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Old 14th Feb 2017, 09:49
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These Indian sweet talkers are at it again , they seemed completely incompetent to me , just another CPL holder sitting in Delhi with a website
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 20:19
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Hey guys, what's happening with Oman Air website?
I was updating my resume..and seems impossible to do anything since last Monday!
What's happening?
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 11:00
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Avoid if you want command!

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when and how did you apply ? i applied via CTC about 2 months ago but no reply as of yet except a confirmation that my application is submitted. i got about 1000 fo hrs on NG & 4000 hrs total
If you have those hrs try EK or QR first. They'll give an earlier chance at command.
I hear from a good friend there, you must transfer to wide body fleet first (based on your seniority...thats Not honoured) then return to narrow body for command. Expect minimum of 5+yrs. My friend was promised 2yrs to command by the recruitment manager during his interview to join. My friend decided to leave and is joining QR. Also he mentioned progression by seniority is not followed and promotion/recruitment manager chooses whoever he/she wants to promote or transfer to other fleets regardless of seniority.
But if your not looking at a fair chance for jet command and want to fly your pants off at 90+ hours inclusive of 7-8 nights a month, then you'll love it there!
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Old 25th Feb 2017, 05:25
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Irrespective of your TT at the time of joining, you will be waiting a minimum of 6-7 years for a chance to upgrade.
Effo rosters just released (late again) and there are some guys flying 100+ hours with max 8-9 days off. Combine that with a combination of day and night flying and we are talking some serious fatigue issues.
The seniority list is disregarded and ad hoc fleet transfer decisions are a common feature of this airline. There is a severe shortage of effoes and two captains flying together is a common occurrence now. As it stands now, there is an exodus of people and they are unable to plug the hole.
Also, expect a three year bond whether type rated or not. This is to prevent people from leaving en masse.

On the plus side Oman is a wonderful place to live if you are an outdoorsy person. Cost of living is reasonable and considering the insane amount of overtime you will be doing the take home pay is quite impressive. The locals are pleasant to deal with and you are more or less welcomed here. Management does have an open door policy and are quite a reasonable bunch.

They are phasing out DEC recruitment (as of now) and are aiming to meet their left seat requirements through internal upgrades. Nevertheless you are looking at a long wait. Also, the failure rate is quite high.

Bottom line is if you need a job this is THE place to be. If you are looking for career progression please be aware of the hidden reality here.
And be prepared to work HARD.
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 08:28
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I see they are recruiting DEC at the moment?

which fleet?
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Old 28th Nov 2017, 10:16
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Their company is ok only if it was without HR department since that is the most incompetent department in the entire company or the other way to put it - Oman Air held hostage by their own HR department. I applied and got a call from someone called jalood, who asked me for documents, after a week the same question again and then again and again and again. Finally realized they are just wasting time for the flightops. Spoke to a recruitment capt who was more sensible, understanding and confirmed the entire HR needs a reset including termination of jalood or this company will be always a hostage, but most importantly he confirmed no DEC and forget upgrades as lot of omani cadets coming in.
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Old 2nd Feb 2018, 21:14
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Oman Air

Has Jalood been fired and HR sorted out yet? Heard they looking again for those who are interested on the ERJ175.
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Old 26th Feb 2018, 08:46
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hi all, can someone share some info regarding the current situation at Omanair? They seem to be recruiting DECs on the 737. It's very hard to get first hand infos regarding pay, roster, lifestyle, fleet transfers, etc. , so any feedback will be very appreciated!
Thx
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Old 26th Feb 2018, 08:53
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Don't think they will clean up HR anytime soon. Algae stick for long! From assessment to joining expect 6-8 months process
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Old 26th Feb 2018, 20:23
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Yes, HR is a mess. A zoo. The very definition of incompetence has its sources in the deep recesses of the rank and file that infest that department.

Pay- Good. Very good. 12-14k per month depending on your flying hours. The one caveat is education. It is minimal. Also, they only pay 75% of the fees. So no matter what the tuition, you will be dipping into your pocket.
Roster- Bad. Very bad. Be prepared to work hard. Very hard. Max 8 days off month. Night flights that return back to base at 1pm. You WILL be tired.
Lifestyle- Roster and lifestyle go hand in hand. Oman is beautiful. If you get the time off, lots to do here. People are friendly.
Fleet transfers- DO NOT. I repeat. DO NOT fall for whatever they will tell you to lure you in. Company requirement is 2 years for fleet transfer. The reality is that the locals get priority. You are looking at 10-12 years before you get a shot at a fleet transfer. And that is leaning towards the optimist in me.

You come here for the job, not your career. You come here with zero aspirations. You join as a DEC 737. Expect to leave as DEC 737. Anything else is a bonus.
The money is good. The place is good. People are nice. Management is open minded (to a certain extent). But again, they will extract all they can from you.

Good luck
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Old 27th Feb 2018, 15:49
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Originally Posted by FalseGS
Yes, HR is a mess. A zoo. The very definition of incompetence has its sources in the deep recesses of the rank and file that infest that department.

Pay- Good. Very good. 12-14k per month depending on your flying hours. The one caveat is education. It is minimal. Also, they only pay 75% of the fees. So no matter what the tuition, you will be dipping into your pocket.
Roster- Bad. Very bad. Be prepared to work hard. Very hard. Max 8 days off month. Night flights that return back to base at 1pm. You WILL be tired.
Lifestyle- Roster and lifestyle go hand in hand. Oman is beautiful. If you get the time off, lots to do here. People are friendly.
Fleet transfers- DO NOT. I repeat. DO NOT fall for whatever they will tell you to lure you in. Company requirement is 2 years for fleet transfer. The reality is that the locals get priority. You are looking at 10-12 years before you get a shot at a fleet transfer. And that is leaning towards the optimist in me.

You come here for the job, not your career. You come here with zero aspirations. You join as a DEC 737. Expect to leave as DEC 737. Anything else is a bonus.
The money is good. The place is good. People are nice. Management is open minded (to a certain extent). But again, they will extract all they can from you.

Good luck
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Everything written above is reality
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 23:15
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Hi guys,just wondering if any one did B737 F/O interview with Oman Air lately,and if you could share some sim profile and interview type questions.
got an interview next month

thank you in advance
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Old 25th Mar 2018, 07:18
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Salary

Hi,

Can anyone give the details of salary for a 737 capt. What is asked in the interview. How is the roster like and how many off do we get in a month?

Regards
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Old 24th Jun 2018, 03:34
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Health Exam Oman Air

Hey guys,

I would like to know if there is anyone who could tell me about the 1st class medical exam specifically the exam related to color blind test, I've heard that in Oman Air you pass through Ishihara test (numbers placards with colored small balls). I would like to know what is the limit there in case of difficulty to identify some placards and if there is any secondary test around there.

I'm asking because where I work if you can identify all colors separately it is fine, and these kind of tests you do there only after you have signed up for the job.

Thank you all.
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Old 5th Jul 2018, 07:37
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Dont be too quick to sell your soul and jump in!
Look around and see the direction of the wind!!..........
When you see even the Locals are leaving, that should tell you something.
18 Omani and 30 Expat first officers, and 3 Omani and 7 Expat Captains have handed in their resignations,...effective 1st September.
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Old 19th Nov 2018, 15:30
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Question Oman Air

Hi.

Does anybody knows what terms and conditions are offering for first officers in Oman Air, salary, houisng, duty hours, school allowance and so on.
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Old 27th Nov 2018, 06:40
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Hi,

How are things for 737 DEC's at the moment?

Specifically looking for info on rosters, pay, schooling etc.

Many Thanks

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Old 9th Dec 2018, 04:37
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Oman air

Dear gents

I've been with Oman air as direct company for the last 9 years, and truly it's a progressive company, pay is great and when I say great I mean it, Omanis are very approachable and very friendly, the country is open for all ,
police are no joke behave your driving,
recently we had monthly Pilot forum with management and things have lighten up for the best, we have a new planning manager was been recruited to overhaul the entire planning roster system.
bulk of the fleet B737 various from dash 9 to max.
10 A330 and 10 787.
A350 on horizon.
total target 70 aircrafts by 2022
command upgrade in full swing
we have a policy of 50/50 for fleet transfer ie between Omanis versus expatriates fair system.
Insurance full coverage
loss of income needs improving
housing remains 1950 US dollars per month
Rental prices for villa 1600-2200 according to your choice and location
Single estimate living cost 1200 US dollar per Month.
family with 2 kids 1700 per month
overall it's one of the best in the Gulf.
overall life style I give it 7 out of 10.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 04:19
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Dear Propaganda gent, They require more than a planning manager or forum to fix their problems! whoever speaks in these forums is a troublemaker and shown way out. Try any news outlet in oman notice the anti-expat sentiment. The package does not mention when they cancel your leaves or you do mostly night flights as an expat. I won't even bother getting into 50/50 upgrade 'we are too old for this gent'!

Originally Posted by Venom2002
Dear gents

I've been with Oman air as direct company for the last 9 years, and truly it's a progressive company, pay is great and when I say great I mean it, Omanis are very approachable and very friendly, the country is open for all ,
police are no joke behave your driving,
recently we had monthly Pilot forum with management and things have lighten up for the best, we have a new planning manager was been recruited to overhaul the entire planning roster system.
bulk of the fleet B737 various from dash 9 to max.
10 A330 and 10 787.
A350 on horizon.
total target 70 aircrafts by 2022
command upgrade in full swing
we have a policy of 50/50 for fleet transfer ie between Omanis versus expatriates fair system.
Insurance full coverage
loss of income needs improving
housing remains 1950 US dollars per month
Rental prices for villa 1600-2200 according to your choice and location
Single estimate living cost 1200 US dollar per Month.
family with 2 kids 1700 per month
overall it's one of the best in the Gulf.
overall life style I give it 7 out of 10.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 07:53
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Five on one off week after week.
Max 8 days off a month. Seems reasonable at first but the kind of brutal rosters you’ll be flying begs for more time off.
Day night switches with zero regard to fatigue. I can’t even recall the number of times I have turned to my right and had my fatigued FO off in dreamland.
Blatant threats if you use the word fatigue.
According to management, there is no fatigue in Oman Air.
Pretty much all your duties are carried out with minimum rest. And that’s the bare minimum as per global standards.
Regressive leave planning.
12 hour duty days with 5 hour flight pay. The monthly ratio of flight to duty hours is 1:2. You spend a lot of time sitting on the ground on company’s time getting paid nothing.
Severe shortage of pilots. Scraping at the bottom of the barrel scrounging for pilots.
They’re talking about fleet expansion which has no bearing on the bulk of expats hired on the 737 fleet. The hardest working and most abused bunch of pilots in the company don’t care about fleet expansion. They just want manageable rosters. Been here close to a decade and it’s the worst I have seen since I joined here, coincidentally when the new planning manager has joined.
The money. Yes. It’s great. Meet new joiners who love the money rolling in. See them after a year and they can’t wait to get out. Money doesn’t buy you health and sleep. Two year bond on type rated pilots. Gee, I wonder why.
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