Lowered requirements Emirates
The WSJ article-
Let's see- April, May, June, July August.....
Nope- don't think it had much impact (apart from losing the "Timeline" , which is a pain in the asre.)
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Rory Jones
April 9, 2015 9:59 a.m. ET
Rory Jones
April 9, 2015 9:59 a.m. ET
Nope- don't think it had much impact (apart from losing the "Timeline" , which is a pain in the asre.)
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another good link from the WSJ, LMAO
http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/22...luding-ek.html
good old Brian, I wonder if he is still in the pit?
good old Brian, I wonder if he is still in the pit?
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Funny, i got today an email from recruitement stating their requirements have been changed. I was really amused with the following sentence: "You could be living in dynamic Dubai, enjoying a sunny lifestyle while earning a tax-free salary ....." 
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I don't know why you were amused.
Dubai is dynamic and you can enjoy a sunny lifestyle.
No surprise there.
Whereas the tax free myth is a blunt lie.
Nothing to be amused by that. Get used to be lied to day in, day out.
Dubai is dynamic and you can enjoy a sunny lifestyle.
No surprise there.
Whereas the tax free myth is a blunt lie.
Nothing to be amused by that. Get used to be lied to day in, day out.
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Are there ANY positives at EK nowadays?!
I created a profile a few years ago for a laugh despite being nowhere near the minimum requirements.
On Monday last I got the email from EK asking me to update my profile then email them back if I was still interested in a FO position with them!
I've about 1550hrs TT on TPs even lighter than ATRs/Dash 8s
Desperation it seems indeed!
I created a profile a few years ago for a laugh despite being nowhere near the minimum requirements.
On Monday last I got the email from EK asking me to update my profile then email them back if I was still interested in a FO position with them!
I've about 1550hrs TT on TPs even lighter than ATRs/Dash 8s
Desperation it seems indeed!
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Hi Primary Governor, I also got an email from EK telling me to update my profile and send an email to a specific email stating my interest in joining Emirates and the position.
6000 hours on ATR, Training Captain.
I think we are all getting the same email, has anyone got an invitation for the interview??
6000 hours on ATR, Training Captain.
I think we are all getting the same email, has anyone got an invitation for the interview??
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PG,
To answer your first question: No, not really (been here +10y)
By all means, come and do the interview, but make sure you talk to some line guys while you are here. Recruitment will blow sunshine up your backside like you've never felt before.
It could be a great option for you to consider, just don't be surprised when we have to say "told you so" in a few years.
VLS
To answer your first question: No, not really (been here +10y)
By all means, come and do the interview, but make sure you talk to some line guys while you are here. Recruitment will blow sunshine up your backside like you've never felt before.
It could be a great option for you to consider, just don't be surprised when we have to say "told you so" in a few years.
VLS
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Yes it was a generic email for sure.
To be honest having read all here and spoken to a few people I know thereI don't think I would consider it. It sounds fairly miserable.
Of course when I embarked on my training I would have hoped/envisaged to operate for an airline on equipment such as an A330 or 777 but not at all costs.
I've turned down a few P2F schemes already.
I've an ok life now, one month away from home on duty, then one month off (completely off) at home.
Good money but no stability/career advancement really.
In the unlikely event I get called for the assessments/interview and get offered a place on the 332 for example; and I chose to remain where I am, in the RHS of a B1900D then the career/industry is truly hopeless!
To be honest having read all here and spoken to a few people I know thereI don't think I would consider it. It sounds fairly miserable.
Of course when I embarked on my training I would have hoped/envisaged to operate for an airline on equipment such as an A330 or 777 but not at all costs.
I've turned down a few P2F schemes already.
I've an ok life now, one month away from home on duty, then one month off (completely off) at home.
Good money but no stability/career advancement really.
In the unlikely event I get called for the assessments/interview and get offered a place on the 332 for example; and I chose to remain where I am, in the RHS of a B1900D
then the career/industry is truly hopeless!
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Be with them for 5 years PG,(or get the rating, make 1000,pay them and leave in between) right seat of a B1900 to A330 is too good to believe. It's a good opportunity. Fortunately we jet drivers have some options at the moment. It all depends how it goes with you, whether they improve or detroriate with time etc.
I personally know 2500 hrs + TP guys with no prev command exp transition to 737 LHS, few of them were excellent and some had habits like kicking excessive rudder etc. again it depends on how well a person can adopt to speed and other changes in cockpit.
It's a game of demand & supply ! Today they just need Atpl, once they needed 2500+ on aircaft more than 75T and in the far futute it might be a min of 1000hrs on type ! Who knows...
I personally know 2500 hrs + TP guys with no prev command exp transition to 737 LHS, few of them were excellent and some had habits like kicking excessive rudder etc. again it depends on how well a person can adopt to speed and other changes in cockpit.
It's a game of demand & supply ! Today they just need Atpl, once they needed 2500+ on aircaft more than 75T and in the far futute it might be a min of 1000hrs on type ! Who knows...
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Cheers flyboy,
I'm realistic, I know it was a generic email sent to all in their database so I don't believe they will actually look at someone with my low level of experience!
I'm realistic, I know it was a generic email sent to all in their database so I don't believe they will actually look at someone with my low level of experience!
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Governor
It could be good. But it's not. Very little would have to happen to fix it, and a large portion is cost neutral to them. Part of the frustration. IF you do get offered the 777 ask them to etch the offer into a 5 kg gold bar that you will return to them after completing the 777 course.
One of their biggest issues at EK is promising you the 777 or 380 then switching you to the 330 a day or two into the welcome course. And surprise they have the 330 sims and instructors waiting for you! I have flown with many FO's that this has happened to. Some very recently. Emirates knows you don't have a job to go back to so they figure you are stuck. Personally, I would accept nothing but the 777. If you get the 330 you will be here as an FO till the fleet dies in 3-4 years then you will be moved over to the 380. However, once on the 380 ALL the Captain slots will have been filled or spoken for and you will be a career FO with a very interesting type rating. Best to look for smoother waters. It's gonna be a rough ride here for the foreseeable future. Love your schedule! I would stay put!
Your other option is to do it for 18 months then take your new type and go.
One of their biggest issues at EK is promising you the 777 or 380 then switching you to the 330 a day or two into the welcome course. And surprise they have the 330 sims and instructors waiting for you! I have flown with many FO's that this has happened to. Some very recently. Emirates knows you don't have a job to go back to so they figure you are stuck. Personally, I would accept nothing but the 777. If you get the 330 you will be here as an FO till the fleet dies in 3-4 years then you will be moved over to the 380. However, once on the 380 ALL the Captain slots will have been filled or spoken for and you will be a career FO with a very interesting type rating. Best to look for smoother waters. It's gonna be a rough ride here for the foreseeable future. Love your schedule! I would stay put!
Your other option is to do it for 18 months then take your new type and go.
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If you are considering the ME and Emirates (obviously the fact that we are talking about it) you could also apply with Qatar, Etihad and FlyDubai as well.....don't want to start a new debate, just saying they're all in need of pilots.
Also, think about where you would go if you did work for a couple years and left? I don't see many US or Canadian airlines hiring foreign wide body fleet FO's and i definitely would choose the ME over Asia personally.
Also, think about where you would go if you did work for a couple years and left? I don't see many US or Canadian airlines hiring foreign wide body fleet FO's and i definitely would choose the ME over Asia personally.
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Thanks Rustler!
Anybody know what's the period of the bond? How much is it? Would it be difficult to leave after 18months say?
Yes, my schedule is nice and the money is good! But these reasons mean my skippers ain't going anywhere! So no chance to move to LHS on my beautiful 1900D! Which reminds me, I must mention to them that EK have lowered their FO mins to ATPL and ICAO Lvl 4+ ! That might free up a LHS for me !
Anyway, I really I don't think I'll actually have any decisions to make regarding EK! I'll keep you all posted though!
I'm off now to enjoy my remaining 2.5 weeks off at home
Anybody know what's the period of the bond? How much is it? Would it be difficult to leave after 18months say?
Yes, my schedule is nice and the money is good! But these reasons mean my skippers ain't going anywhere! So no chance to move to LHS on my beautiful 1900D! Which reminds me, I must mention to them that EK have lowered their FO mins to ATPL and ICAO Lvl 4+ ! That might free up a LHS for me !
Anyway, I really I don't think I'll actually have any decisions to make regarding EK! I'll keep you all posted though!
I'm off now to enjoy my remaining 2.5 weeks off at home