EK flight Ops Who is in Charge?
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EK flight Ops Who is in Charge?
So the time has come and gone for the DSVP to leave. It has been announced that he has a new job but he still doesn't seem to have disappeared.
As I understood it there were 2 possible replacements and promoting his deputy would have made the most sense and would IMHO be a sound appointment. A man of sharp intellect that is prepared to show leadership rather than just manage his own career....I hope.
Of course there would be a few snags for those further up the greasy pole as they might actually get told what was happening at the coal face with the filter removed. But as they say knowledge is power and were I in senior management I would want to be given sound information, even if it was uncomfortable, rather than keep getting shoved into square corners because the minions won't raise their heads above the parapet to point out the issues.
If they don't make the change what does that say about senior management's perception of either the candidates' capabilities or their desire to be told the truth rather than drink the political cool aid? Anyway you cut it, from the outside it appears to show indecisiveness and weaknesses coupled to poor succession management. All utterly avoidable.
As I understood it there were 2 possible replacements and promoting his deputy would have made the most sense and would IMHO be a sound appointment. A man of sharp intellect that is prepared to show leadership rather than just manage his own career....I hope.
Of course there would be a few snags for those further up the greasy pole as they might actually get told what was happening at the coal face with the filter removed. But as they say knowledge is power and were I in senior management I would want to be given sound information, even if it was uncomfortable, rather than keep getting shoved into square corners because the minions won't raise their heads above the parapet to point out the issues.
If they don't make the change what does that say about senior management's perception of either the candidates' capabilities or their desire to be told the truth rather than drink the political cool aid? Anyway you cut it, from the outside it appears to show indecisiveness and weaknesses coupled to poor succession management. All utterly avoidable.
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Same as always...AAR
They just need a new sock puppet to rubber stamp directives and burn at the stake for the eventual train wreck. TCAS just ducked out of the way for the next pension padding, 8th floor sitting, flight bag skimming, wine crate furniture selling, annex 2 FTL ing, vacation credit stealing, overtime swiping, FTL fiddling, fatigue inducing sell out to take a bullet. Did I miss something?
Maybe raise Ed from the dead!
They just need a new sock puppet to rubber stamp directives and burn at the stake for the eventual train wreck. TCAS just ducked out of the way for the next pension padding, 8th floor sitting, flight bag skimming, wine crate furniture selling, annex 2 FTL ing, vacation credit stealing, overtime swiping, FTL fiddling, fatigue inducing sell out to take a bullet. Did I miss something?
Maybe raise Ed from the dead!
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Absolutely, and i sustain costneutrals point without any sarcasm, cynicism, agenda or anything else.
Honestly, no one cares anymore.
Press your monthly 2 because there is the same effect further up -> no one cares
Honestly, no one cares anymore.
Press your monthly 2 because there is the same effect further up -> no one cares
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Without wishing to appear facetious, perhaps they're applying the same principle to this position as they do for new pursers. 6 months on the job 'training' without the new pay but all of the responsibility. That's six months DSVP salary that can be saved, not, I'd imagine, an insignificant amount. As for the 'contestants' in the race, JA would be the sensible choice. HAH is a figure head smoothing over the locals talking politics while drinking copious amounts of coffee in the Majlis. His current role in training has been invisible and jumping 2 grades, whilst acceptable within the HR policy, would be an unlikely move. JA can get to grips with the mess he's inherited and with 5 years or so from retirement, DSVP would work well for him. HAH can bide his time, follow closely with JA then perhaps take over himself for the last 4-5 years, assisting with the Emiratisation policy!
As already alluded to on another thread, I agree with you. It's nothing short of disgraceful. I wonder if the same will the same occur when STC retires?
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Without wishing to appear facetious, perhaps they're applying the same principle to this position as they do for new pursers. 6 months on the job 'training' without the new pay but all of the responsibility. That's six months DSVP salary that can be saved, not, I'd imagine, an insignificant amount. As for the 'contestants' in the race, JA would be the sensible choice. HAH is a figure head smoothing over the locals talking politics while drinking copious amounts of coffee in the Majlis. His current role in training has been invisible and jumping 2 grades, whilst acceptable within the HR policy, would be an unlikely move. JA can get to grips with the mess he's inherited and with 5 years or so from retirement, DSVP would work well for him. HAH can bide his time, follow closely with JA then perhaps take over himself for the last 4-5 years, assisting with the Emiratisation policy!
As already alluded to on another thread, I agree with you. It's nothing short of disgraceful. I wonder if the same will the same occur when STC retires?
Harry
I really don't think JA will make any difference if he gets the job. The only difference is TCJA does not rhyme as well.
Like ya thinking fliion.
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You guys are very strange.
Why would you make up an abusive name for somebody that has so far not does not have the job nor has proved to be an arse yet? And that you want to help you in the future?
Do you not think, little Al might have had a quick look on here all those years ago when he joined and saw you "witty" people calling him TCAS and thinking to him self.. How nice ...I might not help these guys too much after all!
Once they prove themselves to be an arse then make up all the names you want.
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Why would you make up an abusive name for somebody that has so far not does not have the job nor has proved to be an arse yet? And that you want to help you in the future?
Do you not think, little Al might have had a quick look on here all those years ago when he joined and saw you "witty" people calling him TCAS and thinking to him self.. How nice ...I might not help these guys too much after all!
Once they prove themselves to be an arse then make up all the names you want.
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Modesh - chill brother, light hearted venting
If makes you feel better...and he gets the job and sorts it out in six months, we rename him:
JAR-OPS
..reorganizing previous shambles.
Too much ill1will has been created that regardless of person in question - it's got too poisonous.
The guy who gets the upper floors to put through a 20%ish pay raise might have a chance.
Don't hold your breath.
If makes you feel better...and he gets the job and sorts it out in six months, we rename him:
JAR-OPS
..reorganizing previous shambles.
Too much ill1will has been created that regardless of person in question - it's got too poisonous.
The guy who gets the upper floors to put through a 20%ish pay raise might have a chance.
Don't hold your breath.
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Ta Fliion chilled now.
I don't disagree with your comments, just saying it can't have helped our position.
Would you go out of your way to help somebody that was calling you a C?? Light hearted or not.
Actually JAR-OPS is quite good.
Plus its not at all abusive. Lets hope he lives up to it, if he gets the job.
M
I don't disagree with your comments, just saying it can't have helped our position.
Would you go out of your way to help somebody that was calling you a C?? Light hearted or not.
Actually JAR-OPS is quite good.
Plus its not at all abusive. Lets hope he lives up to it, if he gets the job.
M
Oh no. EK policy is decided from comments on pprune. We are in deeper sh@te than we thought.
ATC has been in charge of the leave policy since the horse left hasn't he? He wrote the letter congratulating himself and team on giving 90% of the pilots 30days leave right? He forgot to mention how much of the 90% received forced leave. If you write to him about the 42days he replies they only need to give you 30.
I am thinking JAR-OPS will require some Blues Brothers type divine intervention.
ATC has been in charge of the leave policy since the horse left hasn't he? He wrote the letter congratulating himself and team on giving 90% of the pilots 30days leave right? He forgot to mention how much of the 90% received forced leave. If you write to him about the 42days he replies they only need to give you 30.
I am thinking JAR-OPS will require some Blues Brothers type divine intervention.
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If TOGA (That Other Guy .......) gets the job then I wish him the best - he's a good man - but I wouldn't actually wish the position on a gent like TOGA because of what it means to hold a position like that in this company.
Modesh, were you here when TCAS showed up? If he wanted a chummy loving relationship with the pilots then he did himself no favours from Day One when he put his name to Father of Factoring thereby establishing his position with a shabby dodgy policy that, if I recall correctly, lasted exactly the six month effective duration of the FCI and then vanished without a trace. The chicken came before the egg.
Modesh, were you here when TCAS showed up? If he wanted a chummy loving relationship with the pilots then he did himself no favours from Day One when he put his name to Father of Factoring thereby establishing his position with a shabby dodgy policy that, if I recall correctly, lasted exactly the six month effective duration of the FCI and then vanished without a trace. The chicken came before the egg.
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Sadly I was here when he turned up.
And wee A was being called TCAS before he set foot in the office....
It can't of helped.
M
And wee A was being called TCAS before he set foot in the office....
It can't of helped.
M
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TCAS is from his BA days. Not made up here. It's not our fault he lived up to his reputation.
JA may be a gentleman, but he has been here a few years and has been ineffective. The puppeteers are still the same, so can't see how he would improve.
JA may be a gentleman, but he has been here a few years and has been ineffective. The puppeteers are still the same, so can't see how he would improve.