Captain 330/340 transfer policy
This is very sad news. Think long and hard, and if able, non-emotionally on how you are going to proceed fellas.
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That is a very good question. One has to wonder if there is a downsizing in plan. Is there to be a change to the fleet plan and specifically the 380?
With a huge void of information from the company, one can only speculate.
It makes for a very challenging cicumstance for those pilots affected. How does one make any kind of informed decisions with, essentially, zero information?
I hope all are able to find a solution that provides them as positive an outcome as possible.
With a huge void of information from the company, one can only speculate.
It makes for a very challenging cicumstance for those pilots affected. How does one make any kind of informed decisions with, essentially, zero information?
I hope all are able to find a solution that provides them as positive an outcome as possible.
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That is a very good question. One has to wonder if there is a downsizing in plan. Is there to be a change to the fleet plan and specifically the 380?
With a huge void of information from the company, one can only speculate.
It makes for a very challenging cicumstance for those pilots affected. How does one make any kind of informed decisions with, essentially, zero information?
I hope all are able to find a solution that provides them as positive an outcome as possible.
With a huge void of information from the company, one can only speculate.
It makes for a very challenging cicumstance for those pilots affected. How does one make any kind of informed decisions with, essentially, zero information?
I hope all are able to find a solution that provides them as positive an outcome as possible.
a. Current eligibility policy stays, and
b. Newly upgraded CAs not meeting requirements currently being discussed by mgt, and
c. 35yr age limit currently being discussed by mgt, and
d. Projected rate of 126 A380 upgrades this year, and his 'guess' is that any shortfall of eligible CAs to be met by taking from B777 but not yet confirmed.
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Well certainly the latest rumour on galley fm (and I'm sure it's been mentioned on here) is the transfer of 380 orders to the 350 to keep Airbus sweet. As a fleet plan that kinda makes sense.
However, whatever the reasons for this latest abuse of the Airbus guys, it is quite simply disgusting and shows the utter contempt. It also sets a worrying precedent for all of us in this company across all the fleets particularly as JA has now stood up in front of a room full of guys and effectively said they couldn't give a monkies if the guys leave as a result of this. Budgeting for a 50% loss in crew clearly indicates at possible changes in fleet planning.
However, whatever the reasons for this latest abuse of the Airbus guys, it is quite simply disgusting and shows the utter contempt. It also sets a worrying precedent for all of us in this company across all the fleets particularly as JA has now stood up in front of a room full of guys and effectively said they couldn't give a monkies if the guys leave as a result of this. Budgeting for a 50% loss in crew clearly indicates at possible changes in fleet planning.
CB, from a good source, no 777 deliveries next financial year. Some earlier than originally planned retirements. 380 deliveries to be halved in same period. Excess on 777 to be transferred to 380. Time will tell.
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As always the information vacuum creates unnecessary stress. Looking at the 380 I can't see us fulfilling the orders as while great to fly on, they are too big for many of our routes so the 350-1000ish looks pretty good. MFFd to the 380 so that we can keep capacity on the slot restricted routes and maximize crew utilization.
Maybe hubris is finally coming home to roost in a more competitive market place.
Maybe hubris is finally coming home to roost in a more competitive market place.
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As always the information vacuum creates unnecessary stress. Looking at the 380 I can't see us fulfilling the orders as while great to fly on, they are too big for many of our routes so the 350-1000ish looks pretty good. MFFd to the 380 so that we can keep capacity on the slot restricted routes and maximize crew utilization.
Maybe hubris is finally coming home to roost in a more competitive market place.
Maybe hubris is finally coming home to roost in a more competitive market place.
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It's called commentary and relates directly to previous posts on this thread, many of which you contributed which also deviate from the original topic.
The answer to all your questions lies directly in the future manpower requirement which, if other posters are to be believed, is diminishing. Likley it will stay in flux until a decision is taken on the 350/787 and that may well directly affect the available slots.
Hopefully the rumored delivery delays above do not actually happen which means those presently affected will not be further delayed.
The answer to all your questions lies directly in the future manpower requirement which, if other posters are to be believed, is diminishing. Likley it will stay in flux until a decision is taken on the 350/787 and that may well directly affect the available slots.
Hopefully the rumored delivery delays above do not actually happen which means those presently affected will not be further delayed.
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Anyway best of luck.
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[QUOTE]It's called commentary and relates directly to previous posts on this thread, many of which you contributed which also deviate from the original topic.
The answer to all your questions lies directly in the future manpower requirement which, if other posters are to be believed, is diminishing. Likley it will stay in flux until a decision is taken on the 350/787 and that may well directly affect the available slots.
Hopefully the rumored delivery delays above do not actually happen which means those presently affected will not be further delayed.
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thank you..now I feel much better.
FYI I have no questions, nor I am spreading rumors or gossips: only bitter facts.
I only asked who your comment was relevant: may be I am little behind...you see, I have no time to fantasize on future Airplane acquisitions..I have got a family to worry about.
No hard feelings.
The answer to all your questions lies directly in the future manpower requirement which, if other posters are to be believed, is diminishing. Likley it will stay in flux until a decision is taken on the 350/787 and that may well directly affect the available slots.
Hopefully the rumored delivery delays above do not actually happen which means those presently affected will not be further delayed.
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thank you..now I feel much better.
FYI I have no questions, nor I am spreading rumors or gossips: only bitter facts.
I only asked who your comment was relevant: may be I am little behind...you see, I have no time to fantasize on future Airplane acquisitions..I have got a family to worry about.
No hard feelings.
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Don't let this thread drift into a 350/787 debate. Just think of fleet reduction , low time Capts being downgraded , 777 Capts transfer to the 380 to balance the numbers. Junior capt on the 777 might not be safe.. something big is looming and it's not good!!!
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Everything is great!
Downsizing?
http://m.gulfnews.com/business/aviation/dubai-international-to-be-world-s-busiest-airport-by-2020-ceo-1.1905832
Size matters in the ME.
Someone tell CM.
http://m.gulfnews.com/business/aviation/dubai-international-to-be-world-s-busiest-airport-by-2020-ceo-1.1905832
Size matters in the ME.
Someone tell CM.
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I agree it appears something is definitely brewing and I think this new low with the 330/340 guys is just the beginning. I'm not sure that there will be any manpower reduction per se (as we don't have enough as it is), but certainly a period of consolidation and a slow down in expansion looks likely. It would be interesting to see now though how they could ever possibly transfer 777 Capts to the LHS on the 380 without giving them a few years in the RHS first!
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Is there any evidence that LHS <2000hrs 380 guys are being called in? I thought they were safe? How ridiculous!
How is the company going to retrain all these guys, some 330 captains still don't have transfer course dates yet, December/January is likely after 5 months of literally zero flying.
Why is it so hard for them to communicate with us?
How is the company going to retrain all these guys, some 330 captains still don't have transfer course dates yet, December/January is likely after 5 months of literally zero flying.
Why is it so hard for them to communicate with us?
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We are living in a Parallel Universe:
New Delhi: In an attempt to prevent poaching, low-cost carrier SpiceJet has decided to increase salary of its pilots by flat Rs 1 lakh.
Termed as "loyalty and continuity allowance", the raise comes at a time when 'old' Indian airlines are struggling to retain their pilots and stop them from switching over to either new airlines or Gulf carriers (which give tax-free salaries).
"SpiceJet has over 500 pilots and we raised their salary in one stroke on Thursday to bring them at par with the best in the industry. Pilots from other airlines can come to us," said a senior official. While a co-pilot and captain's monthly package is in the range of Rs 2-2.5 lakh and Rs 5-9 lakh respectively, this amount will go up by a lakh now.
Another SpiceJet official said the airline reported a profit of Rs 149 crore in the quarter ended June 30, 2016, up 104% from Rs 73 crore in the same period last year, and it wanted to share this with its pilots.
The salary hike comes three months after the LCC offered to buy luxury cars of up to Rs 25 lakh for its pilots and allowed them to retain the vehicle if they stayed with the airline for four years. SpiceJet plans to place a big order of planes, estimated to be around 100 aircraft. "At a time when we are going to increase our fleet size, we need to retain pilots," said the senior official.The fight to retain pilots has intensified in recent months. 'Old' airlines like IndiGo and Air India have asked the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) to raise pilots' notice period from six months to a year. Pilots, cutting across all airlines, want the DGCA approved six-month notice period to be halved to three months. The new Tata airlines, including Vistara, are against raising the notice period.
SpiceJet plans to make use of the upcoming regional connectivity policy where the government will subsidise such flights. The LCC, along with AI subsidiary Alliance Air and Jet Airways has a fleet of turboprops which can be used for regional flying. "We need pilots and we will do all that required to retain them and attract more," said the SpiceJet official
New Delhi: In an attempt to prevent poaching, low-cost carrier SpiceJet has decided to increase salary of its pilots by flat Rs 1 lakh.
Termed as "loyalty and continuity allowance", the raise comes at a time when 'old' Indian airlines are struggling to retain their pilots and stop them from switching over to either new airlines or Gulf carriers (which give tax-free salaries).
"SpiceJet has over 500 pilots and we raised their salary in one stroke on Thursday to bring them at par with the best in the industry. Pilots from other airlines can come to us," said a senior official. While a co-pilot and captain's monthly package is in the range of Rs 2-2.5 lakh and Rs 5-9 lakh respectively, this amount will go up by a lakh now.
Another SpiceJet official said the airline reported a profit of Rs 149 crore in the quarter ended June 30, 2016, up 104% from Rs 73 crore in the same period last year, and it wanted to share this with its pilots.
The salary hike comes three months after the LCC offered to buy luxury cars of up to Rs 25 lakh for its pilots and allowed them to retain the vehicle if they stayed with the airline for four years. SpiceJet plans to place a big order of planes, estimated to be around 100 aircraft. "At a time when we are going to increase our fleet size, we need to retain pilots," said the senior official.The fight to retain pilots has intensified in recent months. 'Old' airlines like IndiGo and Air India have asked the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) to raise pilots' notice period from six months to a year. Pilots, cutting across all airlines, want the DGCA approved six-month notice period to be halved to three months. The new Tata airlines, including Vistara, are against raising the notice period.
SpiceJet plans to make use of the upcoming regional connectivity policy where the government will subsidise such flights. The LCC, along with AI subsidiary Alliance Air and Jet Airways has a fleet of turboprops which can be used for regional flying. "We need pilots and we will do all that required to retain them and attract more," said the SpiceJet official