Which Airlines Have the Best Package In The Gulf region
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Which Airlines Have the Best Package In The Gulf region
I notesd that when I talk to the pilots who works for the major airlines in the region, usually they are not happy with their total income ( which is the human nature
), however the serprise is that every single pilot claim that his company is paying the less salary between them all,
For example, emirates pilots claim that Qatar, Etihad and Saudi Airlines pilots are being payed more than them, And the same story will hear it from Saudi pilots, Etihad pilots,etc,.
So, I thought if it possible for pprune captains and First officer
To spare few minutes of their time and clearify this matter by stating their companies and their total income.
), however the serprise is that every single pilot claim that his company is paying the less salary between them all,For example, emirates pilots claim that Qatar, Etihad and Saudi Airlines pilots are being payed more than them, And the same story will hear it from Saudi pilots, Etihad pilots,etc,.
So, I thought if it possible for pprune captains and First officer
To spare few minutes of their time and clearify this matter by stating their companies and their total income.
Right after you.
Noticed, surprise, paid and clarify.
I know everyone detests the spelling police but are we really so thick as a profession that we can't have a go at getting it right..?
Emirates has a Provident Fund plus bonus scheme ( variable depending on corporate performance). Traditionally this would make EK the region's market leader in terms of remuneration. However, a keen observer of the ME section could surmise that money isn't everything...
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I know everyone detests the spelling police but are we really so thick as a profession that we can't have a go at getting it right..?
Emirates has a Provident Fund plus bonus scheme ( variable depending on corporate performance). Traditionally this would make EK the region's market leader in terms of remuneration. However, a keen observer of the ME section could surmise that money isn't everything...
Cheers
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I am actually interested in this thread. I would like to try long haul before I retire from flying and taking the advantage that I don't have any financial nor personal commitment here in Europe that keeps me captive I would also like to know which of the three options would you recommend for that purpose.
I am more inclined towards EK than QR or the "nEYmless airline" on the grounds of salary, location and hiring opportinities but if anyone has a different point of view I would like to listen to it.
Flying full time for EZY is not a long term option either.
First Officer.
I am more inclined towards EK than QR or the "nEYmless airline" on the grounds of salary, location and hiring opportinities but if anyone has a different point of view I would like to listen to it.
Flying full time for EZY is not a long term option either.
First Officer.
Correct Left Coaster. I would be the first to admit that I can get grammar, punctuation and spelling wrong but at least I try to get it right. I appreciate that English is not always the first language here but I am amazed at times that a professional pilot's forum can display such poor literacy. Call me a bluff old traditionalist...However, it was almost inevitable that I should make a spelling mistake of my own so I will take it on the chin.
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Wow, a spelling bee..
Okay, I'll help to invigilate!
brokenenglish, you are 100% incorrect.
Region's is correct and regions is incorrect in the context of olster's statement, as he is talking about a single region, the Middle East. Were he talking about several regions, you would still have been incorrect as in that situation, he would have to write regions'.
What was the original question anyway, something about ELP?
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brokenenglish, you are 100% incorrect.
Region's is correct and regions is incorrect in the context of olster's statement, as he is talking about a single region, the Middle East. Were he talking about several regions, you would still have been incorrect as in that situation, he would have to write regions'.
What was the original question anyway, something about ELP?
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Really??
Anyone can help me spell "Wancker"? 
Really?? you call yourselfs "professional" pilots..
and instead of helping each other.. someone launshing a genuine question.. and albeit an interesting one.. you have to have a go at someone?? makes you feel better doesn't it? 
I think he was just pissed when he wrote it.. sounds more than plausible..
Pointer
Really?? you call yourselfs "professional" pilots..
and instead of helping each other.. someone launshing a genuine question.. and albeit an interesting one.. you have to have a go at someone?? makes you feel better doesn't it? I think he was just pissed when he wrote it.. sounds more than plausible..
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To answer the original poster's question is not simple. The respective packages at the ME3 airlines are made up of constituent parts including generally basic income, productivity pay, overnight allowances and some form of End of Service benefit that is based on time served. Also there will be Accommodation Allowance or accommodation provided depending on the actual airline. If you are a parent there is an Education Allowance for children, usually up to 19 years old. EK provides a Provident Fund for retirement and also a ( controversial) Bonus scheme which was quite lucrative last financial year.
There is probably not a huge difference between the ME3 in overall income but subtle differences in each company. The Staff Travel is generally very good, not all would agree but you would have access to cheap tickets in all classes plus a smattering of free tickets per year. Outside the ME3 you could consider Air Arabia, flydubai. Oman Air and I suppose you would find variations on the same theme. For example I believe that the original Air Arabia captains were on a very good income but based on very high flying hours - not everyone's cup of tea.
Saudia is anecdotally the highest payer but there is an obvious reason for that. In summary you are unlikely to find anyone who will publish their payslips on here but the packages are made up of constituent parts that reflect the expat nature of the job.
And finally for Pointer: no, it does not make me feel good about myself to correct spelling mistakes nor does it give me a feeling of 'superiority'. I did partly answer the question originally but felt that the poster was below the bar grammatically; I get frustrated with the 'spelling police' myself. Predictably, I also made a spelling error. The reply was generally meant in a light - hearted way so your reaction tends to make me think that you are the onanist of this thread, not others.
There is probably not a huge difference between the ME3 in overall income but subtle differences in each company. The Staff Travel is generally very good, not all would agree but you would have access to cheap tickets in all classes plus a smattering of free tickets per year. Outside the ME3 you could consider Air Arabia, flydubai. Oman Air and I suppose you would find variations on the same theme. For example I believe that the original Air Arabia captains were on a very good income but based on very high flying hours - not everyone's cup of tea.
Saudia is anecdotally the highest payer but there is an obvious reason for that. In summary you are unlikely to find anyone who will publish their payslips on here but the packages are made up of constituent parts that reflect the expat nature of the job.
And finally for Pointer: no, it does not make me feel good about myself to correct spelling mistakes nor does it give me a feeling of 'superiority'. I did partly answer the question originally but felt that the poster was below the bar grammatically; I get frustrated with the 'spelling police' myself. Predictably, I also made a spelling error. The reply was generally meant in a light - hearted way so your reaction tends to make me think that you are the onanist of this thread, not others.
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All nine crew and 72 passengers escaped unharmed.
The pilots used a glass of water as their reference ADI
They do not speak a word of English.
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Thank you very much to the all pilots who stood up for me
And dear olster, Please accept my apology , I have been spoiled by the auto correction function on my lap top.
Promise you to put more effort in order to improve my spelling, however, not promising you much on the grammar
And dear olster, Please accept my apology , I have been spoiled by the auto correction function on my lap top.
Promise you to put more effort in order to improve my spelling, however, not promising you much on the grammar
No problem at all Born to Suffer. I didn't intend your thread to take a turn to discussions on grammar / spelling. However, I couldn't help myself after your original post. Despite your name it is not my intention to make you suffer any more! I hope my latter post was more constructive and at least made an attempt at a reasonable response to your question. The pilots in this region have differing packages depending on the carrier that they work for. It is hard to say who makes the most in purely monetary terms but I think Saudia would be the most likely. The pilot community out here, including me, tend to look at the '**** bucket' versus 'happiness' bucket. That is a crude analogy but lifestyle issues are broadly more important than just cash. Flying to the limit and perpetual fatigue / jet lag do not make for happy pilots - refer to adjacent threads. I hope that this helps.
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Dear Olster
Your subsequent post (with perfect elocution and grammar may I say!) regarding the ME3 and the various packages was really very good, and most informative. I want to apologize for the call out on your previous, it was just sitting there waiting for a poke...glad you have a sense of humour about it.
Cheers,
LC
Cheers,
LC