Desperate times...4th AD in less than a month and counting...
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At one point of reading your posts I wanted to ask why do you call the women from the YT clip a "German chick" and not a "German pilot", but I gave up (seems I asked anyway).
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Sealear. Agree with most points. However, the people doing the ads are telling lies. Lots of lies. Steely asked people a few years back to call their friends and tell them to apply. "I want to keep my friends" was the answer. The recruitment videos are the latest part of a failing strategy. Agreed plenty of bad places out there. But at least a few of them have a Labour Law to protect staff. And Unions. EK have neither. They do have horribly demotivated staff, lying and deceitful management and two crashes to explain.
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Sealear,
The payoff for living in a place such as the Middle East was very good terms and conditions that the airline had. It was a balance - to most moving to Dubai was a step back from their own country, but it was made up for by the package: the money, the rostering, the staff travel, the upgrade time.
Those things (perhaps with the exception of the money, just depending on perspective) have gone.
Feel free to leave Australia and Virgin Australia and come to the Middle East to fly for EK. When you have passed through the initial starry-eyed, exciting phase feel free to comment here. But until you have, how about you don't tell those who are living in the Middle East to pull their heads in, while you sit in your very free, very beautiful, very liveable country flying for your unionised Airline?
The payoff for living in a place such as the Middle East was very good terms and conditions that the airline had. It was a balance - to most moving to Dubai was a step back from their own country, but it was made up for by the package: the money, the rostering, the staff travel, the upgrade time.
Those things (perhaps with the exception of the money, just depending on perspective) have gone.
Feel free to leave Australia and Virgin Australia and come to the Middle East to fly for EK. When you have passed through the initial starry-eyed, exciting phase feel free to comment here. But until you have, how about you don't tell those who are living in the Middle East to pull their heads in, while you sit in your very free, very beautiful, very liveable country flying for your unionised Airline?
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Sealear, even the most inept union would have managed to stop Emirates pulling half the tricks it has got away with over the last few years. Remember, they don't even have to follow the labour law of their own country. The only limit to the degradation of our terms and conditions is the fact that they need to recruit new people.
Leaving isn't as simple as you make it sound. It has been said before but it is huge disruption to move your family half way around the World to come here and probably an even bigger disruption to move them back again. It is certainly not the same as getting a new job with a different airline in the same country and, respectfully, unless you have tried it you don't know what you are talking about. I'm sure disruption to childrens' schooling is a major reason many don't leave.
Leaving isn't as simple as you make it sound. It has been said before but it is huge disruption to move your family half way around the World to come here and probably an even bigger disruption to move them back again. It is certainly not the same as getting a new job with a different airline in the same country and, respectfully, unless you have tried it you don't know what you are talking about. I'm sure disruption to childrens' schooling is a major reason many don't leave.
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But it was ok to disrupt the children's schooling and take them away from home to be in a worser place, but not ok to do it again, bring them home and save them from a sandpit upbringing? Tough titties kiddies. We're going home to make mommy and daddy happy and healthy again. My schooling as a youngster got chopped and changed regularly. I turned out ok, I think. 
