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Old 19th Sep 2017, 16:47
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Originally Posted by exLaker View Post
Just few questions about Flyadeal;
- Do you fly on a validation as an expat or you get a Saudi license?
- How long is your training last? Are you paid only basic while in training or full pay?
- What kind of standard accommodation is provided? what the average family Apartments cost please?

Your feedback would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Ex..
1. You would obtain a Saudi License.
2. Training, Probably, 6 months.
3. You'll be paid basic salary because the remainder of your salary is productivity pay which of course you'll get per block hour flown.
4. Accommodation will probably be hotel initially. I presume at some point in the future they will find a compound.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 21:21
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Thanks Polax52 for your feedback..Are you still with SV on the 777?
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 15:58
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@Mutt, not to pilots but to FAD.



No Polax, they'll pay for 80hrs (including productivity) right from the start. And that's all even when you fly on the line, up to 80. Nothing more nothing less. They should be getting a compound in few months, probably beginning of next yr.

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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 06:46
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HR contact

Hey there.any contacts for the applications? For the pilots of course.
I fly A320 and heard that today getting licence there is easy if you have enough hours...
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 12:19
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The new package offered to SVA crews to go on loan is pretty impressive.
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Old 22nd Sep 2017, 22:35
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Yep it is. No one would go otherwise.
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Old 30th Sep 2017, 18:00
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other skippers informed just a British gig. Only for native speakers!
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 02:10
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other skippers informed just a British gig. Only for native speakers!
Native English or Native Arabic speakers?
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 06:42
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Lets think about that... 1) An only native english speaker job in the time of 2030. Not likely...

2) Only a native arabic job in a time of captain shortage... Again, not likely...

The rumour out there is only Arab Cabin crew. I doubt even that is true.
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 18:20
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you will be paid for 80h block whether you fly 80 or not, the training takes approximately 15 days which include ( 5 days basic indoc, 3 days sim , 2 days line training + 1 day line check ) this what they have offered for us. I think this is a special program since we hold GACA A320 Rating
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 11:26
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Is the salary the same if you have GACA 320 licence?
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 22:45
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Originally Posted by jimmyg View Post
Is the salary the same if you have GACA 320 licence?
Yes it’s the same
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Old 9th Oct 2017, 06:21
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There is a special deal for SVA crews to transfer to FAD for 6-12 months, their offered deal is good, especially if they are instructors. But so far I haven't seen this deal offered to direct hires.
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Old 9th Oct 2017, 08:01
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How about guys who are not GACA licensed? How long did it take for them to clear?

Would appreciate any info on the interview and sim check, heard abt it being NO FD and NO A/THRST sim check.
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Old 10th Oct 2017, 23:42
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Why would they offer it to direct hires when they have enough applications. recruitment sessions are full for the next 6 months.
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Old 16th Nov 2017, 14:31
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Insider news?

Hi,
Did anybody hear some insider news from FAD in JED and their real set-up now?
Reg. training period, foreign vs. GACA licenses, accommodation, scheduling, commuting, crew-pairings, C/C, crew atmosphere etc?
Would appreciate some news from people knowing the FAD situation, not only wannabes....!
Many thanks
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 05:15
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Hi all. Just trying to find out new info on above as the info on here is a bit outdated.
They are coming to Asia for interviews.
What is the working environment, rosters, living conditions like. Also how does the commuting work out ?
Any info would be great ?
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 14:37
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anybody with information about this gig please, someone that is actually flying there that can give us honest info.
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Old 14th Mar 2019, 16:23
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Originally Posted by italian stallion View Post
anybody with information about this gig please, someone that is actually flying there that can give us honest info.
Thanks
I am not in Flyadeal but I am in Saudi Arabia. I'll tell you what I understand:
- They are recruiting currently for the A320, presumably this will become recruitment for the B737 at some point
- They pay sar 50,000 to Captains
- They pay accommodation
- Block of 10 days off each month(how you get home, I don't know)
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 17:30
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The BAD:
no crew food including no tea/coffee onboard
80-90 hours per rotation of 20/22 days on
transport allowance insufficient for car rental costs or taxi
continuous minor defects on almost every aircraft due reactive instead of preemptive low cost maintenance
fairly low roster stability for FO and terrible roster stability for CP (so far)
long training period circa 3 months
compounds provided but out of 2, 1 is poor quality and the other 30 mins from Jeddah center
most duties 4 sectors around 9-11 hours long
A number of duties through the night finishing as late as 7am
operating to conflict zones in Abha and Jizan with no extra allowance
FAA rules and not EASA so minimum rest is 10 hours and max duty length is 13 hours for 4 sectors...too long!
Slow inefficient operation with no GPU, late marshaller, late buses, late tug, late everything....but definitely improving
no first officer taxiing, or PF to special airports Medina and Abha.
no low vis certification and until now no RNAV certification either
many different contracts so cannot advise on latest conditions

The GOOD
salary paid on time every month
A320 on order
contracted pattern of days on/off well respected
ticketing allowance and staff discount on a number of airlines.
crew planning are quite flexible with leave request or moving days around on unpublished rosters
generally speaking, the cabin and cockpit crew are a great bunch. Some cabin crew very inexperienced though
the promise of upgrade for FO although no seniority program and no upgrades performed so far

For first officers, this type of flying operation will not make you the best. You will hardly ever experience strong crosswinds, heavy rain, runway contamination or icing conditions, except the occasional CB in summer which is too easily avoided. And the pace of operations leads to sloppy habits due to flying the same routes every day. Almost zero “green operating practices” are performed. As the airline expands into newer operating environments outside domestic SA, this will lead a lot of inexperience amount crew. In my opinion, this isn’t the best environment to begin a flying career in. As for CP, your days off are respected and salary paid on time - what more can you ask for. Work like a dog for 22 days then enjoy the 121 days at home +/- annual leave if in contract!
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