Has EK been the worst decision ever?
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Just makes me wonder what they're going to do with him once he arrives and does the usual UAE incoming tasks... just have him sit? And with the five year bond, does that start the second he arrives or is it when he actually begins flying; Has that changed from the three year?? I'd be surprised if it wasn't the day when he's first online.
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I've heard for years that they hardly can get anyone to join, but if you paste the list into a spreadsheet you will find that in 2015 around 350 joined. 2016 around 560 joined. and by this end of Feb 50 already joined. Im not sure about the quality/experience but they are still joining in big numbers. On the other hand a shocking number of the pilots I talk to is in the process of preparing to leave.
I've heard for years that they hardly can get anyone to join, but if you paste the list into a spreadsheet you will find that in 2015 around 350 joined. 2016 around 560 joined. and by this end of Feb 50 already joined. Im not sure about the quality/experience but they are still joining in big numbers. On the other hand a shocking number of the pilots I talk to is in the process of preparing to leave.
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So, if the nasty rumor is true, and they will force A380 pilots over to the B777. Can someone please confirm that no 5 years bond apply.
So, with no bond, I'll just take the rating and then I'll think about what I'll do.😈
Because there is NO f..ing way I'm going back to the "330" lifestyle.
I've done my fair share of that totally life threatening flying.
So, with no bond, I'll just take the rating and then I'll think about what I'll do.😈
Because there is NO f..ing way I'm going back to the "330" lifestyle.
I've done my fair share of that totally life threatening flying.
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Either way, I agree that all the experienced trainers are pulling the plug and it's going to be green on green.
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Never ever come here as a FO. As they say " ITS A CAPTAIN's AIRLINES". Have heard this so many times now .....why the hell you hire FO's then. Why not hire Captains only and let them fly both seats.
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I've heard for years that they hardly can get anyone to join, but if you paste the list into a spreadsheet you will find that in 2015 around 350 joined. 2016 around 560 joined. and by this end of Feb 50 already joined. Im not sure about the quality/experience but they are still joining in big numbers. On the other hand a shocking number of the pilots I talk to is in the process of preparing to leave.
I've heard for years that they hardly can get anyone to join, but if you paste the list into a spreadsheet you will find that in 2015 around 350 joined. 2016 around 560 joined. and by this end of Feb 50 already joined. Im not sure about the quality/experience but they are still joining in big numbers. On the other hand a shocking number of the pilots I talk to is in the process of preparing to leave.
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......but they are still joining in big numbers
.........and each one of them has already made an exit plan before even joining. Get the required minimum jet time and move elsewhere. EK is about to become the biggest halfway house for pilots in the world. In and out before they know it. Operating the most diverse network of any carrier, with the most ridiculous/obscene rostering practices around.
That's got to be good for safety.
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Prisoners
If he enjoys freedom then dont come. Not as in dubai or the UAE, it has been amazing here. But as an ek prisoner. When i joined it was great, pilots get a appartment in the city which is yours no rules it was great.
However last week "new group security rules"
-you must be in the appartment when a guest is there
-your guest must sign in and out at all times.
-between 1 am and 7 am your guest must have a ek i.d to visit you
-you must get written permission to have a guest come visit from overseas and stay with you (including parents)
Basically all the cabin crew rules have now been put on to pilots too. Kind of like living in Doha.
The people you work with are great. 98% of captains I've flown with are awesome. But im lucky ive already opted out of company housing. But for new joiners that is no longer an option so you will live like a prisoner for ek.
However last week "new group security rules"
-you must be in the appartment when a guest is there
-your guest must sign in and out at all times.
-between 1 am and 7 am your guest must have a ek i.d to visit you
-you must get written permission to have a guest come visit from overseas and stay with you (including parents)
Basically all the cabin crew rules have now been put on to pilots too. Kind of like living in Doha.
The people you work with are great. 98% of captains I've flown with are awesome. But im lucky ive already opted out of company housing. But for new joiners that is no longer an option so you will live like a prisoner for ek.
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So new joiners can opt out but a mate, who tried a few weeks ago, cannot? What kind of BS is that? As for signing in and signing out... I simply wouldn't. End of! And if that meant I'd be fired unless I complied then I'd resign from emirates and that would be that. What a joke this place has become.
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So new joiners can opt out but a mate, who tried a few weeks ago, cannot? What kind of BS is that? As for signing in and signing out... I simply wouldn't. End of! And if that meant I'd be fired unless I complied then I'd resign from emirates and that would be that. What a joke this place has become.
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The opt out was never stopped. Requests to opt out were simply postponed for 6 months for those who were currently in company accomodation but had requested to leave. No one was or is permanently unable to opt out
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30% pay rise or I'm gone!
Banana is in big trouble! 20% only matches what the new guys are getting!! I'm leaving unless we get serious monster improvements ... early roster and 7 requests no longer cut it! Am I a jellyfish or a 250 hr commercial pilot? Wtf?
Supposedly 20% for new hires was because the price of fish in the market has changed!!
Supposedly 20% for new hires was because the price of fish in the market has changed!!