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Old 6th Sep 2016, 16:02
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Just another office dweller fellas.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 16:22
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Sorry guys......but really who cares......
He will or will not notging will change for us.
Just stay till either bucket is full then leave......
It is not our company and it is not our country.......
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 17:42
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I doubt CM would take a IT project manager position with a glorified title. Something must be cooking behind the scenes. Not being a people person STC wouldn't notice few missing meeting invitations, until it is too late.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 17:59
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To STC, it seems employees are a necessary evil. When asked at the anniversary last year what he attibuted the success of EK, with out missing a beat he said " the management team I put together". So there you have it boys and girls, HIS management team makes this airline run. We can denigrate the 3rd floor and AAR all we want, BUT...........
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 20:37
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Tango U - sadly too true
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 19:43
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So does anyone know if Costa at the bouncy castle is a ghost town now that CM is on the scene, or is it still latte's as usual? Had heard that everyone had scurried off to their desks instead of injecting caffeine all day
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Old 17th Sep 2016, 17:38
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Costa are laying people off at the bouncy castle, I've heard. Profit warning to be issued this week...
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Old 18th Sep 2016, 09:56
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Wasta wins EVERY time fellas!

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I actually sent an e-mail to AAR during my last days as an EK employee. I was complaining on AS DVP Anoma M. He never answered, of course, but I had a goal - I wanted someone on higher instances to read that e-mail and just be aware of her influence on employees. My goals are always long term and I wanted to plant a seed.

It was a fun game for me, actually, because no one at the top knew how to handle me and it was so obvious. I had my disciplinary meeting where I explained everything about labour law, long working hours, how all the lousy conditions will affect EK at the end of it all (I wrote that to AAR and compared EK to Roman Empire) and they looked at me the way I expected they will - like I was crazy.

Two years after and she "left" the company. I've got a comment on my blog from someone inside suggesting that she didn't exactly leave, but was "forced to leave". Everyone in AS were glad to see her back.
So, she had wasta, the word on the street was that AAR was her good friend and protector. But she left anyway and she left quietly. Wasta didn't win.

EK managers don't know how to play long term games. This is why the whole company is falling apart.

Although I was only a check in agent, I have a master's degree and was not interested to work as a check in agent for years. But EK managers don't have any develoment strategies for talented employees, they have only wastas and passport logic. And they play only short term games of exploiting people. But that game ends quickly. And it ends badly, because there are limits of how much you can pressure people to be your slaves. And there are limits of how much you can disrespect and even torture people with working conditions, which is specifically dangerous in airline businesses.

To make the long story short: nothing will change without radical moves. EK became a tool of TC's will for power. That was the begining of the end. A company should never be an instrument of one man or woman to achieve their personal sense of being powerfull.

Stop the company's irrational and greedy growth (which is only the manifestation of TC's ego), be satisfied with certain status quo, position and profit, fire extra managers (especially wasta managers), improve internal communication and organizational culture (not much is needed here, actually - just a little motivation in the form of respect) and give the AAR a sensitivity training - he needs it badly. Oh, and yes - close Costa in HQ.

After that - think for a while. Does brutal capitalism have a future? Do you want to have a future? Do you think that your wasta and punishment culture pays off at the end of it all? Do you think that your managers are afraid to do their job because of all the restrictions and threats? Why you don't allow and why you punish criticism? Can you benefit from a criticism? Do you need smart and skillful employees or you will continue to employ managers based on their wasta and passports? Do you actually understand that you don't have a company without good people to work with you despite of what brutal capitalism's propaganda and new world order's logic of exploiting people are telling you?

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Old 18th Sep 2016, 10:21
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By the time I got to "I have a Masters degree" in your post - you had used "I" or "me" about 20 times.

You have some good stuff but the "self praise is no praise syndrome" holds you back.

Did they not teach you that in grad school?

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Old 18th Sep 2016, 10:35
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@fliion

True, true, you are right. Just used to give myself and my experience as an example, assuming that there are a lot of people like me.You, on the other hand, have the right to criticize me. Also, a language barrier makes me use the word "I" more than it's needed.

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Old 18th Sep 2016, 11:02
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Nikita, for someone that talks about the future you seem to be stuck in the past. How long since you were fired? Perhaps you should "chalk this up to experience" and move on.

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Old 18th Sep 2016, 11:17
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Brace for the following 5 pages of this thread being about Nikita vs everyone...

Any other good rumours on the chopper's stay so far?
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Old 18th Sep 2016, 11:29
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Brace for the following 5 pages of this thread being about Nikita vs everyone...
Hahahah No, no, I've learned my lesson here.
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Old 18th Sep 2016, 17:42
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F$&@ing Ch$&st

Let the poor girl vent, remember we all work or have worked in this place and every damn one of you knows how awful it can be. If this is her form of venting, let it be.
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Old 18th Sep 2016, 18:27
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Wasta will stop winning when the perceived loss of face for any deficiencies or shortcomings will become too uncomfortable to bear. I am sure Shiekh Mo does not and will not suffer fools and especially so, if the continued success of what is arguably Dubai's most iconic company is at stake.

After watching the Cambridge Business School interview with CM, I personally thought it was rather telling when he remarked that it is difficult to 'create a winning team from existing management'. There were noticeable management reshuffles at Malaysian and also Aer Lingus, which leads to a potentially rather interesting twist to developments. HD departed Aer Lingus in 2010 which was was during the early part of CM's tenure at Aer Lingus. Coincidence perhaps but I am led to believe otherwise.

If CM has been given a mandate to fulfil a role which is similar to those held previously, then I hope he is given the ability to introduce change where it is needed. It is rather worrying if the speculation is true that the company is performing relatively poorly in financial terms, when oil is struggling to punch above $50. We may be filling the economy cabin on many routes but that comes at a cost and that is diminishing yields. Maybe a period of consolidation and restructuring is needed. There is a finite number of people wishing to travel on our flights and peak holiday season aside, I think we may be close to this number on some routes, thanks to over capacity on our part and fierce competition from others.

As one of our ex Malaysian colleagues said to me in reference to CM 'Expect the unexpected.'
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Old 18th Sep 2016, 20:21
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It's system of punishments turning against itself. Endless circle of evil. A snake eating its own tail. Interesting times ahead. That's my only interest in EK. Whoever resolves EK's issues should be given the Nobel peace prize.. EK is unique case in history of mankind due to its unique multiculturalism and size. The world under the microscope. I actually want EK to survive, it means some hope for mankind.

Regarding my venting ... it's also unique and trumatic experience to find yourself in the middle of the black hole of humanity's madness. But it is also enlightening. Whole system turning against one harmless person instead turning to empathy is the essence of humanity's madness. I am not hiding that my blog was my therapy.
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 10:00
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ER 100% agree, refer you to post 140
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 10:23
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Where is STC anyway? EK started to nickle and dime and passengers are wondering what is happening.
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 16:43
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Originally Posted by notapilot15
Where is STC anyway? EK started to nickle and dime and passengers are wondering what is happening.
A Google for "STC speaking" reveals LHR under 2 weeks ago:

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/emirates-boss-gds-systems-are-not-fit-for-purpose-6661
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Old 19th Sep 2016, 19:08
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Originally Posted by DCS99
A Google for "STC speaking" reveals LHR under 2 weeks ago:

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/e...r-purpose-6661
Well, he maybe keeping a low profile. Remember, it is he who stated that the reason for the success of Emirates is due to the management team he put together. Now, will he own up to the fact that there are "troubled waters" due to the management team he put together? "Operational Incident", yield management issues, load factors declining, fleet planning in a bit of a quandary, pilot retention, or just employee retention, etc., etc.,
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