Emirates. Not that bad, surely?
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Why not apply anyway, do the interview and bring your fiancé here for a few days. If she doesn't like it, don't come. Try though to at least speak with a few already here, some single, married, kids etc then, if you're offered the job, decide from there.
Despite what Talparc says, the vast majority of ex Ryanair guys and girls stay. You'll work hard but in a different way to loco short haul. Dubai isn't for everyone but it suits many. Huge variation in destinations and duration of flights with generally good bunch of people. There is a lot of negativity on these forums, some frustrations and advice of which is justified. However, the majority of pilots are generally content. Not super enthusiastic or highly motivated, but content. Get away from PPRune, enjoy a social life away from flying, embrace opportunities and activities unrelated to EK and you can have a good life.
It's all about what you make of it and your long term goals. 10 years is not an unrealistic time frame to start with. Good luck!
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Despite what Talparc says, the vast majority of ex Ryanair guys and girls stay. You'll work hard but in a different way to loco short haul. Dubai isn't for everyone but it suits many. Huge variation in destinations and duration of flights with generally good bunch of people. There is a lot of negativity on these forums, some frustrations and advice of which is justified. However, the majority of pilots are generally content. Not super enthusiastic or highly motivated, but content. Get away from PPRune, enjoy a social life away from flying, embrace opportunities and activities unrelated to EK and you can have a good life.
It's all about what you make of it and your long term goals. 10 years is not an unrealistic time frame to start with. Good luck!
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I’m considering a similar move, but from a cargo operator.
I think it’s just the sad state of our industry that conditions are changing (degrading) in response to the market. Without the protection of unions, EK is probably changing quicker than other big players, except maybe the US, but everyone is heading in that general direction. Have a bunch of UK based friends at BA and Virgin who aren’t exactly deliriously happy atm.
I regard it as a personal decision based on your own attitude to some of the undoubted challenges, and arguably most importantly how you judge your fiancé/family are able to cope with these challenges for the next 5+ years. I’m ME based currently and have no doubts that the expat lifestyle doesn’t suit everyone.
Good luck if you decide to apply
I think it’s just the sad state of our industry that conditions are changing (degrading) in response to the market. Without the protection of unions, EK is probably changing quicker than other big players, except maybe the US, but everyone is heading in that general direction. Have a bunch of UK based friends at BA and Virgin who aren’t exactly deliriously happy atm.
I regard it as a personal decision based on your own attitude to some of the undoubted challenges, and arguably most importantly how you judge your fiancé/family are able to cope with these challenges for the next 5+ years. I’m ME based currently and have no doubts that the expat lifestyle doesn’t suit everyone.
Good luck if you decide to apply
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My expectation would be to get some wide body experience and then maybe an upgrade ~5-6 years thereafter? Please feel free to rain on my parade or correct my Utopian expectations accordingly.
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EK and Dubai is what you make of it. So if you decide to go and live in the company villa, surrounded by your bitter colleagues 24/7, read PPRuNe all day and then whinge about it in the flight deck, wife on facebook club etc, then YES you are going to be miserable here. Or... you distance yourself from all of that, live somewhere nice (not in EK accommodation), make the most of what Dubai has to offer, have a good set of friends who have similar aspirations to yourself etc, go to work, have a good time, go home and leave it at that.... then you will enjoy it here.
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Burying your head in the sand doesn't change the 100% inflation or new sin tax as they call it, or the fact we haven't had a payrise in the last 6 years. Nor does it change the near catastrophic events happening on a monthly rate now. The root cause is mickey mouse treatment intent on diminishing the pilot group from every direction. Middle management only shrug their shoulders and collect their fat little paycheck. Have you called sick and lost a day off yet? How about a shared rest day between night flights? Taken leave and worked the same monthly hours?
Experience levels on the line have fallen off a cliff, don't want to detail the 1km flare, descending in a block climb, near stall speeds with VS climbs or the unstable alerts ... all in one month! Go ahead and pat yourself on the back while all the experienced guys rush for the door so you can get command earlier
I wouldn't climb in a taxi with a guy driving 14 hours, would you?! I know, lets demote training to a pay to play game! Its becoming a freak show, I'm afraid to watch the news ...
Experience levels on the line have fallen off a cliff, don't want to detail the 1km flare, descending in a block climb, near stall speeds with VS climbs or the unstable alerts ... all in one month! Go ahead and pat yourself on the back while all the experienced guys rush for the door so you can get command earlier
I wouldn't climb in a taxi with a guy driving 14 hours, would you?! I know, lets demote training to a pay to play game! Its becoming a freak show, I'm afraid to watch the news ...
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Burying your head in the sand doesn't change the 100% inflation or new sin tax as they call it, or the fact we haven't had a payrise in the last 6 years. Nor does it change the near catastrophic events happening on a monthly rate now. The root cause is mickey mouse treatment intent on diminishing the pilot group from every direction. Middle management only shrug their shoulders and collect their fat little paycheck. Have you called sick and lost a day off yet? How about a shared rest day between night flights? Taken leave and worked the same monthly hours?
Experience levels on the line have fallen off a cliff, don't want to detail the 1km flare, descending in a block climb, near stall speeds with VS climbs or the unstable alerts ... all in one month! Go ahead and pat yourself on the back while all the experienced guys rush for the door so you can get command earlier I wouldn't climb in a taxi with a guy driving 14 hours, would you?! I know, lets demote training to a pay to play game! Its becoming a freak show, I'm afraid to watch the news ...
Experience levels on the line have fallen off a cliff, don't want to detail the 1km flare, descending in a block climb, near stall speeds with VS climbs or the unstable alerts ... all in one month! Go ahead and pat yourself on the back while all the experienced guys rush for the door so you can get command earlier
I wouldn't climb in a taxi with a guy driving 14 hours, would you?! I know, lets demote training to a pay to play game! Its becoming a freak show, I'm afraid to watch the news ...Join Date: Mar 2003
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Yep, I feel your pain Bob, see variations of that on a weekly basis. Yes there are still some great relatively inexperienced operators, but they are the minority. That simply never used to be the case
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Been holding my tongue here for too long but feel like I am going to explode. So I wanted to warn young new players away from looking at EK as a career choice.
What I wanted to warn people of is the complete miss alignment between the headline sales pitch that is put to you and the reality of the job in terms of what to expect for coverage of Education, Medical and Accomodation.
There are definitions and exclusion, there are the fine details etc and sure you can be reasonably expected to read and expect them to be complied with.
What is not on the sales broacher is the fact that things can change at a moments notice away form the terms you signed up for under your contract, and there is not thing 1 you can do about it.
In the last 12 months, there have been several signification changes for example.
1. Commands are now limited by age. So if you joined young looking for a command after the generally discussed experience levels. Forget it... they just moved the goal posts and you are screwed.
2. They capped the medical claim per consultation. So a general consultation is capped with complete disregard to the time and expertise involved in the consultation. So for example a 5 minute GP consultation has the same cap as a 60 minute session with a Psychiatrist. Never mind that one session takes 5 minuets and one takes 60 and is specialised. If they are not applying medical services on top of the procedure, then the service is capped at a rate that covers nothing. Crazy... but means that you can be out of pocket for huge bucks if you are unlucky enough to require consultations about the low cap.
3. The ability to opt out of the accomodation scheme now means that if you have any commitment to the region you will also not have the ability to define the living conditions you experience. Not living in company accomodation or at least having the flexibility to chose is no longer an option. This is very signification if you have plans to live outside the hive.
4. Cost of living in DXB. Super hard to anticipate before you arrive, but without putting too finer point on it... EVERYTHING costs WAY more than you could expect. From processing fees for government services, groceries, access to services of any professional nature, not to mention the things that are not covered by Education, Medical, and Allowance that you expected would be covered. EVERYTHING cost more and is going up at amazing rates... super hard to anticipate just how out of pocket you will be.
5. Professionally. Not going to say a lot here, but lets just say that the culture of fear that infests the place is taking a serious toll on all those involved. There is a tremendous amount of potential for this place to be a great place to work. Currently it is far from this...
What I wanted to warn people of is the complete miss alignment between the headline sales pitch that is put to you and the reality of the job in terms of what to expect for coverage of Education, Medical and Accomodation.
There are definitions and exclusion, there are the fine details etc and sure you can be reasonably expected to read and expect them to be complied with.
What is not on the sales broacher is the fact that things can change at a moments notice away form the terms you signed up for under your contract, and there is not thing 1 you can do about it.
In the last 12 months, there have been several signification changes for example.
1. Commands are now limited by age. So if you joined young looking for a command after the generally discussed experience levels. Forget it... they just moved the goal posts and you are screwed.
2. They capped the medical claim per consultation. So a general consultation is capped with complete disregard to the time and expertise involved in the consultation. So for example a 5 minute GP consultation has the same cap as a 60 minute session with a Psychiatrist. Never mind that one session takes 5 minuets and one takes 60 and is specialised. If they are not applying medical services on top of the procedure, then the service is capped at a rate that covers nothing. Crazy... but means that you can be out of pocket for huge bucks if you are unlucky enough to require consultations about the low cap.
3. The ability to opt out of the accomodation scheme now means that if you have any commitment to the region you will also not have the ability to define the living conditions you experience. Not living in company accomodation or at least having the flexibility to chose is no longer an option. This is very signification if you have plans to live outside the hive.
4. Cost of living in DXB. Super hard to anticipate before you arrive, but without putting too finer point on it... EVERYTHING costs WAY more than you could expect. From processing fees for government services, groceries, access to services of any professional nature, not to mention the things that are not covered by Education, Medical, and Allowance that you expected would be covered. EVERYTHING cost more and is going up at amazing rates... super hard to anticipate just how out of pocket you will be.
5. Professionally. Not going to say a lot here, but lets just say that the culture of fear that infests the place is taking a serious toll on all those involved. There is a tremendous amount of potential for this place to be a great place to work. Currently it is far from this...
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hi AIMINGHIGH123
I like to try to answer your question and i guess the answer that poeple shop at waitrose instead of carefour might not the answer. as well i dont want to drive u away or invite u to join the club. rather i try to show u my montly reality and i hope those people who want to play it negative can sit on there hands for a moment or what i really would appreciate is to contribute or correct my number so that we get a little heads up on the reality done here.
It is difficult to say what the personal needs are, for e.g. i spend a lot in the internet costs may be more than others would ever do, but i tried to give u ranges of prices.
i have added up some numbers:
My household is 2 Adults + 1 Baby and 1 car
Prices in AED = €0,23 / numbers are given per month
Car insurance 166 – 250
No Road tax – but u have certain tollroads for e.g. sheik zyaed road which is the most used on – and yes u can avoidit but not always
4 AED per gate between Marina a airportthere are 4 = 16AED and per month on a daily basis 480 AED which reduces to areal number of approx. 150AED amonth
Fuel 400
Mobile Phone 200(reasonable data andvoice package) per person
Internet home and TV 250(8mbit) Dataonly – 700(100mbit plus medium TV)
IPTV to get your favourite channelsanother 25 (and then 8mbit is by far not enough)
Household insurance 20-50
Water ELEC min 5%of your rent average pay1100
Air condition 1500 – 3000 depending onthe size of your Flat/Villa
Medical additional insurance 400 perperson
Supermarket 2000 big monthly
Small daily 800
If u decide to move than I guarantee uwill have a loan
Car 100000 - payback time 48 month 2290 / Payback 60 month – 1870
U will have an additional loan to get settled for another 50000 personal loan
Max48 month 1180
In company accommodation u face min 7500– max 8900 (including the Loan)
Uwill not pay for A/C – ELEC upto 32000/Y in consumption (exceedance will be deducted)
Outside (u will receive an additional 14000 to your income as accom allowance)
min 7500+1500 AC +1100 ELEC =10100 ///// MAX 8900 + 3000 AC + 1500ELEC =13500
Plus the rent which ranges from 1 bedroom 60000/y to 3bed room 200000/y
Why u will have a loan for car and getting settled
Additional company accommodation or not if u get a baby, and considering that u will fairly often not at home and also your parants will not be around – your wife will be looking into getting some help at home
Cleaning maid 25/hr = avg 4h/week = avg16/month=== 400
Live in Maid 1000 – 2500 a month plus approx.10000 for her visa once plus 500-800/y for her medical insurance
Schooling fees so far I heard are good for an average school and I agree with most of them that is for shure not what u want for your kid so expect there a hugh top up per month. Most of the FOs I speak with that it is becoming tight from the moment u need nursery or school, given the fact that schooling only starts at the age of four, where your kid is already one year in the system.
Realty is that u have a cargo allowance which means your 400kg joining fly for free but aren’t handled for free. The Cargo company charges u around 1000€
If u have more cargo to avoid the costs to buy your furniture it goes to the roof (heard people spent upto 8000€)
The supermarket costs do not include the recent price increases for most of the goods by 50% neither does it for the 5%VAT which is coming 1st JAN. to say it again it does not matter at which Supermarkt u make your purchase, yes are big differences named by the price, but sometimes to get to next cheaper on is a long drive. Nevertheless buying "organic" or lots of fruits is going to be very pricey in the long run. we talk here about times 2 up to somewhere times 5 - thats real.
From your montly salary company deducts min 5% for your PF and all not covered or approved medical treatments – in case of hospitalisation there are deductibles but I cannot answer this question,there are other experts out here. Fact is these deductibles are not mentioned in the road shows.
I hope that others will contribute to this post as I like to give u real numbers, to what u will expect in matters of possible savings.
all the best for your deceison
I like to try to answer your question and i guess the answer that poeple shop at waitrose instead of carefour might not the answer. as well i dont want to drive u away or invite u to join the club. rather i try to show u my montly reality and i hope those people who want to play it negative can sit on there hands for a moment or what i really would appreciate is to contribute or correct my number so that we get a little heads up on the reality done here.
It is difficult to say what the personal needs are, for e.g. i spend a lot in the internet costs may be more than others would ever do, but i tried to give u ranges of prices.
i have added up some numbers:
My household is 2 Adults + 1 Baby and 1 car
Prices in AED = €0,23 / numbers are given per month
Car insurance 166 – 250
No Road tax – but u have certain tollroads for e.g. sheik zyaed road which is the most used on – and yes u can avoidit but not always
4 AED per gate between Marina a airportthere are 4 = 16AED and per month on a daily basis 480 AED which reduces to areal number of approx. 150AED amonth
Fuel 400
Mobile Phone 200(reasonable data andvoice package) per person
Internet home and TV 250(8mbit) Dataonly – 700(100mbit plus medium TV)
IPTV to get your favourite channelsanother 25 (and then 8mbit is by far not enough)
Household insurance 20-50
Water ELEC min 5%of your rent average pay1100
Air condition 1500 – 3000 depending onthe size of your Flat/Villa
Medical additional insurance 400 perperson
Supermarket 2000 big monthly
Small daily 800
If u decide to move than I guarantee uwill have a loan
Car 100000 - payback time 48 month 2290 / Payback 60 month – 1870
U will have an additional loan to get settled for another 50000 personal loan
Max48 month 1180
In company accommodation u face min 7500– max 8900 (including the Loan)
Uwill not pay for A/C – ELEC upto 32000/Y in consumption (exceedance will be deducted)
Outside (u will receive an additional 14000 to your income as accom allowance)
min 7500+1500 AC +1100 ELEC =10100 ///// MAX 8900 + 3000 AC + 1500ELEC =13500
Plus the rent which ranges from 1 bedroom 60000/y to 3bed room 200000/y
Why u will have a loan for car and getting settled
Additional company accommodation or not if u get a baby, and considering that u will fairly often not at home and also your parants will not be around – your wife will be looking into getting some help at home
Cleaning maid 25/hr = avg 4h/week = avg16/month=== 400
Live in Maid 1000 – 2500 a month plus approx.10000 for her visa once plus 500-800/y for her medical insurance
Schooling fees so far I heard are good for an average school and I agree with most of them that is for shure not what u want for your kid so expect there a hugh top up per month. Most of the FOs I speak with that it is becoming tight from the moment u need nursery or school, given the fact that schooling only starts at the age of four, where your kid is already one year in the system.
Realty is that u have a cargo allowance which means your 400kg joining fly for free but aren’t handled for free. The Cargo company charges u around 1000€
If u have more cargo to avoid the costs to buy your furniture it goes to the roof (heard people spent upto 8000€)
The supermarket costs do not include the recent price increases for most of the goods by 50% neither does it for the 5%VAT which is coming 1st JAN. to say it again it does not matter at which Supermarkt u make your purchase, yes are big differences named by the price, but sometimes to get to next cheaper on is a long drive. Nevertheless buying "organic" or lots of fruits is going to be very pricey in the long run. we talk here about times 2 up to somewhere times 5 - thats real.
From your montly salary company deducts min 5% for your PF and all not covered or approved medical treatments – in case of hospitalisation there are deductibles but I cannot answer this question,there are other experts out here. Fact is these deductibles are not mentioned in the road shows.
I hope that others will contribute to this post as I like to give u real numbers, to what u will expect in matters of possible savings.
all the best for your deceison
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I like to thank airdancer,
as he says lives are very different here and it depends strongly on the livestyle u set.
i end up with 5000 -7000 a month and i have to say its not the car (its long paid of)
i my case a wife, a kid and the fact that both of us want the have a nice place to stay, sop yes we do up our house and invest a good part of my salary in the lifestyle here and now. But again it is depending on the individual and i strongly believe that airdancers number and mine give a good picture where u will be in terms of saving. and i save too not as much as airdancer, just for the given fact but i do and as a captain u will do easy a good saving per month.
Fact is also prices are increasing and more costs will be dragged down to us. As for now with as average lifestyle (we are not rich) u will build up money for later but the amount u can save will decrease over the time for a lot of factors. On the other hand thats not any different to any other place in the world as for now.
#AIMINGHIGH123
therefore moneywise the deceision is fairly easy, if u come make shure u both like it in the long term. I personaly sometimes like it, sometimes don't care and to be honest i hate it. Nothing unnatural it is not my home country where are a lot of things i miss which is more about what i can do with a limited time of, but is a different story and again very very individual.
my personal advice to u is to make shure u and especially your wife can live at a place where the laws are a very expandable and very much depending on your passport and origin are in interpretation. you have to make shure that u can accept a certain amount of unfairness, being not able to influence it, in the long run.
as he says lives are very different here and it depends strongly on the livestyle u set.
i end up with 5000 -7000 a month and i have to say its not the car (its long paid of)
i my case a wife, a kid and the fact that both of us want the have a nice place to stay, sop yes we do up our house and invest a good part of my salary in the lifestyle here and now. But again it is depending on the individual and i strongly believe that airdancers number and mine give a good picture where u will be in terms of saving. and i save too not as much as airdancer, just for the given fact but i do and as a captain u will do easy a good saving per month.
Fact is also prices are increasing and more costs will be dragged down to us. As for now with as average lifestyle (we are not rich) u will build up money for later but the amount u can save will decrease over the time for a lot of factors. On the other hand thats not any different to any other place in the world as for now.
#AIMINGHIGH123
therefore moneywise the deceision is fairly easy, if u come make shure u both like it in the long term. I personaly sometimes like it, sometimes don't care and to be honest i hate it. Nothing unnatural it is not my home country where are a lot of things i miss which is more about what i can do with a limited time of, but is a different story and again very very individual.
my personal advice to u is to make shure u and especially your wife can live at a place where the laws are a very expandable and very much depending on your passport and origin are in interpretation. you have to make shure that u can accept a certain amount of unfairness, being not able to influence it, in the long run.
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Ok let's be honest:
I live in company accommodation. So this is what I pay:
625 AED for internet/tv/tel from etisalat(This is the cheapest option with internet boost)
I shop once a month at carrefour and buy most of my stuff on offer. Roughly 800 AED per trip.
I eat out once a week or visit a cinema to keep the missus happy. Let's say around 500 AED.
We both have a phone bill which comes roughly at a 1000 AED for both. She has a simple one, I got the expensive one.
I have no maid, I don't hire cleaners.
I have a car but did not take a loan from EK. Very simple ford fiesta and pay 1625 per year so let's say 135 AED per month.
I don't drive it only that once a month as I'm situated very nicely close to the metro. Make it 200 AED per month for fuel which is very drastic.
My wife uses the metro a lot (gold card) but doesn't go over 200 AED per month.
Most of my shopping is done overseas with EK money. I do freighter a lot so that means we get nice allowances (zaragoza, hmmmmm).
I have never gone over my elec/ac usage. We have the AC on in all rooms 24/7 but do turn off the lights of course.
So that's 3525 per month spending on necessities. I put in my 5% each month meaning I end up with (80h per month) 28000 AED. Take 3500 away, 24500 AED.
Guess what. I send 20k home easily and keep around 2-5k AED in my bank for emergencies.
It's really not hard if you act like you were acting before coming to dubai. Unfortunately people take loans to buy big fancy cars, Do up the house or garden and take several maids. Yes I don't have kids and not planning to. I'm here to make money, not to build a family.
I live in company accommodation. So this is what I pay:
625 AED for internet/tv/tel from etisalat(This is the cheapest option with internet boost)
I shop once a month at carrefour and buy most of my stuff on offer. Roughly 800 AED per trip.
I eat out once a week or visit a cinema to keep the missus happy. Let's say around 500 AED.
We both have a phone bill which comes roughly at a 1000 AED for both. She has a simple one, I got the expensive one.
I have no maid, I don't hire cleaners.
I have a car but did not take a loan from EK. Very simple ford fiesta and pay 1625 per year so let's say 135 AED per month.
I don't drive it only that once a month as I'm situated very nicely close to the metro. Make it 200 AED per month for fuel which is very drastic.
My wife uses the metro a lot (gold card) but doesn't go over 200 AED per month.
Most of my shopping is done overseas with EK money. I do freighter a lot so that means we get nice allowances (zaragoza, hmmmmm).
I have never gone over my elec/ac usage. We have the AC on in all rooms 24/7 but do turn off the lights of course.
So that's 3525 per month spending on necessities. I put in my 5% each month meaning I end up with (80h per month) 28000 AED. Take 3500 away, 24500 AED.
Guess what. I send 20k home easily and keep around 2-5k AED in my bank for emergencies.
It's really not hard if you act like you were acting before coming to dubai. Unfortunately people take loans to buy big fancy cars, Do up the house or garden and take several maids. Yes I don't have kids and not planning to. I'm here to make money, not to build a family.
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The cost of living is, within certain limits, what you choose to make it. You can live simply and save or you can get all the fancy toys and the loans that come with them and not save.
But, if you are coming just for money I suggest that you may well be very unhappy, very quickly. It is vital that you, and any accompanying family members, know that there is a good chance of you being happy in Dubai before uprooting your existing lifestyle.
But, if you are coming just for money I suggest that you may well be very unhappy, very quickly. It is vital that you, and any accompanying family members, know that there is a good chance of you being happy in Dubai before uprooting your existing lifestyle.
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Go onto https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living Use other sites too.
Have a look at what your life will cost. If you go out a beer costs twice as much as Covent Garden but maybe you don't drink. The shocker for me is telecom, tv and entertainment. There are hidden costs to think about too. For instance I spend 60k every year shuttling family between the UK and UAE but have older kids and family that need a hand. Beware of some of the posters on here, they jump from left to right seat, 2 to 20 years seniority and troll continually in their posts. Do your own homework dispassionately and you will be fine. Just to add, Dubai is a great city when all is going well but when it goes badly, cross the wrong person; it can turn into a ball of chalk really quickly.
Have a look at what your life will cost. If you go out a beer costs twice as much as Covent Garden but maybe you don't drink. The shocker for me is telecom, tv and entertainment. There are hidden costs to think about too. For instance I spend 60k every year shuttling family between the UK and UAE but have older kids and family that need a hand. Beware of some of the posters on here, they jump from left to right seat, 2 to 20 years seniority and troll continually in their posts. Do your own homework dispassionately and you will be fine. Just to add, Dubai is a great city when all is going well but when it goes badly, cross the wrong person; it can turn into a ball of chalk really quickly.
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That is less than 10USD per day! (33dh) for the two of you or 5 USD per day each.
How exactly do you guys live on the cost of cup of coffee each day.
I suspect your figures might be innacurate
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Wife, no kids, only my salary. Company accommo, one car from the EK car loan. No other debts in Dubai, small CC bill from home and a mortgage that is serviced by our tenants.
We choose very carefully where we eat out and go to the pub, otherwise you can pay double central London prices as a bare minimum. Shop around and you can go a bit cheaper. Depends what you're looking for. Beer & wine usually bought downroute. Several holidays/mini-breaks per year. Still save £2k/month. Different story here with children, especially as an FO. We could probably save more but don't want to be miserable!
Best tip: supermarket shop wisely in Dubai. Ignore Spinneys & Waitrose (think Harrods food hall on an Aldi budget), consider Kibsons online delivery. Choithrams, Carrefour, Union Co-op & Lulu are relatively reasonable.
We choose very carefully where we eat out and go to the pub, otherwise you can pay double central London prices as a bare minimum. Shop around and you can go a bit cheaper. Depends what you're looking for. Beer & wine usually bought downroute. Several holidays/mini-breaks per year. Still save £2k/month. Different story here with children, especially as an FO. We could probably save more but don't want to be miserable!
Best tip: supermarket shop wisely in Dubai. Ignore Spinneys & Waitrose (think Harrods food hall on an Aldi budget), consider Kibsons online delivery. Choithrams, Carrefour, Union Co-op & Lulu are relatively reasonable.
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Good lord Airdancer. Well done...buying clothes and furniture and christmas presents and pretty much everything else on Emirates allowances. That's incredible.
I spend more on porn than you do on monthly essentials.
I spend more on porn than you do on monthly essentials.