EK XMAS ROSTER
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Remember, it's 100 in 28 days, so probably legal. And if you're doing an ULR, for duty your augmenting rest doesn't count for your monthly max flight hours. I think that's still the case. Oh you'll get paid for the total flight hours. That's your pay raise.
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85ish hours, No ULRs
12 days off (2 blocks of 5)
Working Christmas, but the trip is to home so will have chrimbo at home.
Have done my homework on this bidding system, so far so good.
85ish hours, No ULRs
12 days off (2 blocks of 5)
Working Christmas, but the trip is to home so will have chrimbo at home.
Have done my homework on this bidding system, so far so good.
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Working for EK would one expect Christmas Off, isn't it just another day?
EK Pilot
F***ing hell, you sure cant squeeze a quick turn in there....
EK Pilot
2 ULRs, 1 turn, 5 EU flights all night flights
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Middle Bid Left seat 777. 93 hours with 12 days off and good or decent layovers. Although I do work Christmas. Granted the rostering is getting worse at EK but perhaps you guys should spend less time on PPrune and more time learning how to bid.
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Wow - with the above post...
we knew the goal posts had moved...but
...how quickly some have followed.
We now have people who think 93 hours! and working Xmas is proof of deft Jepp work after just their 2nd try!
Jesus wept
we knew the goal posts had moved...but
...how quickly some have followed.
We now have people who think 93 hours! and working Xmas is proof of deft Jepp work after just their 2nd try!
Jesus wept
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2nd top Habibis
OK, so I went and saw the Pilotbidhelpdudes, after this months sh1te. My priority was days off over Xmas.
What I got.
6 days off over Xmas, followed by a ULR... Better than nowt eh.
Got 2 x MCO, only wanted 1. Feast or famine eh!
1 other layover that is OK, not bid for.
3 crap turnarounds, and an ABV that came outta nowhere!
89.5 hours and 11 days off.
Gonna write in again, like all you moaning on here should do. If you don't, then nothing will change.
SyB
OK, so I went and saw the Pilotbidhelpdudes, after this months sh1te. My priority was days off over Xmas.
What I got.
6 days off over Xmas, followed by a ULR... Better than nowt eh.
Got 2 x MCO, only wanted 1. Feast or famine eh!
1 other layover that is OK, not bid for.
3 crap turnarounds, and an ABV that came outta nowhere!
89.5 hours and 11 days off.
Gonna write in again, like all you moaning on here should do. If you don't, then nothing will change.
SyB
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The new roster system is working great- for the company.
The planes keep coming & the pilots keep leaving / not joining.
Do the maths, it's not going to get any better any time soon.
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The new bid system is about managing expectations, eventually getting one trip you asked for will be considered success. A bit like boiling a frog.... Motojet is there already.....
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Hardly Praise Jebus. I am not happy with 90 something hours. Nor am I happy with the new bid system. Only having 5 choices is ridiculous. Limits on days off in a row or max days off in a month is asinine.
But when guys in the same bid group as myself or higher get 100 hours, a month of turns or all night flights perhaps they should take a look at their bid strategies.
But when guys in the same bid group as myself or higher get 100 hours, a month of turns or all night flights perhaps they should take a look at their bid strategies.
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Received my top request, days off after leave, only to be followed by a ULR!
So practically worthless as far as vacation extension.
7 days leave, plus handling sim, and 82 hours flying.
Working Xmas and nye. How lovely.
So practically worthless as far as vacation extension.
7 days leave, plus handling sim, and 82 hours flying.
Working Xmas and nye. How lovely.
Turtle, there are ways and means to manipulate the rules in your favour. Without quoting chapter and verse, look at the rostering rules. (You probably already know this, and it's why I always bid for a ULR after leave)
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But don't you have to come back to DXB on those off days before the ULR in order to be acclimatized?
No you don't. It's all explained in the rules.
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Well it depends on how many days off Turtle got after leave. One absolutely needs 3 local nights in Dubai to be acclimatised before ULR. (OM-A 7.C.3.c)
This of course assuming that leave is spend outside 2 time zones away from DXB.
Yes there are ways of "interpreting" the rules in a different way, but in the end of the day, when you are in the office for T&B, its their interpretation that matters... Just be careful...
This of course assuming that leave is spend outside 2 time zones away from DXB.
Yes there are ways of "interpreting" the rules in a different way, but in the end of the day, when you are in the office for T&B, its their interpretation that matters... Just be careful...
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Going on leave does not alter acclimatisation. You can go to Seattle for a month and if you left Dubai acclimatised you return acclimatised.
To have any effect you must end a duty outside the band.
You may be tired, you may be jet-lagged but by the letter of the law you are acclimatised.
To have any effect you must end a duty outside the band.
You may be tired, you may be jet-lagged but by the letter of the law you are acclimatised.
Drop- I think you are wrong in your interpretation.
If you go to Seattle on leave, and come back after 2 weeks. You cannot do a ULR to Sydney (unless you spent three nights in Dubai before the duty).
If you went to Seattle then enroute to home stayed in Cyprus say, for a few days then came to Dubai, you could then do a Sydney.
The company has given warnings to guys who have gone to London on days off, then come back to Dubai 12 hours before doing a ULR duty.
If you go to Seattle on leave, and come back after 2 weeks. You cannot do a ULR to Sydney (unless you spent three nights in Dubai before the duty).
If you went to Seattle then enroute to home stayed in Cyprus say, for a few days then came to Dubai, you could then do a Sydney.
The company has given warnings to guys who have gone to London on days off, then come back to Dubai 12 hours before doing a ULR duty.
