lure more oddballs onto the fun fleet. Of course a few more will be tempted, not many though, but a few more.
Im not sure why people get upset or indignant, theres method here after all and that method is all about paying the least.
Upstairs know that the target audience are a bunch of selfish individualistic opportunists aka pilots, who would for the most part sell their first born for a day or two extra off a month and a bit more money, its also clear that the cultural element of 'negotiation' is alive and well, its very reminiscent of a good haggle down in Karama for your Romanian girlfriends genuine Gucci hand bag.
Eventually the price will be right and enough suckers..err takers will be found to put the required bums on seats, everyone has their price.
Im not sure why people get upset or indignant, theres method here after all and that method is all about paying the least.
Upstairs know that the target audience are a bunch of selfish individualistic opportunists aka pilots, who would for the most part sell their first born for a day or two extra off a month and a bit more money, its also clear that the cultural element of 'negotiation' is alive and well, its very reminiscent of a good haggle down in Karama for your Romanian girlfriends genuine Gucci hand bag.
Eventually the price will be right and enough suckers..err takers will be found to put the required bums on seats, everyone has their price.
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Understanding why Emirates exists is understanding the big picture!
Well done mate!
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EK is lowballing the pilot group. For those who aren't familiar with the tactic. This is from the American Management Association website:
The highball/lowball tactic is one of the oldest hardball moves in the book. Your counterpart will open with an extremely high or low offer, which they hope will force you to reconsider your resistance points and goal. If you haven’t done your research, or aren’t aware of what is happening, you may fall for it. The best way to navigate this scenario is to call their offer out and refuse to continue unless they are going to take you seriously. By insisting on a more reasonable opening offer, rather than trying to counter, you force them to continue on your terms while appearing to be more reasonable yourself.
The highball/lowball tactic is one of the oldest hardball moves in the book. Your counterpart will open with an extremely high or low offer, which they hope will force you to reconsider your resistance points and goal. If you haven’t done your research, or aren’t aware of what is happening, you may fall for it. The best way to navigate this scenario is to call their offer out and refuse to continue unless they are going to take you seriously. By insisting on a more reasonable opening offer, rather than trying to counter, you force them to continue on your terms while appearing to be more reasonable yourself.
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EK is lowballing the pilot group. For those who aren't familiar with the tactic. This is from the American Management Association website:
The highball/lowball tactic is one of the oldest hardball moves in the book. Your counterpart will open with an extremely high or low offer, which they hope will force you to reconsider your resistance points and goal. If you haven’t done your research, or aren’t aware of what is happening, you may fall for it. The best way to navigate this scenario is to call their offer out and refuse to continue unless they are going to take you seriously. By insisting on a more reasonable opening offer, rather than trying to counter, you force them to continue on your terms while appearing to be more reasonable yourself.
The highball/lowball tactic is one of the oldest hardball moves in the book. Your counterpart will open with an extremely high or low offer, which they hope will force you to reconsider your resistance points and goal. If you haven’t done your research, or aren’t aware of what is happening, you may fall for it. The best way to navigate this scenario is to call their offer out and refuse to continue unless they are going to take you seriously. By insisting on a more reasonable opening offer, rather than trying to counter, you force them to continue on your terms while appearing to be more reasonable yourself.
Studies have shown that by opening with an offer no one would take, then offering one slightly better, you will have many more takers for the improved offer than would be the case if you offered that same offer first.
Apparently 80 slots and 110 applied.
I don't get it.
36 months paid sick leave. Reduced to 6.
42 days leave. Reduced to 12.
No provident fund but ESB.
Can still do flight numbers from 500 - 900. Fk that.
No bidding.
No tickets.
halas
I don't get it.
36 months paid sick leave. Reduced to 6.
42 days leave. Reduced to 12.
No provident fund but ESB.
Can still do flight numbers from 500 - 900. Fk that.
No bidding.
No tickets.
halas
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why give a ****?
as mentioned above... its not even a B scale.. There will be some EK morons that will do it, and there will be many previously rejected idiots that will get the job.
When you fly with one of them, smile and wave.
J
as mentioned above... its not even a B scale.. There will be some EK morons that will do it, and there will be many previously rejected idiots that will get the job.
When you fly with one of them, smile and wave.
J
The only way it is any way reasonable is if you can take the housing allowance but not live in in Dubai. So fly out as soon as you fly in from duty. Realistically you are going to have to allow for some hotel nights in Dubai. There was mention somewhere that the company were going to supply hotel in Dubai but I cannot see them doing that and paying AED11,000 a month allowance. It certainly is not mentioned here...
http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/pilots/
I see it also changed to 28 days on 13 days off.
http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/pilots/
I see it also changed to 28 days on 13 days off.
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The only way it is any way reasonable is if you can take the housing allowance but not live in in Dubai. So fly out as soon as you fly in from duty. Realistically you are going to have to allow for some hotel nights in Dubai. There was mention somewhere that the company were going to supply hotel in Dubai but I cannot see them doing that and paying AED11,000 a month allowance. It certainly is not mentioned here...
Emirates Group Careers | Pilots
I see it also changed to 28 days on 13 days off.
Emirates Group Careers | Pilots
I see it also changed to 28 days on 13 days off.
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What may be of interest to some is that the education allowance seems to have changed from only being available for Dubai based schools to Global.
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It's Company provided accommodation available 24/7, OR, opt out and take a reduced monthly accommodation allowance but also have hotac provided during your time back in Dubai. Basically, on your month working, you'll be in a hotel somewhere in the World, including Dubai. On your 13 days off, what you do and where you live is up to you. The Company is giving you money to take that that responsibility off their hands. This latter option is the one that the commuting guys will go for.
As for the education allowance, this change in policy is now why it's oversubscribed!
Harry
As for the education allowance, this change in policy is now why it's oversubscribed!
Harry
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On revised condition, now you can choice to stay in company villa or apartment( company accommodation). If you choice not to stay in company accommodation, you can take allowance + hotel room while you stay in Dubai during 28 days pattern
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Oversubscribed?
After all there were still hundreds of EK employees joining Exential despite all the warnings, remember? The heat seems to get to everyone around here ....
Bear with me for the rants telling about the many hours of DH back to DXB on the very same freighter after a already long duty (sometimes in the bunk, sometimes on the comfy chair, next to the loadmaster or horse whisperer, standard food, no entertainment ....). After all it's cheaper than hotel rooms.
They may be paid, but do not count towards the max hours, be they daily, weekly, monthly or yearly.
You'll end up with as many hours as a full contractor, but "only" 500 at stick, as per freighter contract!
I might be wrong though, but ......
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Psychology 101..... Make a rubbish offer and follow it up with something slightly less rubbish. Few if any will accept the first offer but the second will be much more successful than had it been offered in the first place.
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Don't shoot the messenger! Think it was almost 50% oversubscribed in the end. They actually need around 320-330 pilots to crew the operation but are taking only a third of that as a dedicated crew and the rest will be from the passenger fleet as and when.
Despite how some feel towards the deal, it obviously works for others.
Harry
Don't shoot the messenger! Think it was almost 50% oversubscribed in the end. They actually need around 320-330 pilots to crew the operation but are taking only a third of that as a dedicated crew and the rest will be from the passenger fleet as and when.
Despite how some feel towards the deal, it obviously works for others.
Harry