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Old 4th Aug 2015, 18:34
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If you get the 330 you will be here as an FO till the fleet dies in 3-4 years
330/340 is slated to be gone end of 2016 with possibly one 340 still flying up to Jan 2017. Even of the plan doesn't go as advertised they won't last more than 2 more years. This means if you do get offered a 330 course you will find yourself on something else within a short space of time, probably 380.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 18:40
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5 years 42,000 $
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 18:44
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We airline pilots don't know what is it like to have 30 days on and off...
I get 28d a year
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 18:46
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VFE

VFE- Yes, you are correct. But unless you are a betting man I wouldn't come to the 330. Remember the 310? Also, I am not sure if all the Captain spots would be taken if you were at the bottom of the pile on the 380 in two years, but my guess is you would have missed the boat maybe not. Someone want to do the math?


Gov- I have not heard of anyone getting dinged for stepping out early. That absolutely does not mean it hasn't happened. Someone correct me if they have heard otherwise. Maybe they keep your retirement and last pay check, which after 18 months would not be much.


Slaveaway- If you can fog a mirror in level 4 English or better, then yes your qualified.
Come on down!
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 18:52
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How long after submitting the app will I get a response?
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 01:37
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Do people realize that the overall AC numbers are only going to increase by 30-50 over the next 10 years.
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 06:19
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5 Years & 42K for a bond is ludicrous! No wonder they are desperate
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 10:53
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I think EK could be a good option for people on turboprops depending on their circumstances.

Even if they're not happy in EK they will have jet experience and could go back to low cost jet jobs in Europe or Asia. That could still be better than where some are right now and you'll have seen a bit of the world on your 24hour layovers. Maybe pulled a load of cabin crew in the process if thats your thing?!

Needless to say the A330 would be the worst case scenario. EK reserves the right to put you on that type even if you're employed as a 380 or 777 FO. But it is a useful type that you can take elsewhere if you're really not happy in EK.

Don't know how much night flying guys on props will be doing. I think it fair to say you will be doing a LOT more if you join EK.

Plenty of info on all the other negatives on pprune. Plenty of info on the positives from the company.

One more thing I would say is that it is impossible to predict time to command now. It could be much quicker than you are told or it could be much longer. Reasons being...
Fleet retirement completely varies depending on what the company wants one week or the next. Retirement rate up = expansion rate down and vice versa.
Resignations up a bit and certainly looks like that will continue with current morale levels. A future exodus could lead to DEC.
EK can move people from 777 to 380 at will. This can slow down/speed up command on specific fleets.

So as I've said to many friends thinking of joining, think long and hard about all the pros and cons and decide if it is right for you personally.
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 19:18
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Any chances to get a call with 1490 TT and ATPL written?
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 20:54
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Just a quick question.. Any chance to get called with 2200 ejet time and single engine faa atp?
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 22:05
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Here's an idea, put your application in and let them decide! Like anyone on here is going to know what your chances are like. Wow, scraping the bottom of the barrel it seems.
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Old 5th Aug 2015, 23:15
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Yeh, that's what I don't get. All the questions about....how long will it take to hear if I put an application in....any chance with xxxx hours....

If you are big boys, just put in an application and see what happens. But please, if you do get the job, don't come on here in 12 months complaining. You have been warned over and over again.
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Old 6th Aug 2015, 04:13
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5 Years & 42K for a bond is ludicrous! No wonder they are desperate
You have just been given an insight to the mindset. Absorb it.

Staff retention is now more than just a serious concern. So instead of analyzing what is the issue - pay vs cost of living, rosters, fatigue, treatment of employees to name but a few - and correcting it, what is the 'solution'? Bring out a bigger stick.

The bond was 3 years/$36k until recently. But pilots were leaving not just at the completion of their bond, but also prior to it. So the 'fix' in their mindset is to bond people for longer, for more money.

That'll work.
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Old 6th Aug 2015, 05:37
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Years ago I coudn't even get a friend hired with over 5000 TT on Gulfstreams and now every single 1500 hour wonder with an ATP is suitable. Put down the beer goggles, submit the application and wait. Won't help asking us if your qualifications are competitive or not, nor do most of us care. We are to busy filling out our own apps to get out of here.
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Old 6th Aug 2015, 08:05
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One way to solve all this nonsense...commuting or opening of crew bases in Europe/N America. Heaven forbid people would spend their hard earned cash in their own countries though!
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Old 6th Aug 2015, 08:20
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Despots wouldn't dream of losing control of their domain!
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Old 6th Aug 2015, 08:56
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One way to solve all this nonsense...commuting or opening of crew bases in Europe/N America. Heaven forbid people would spend their hard earned cash in their own countries though!
Plenty of people spend the bare minimum already in-country on the basis that if anything goes wrong, you have cash, and access to it from offshore.
Regarding EKs crewing crisis, cos that's what it is now, they would rather have guys with no jet time occupying a seat than paying for experienced operators and improving the QOL for existing crew.
It should show ANY perspective interviewees what kind of a place EK is in terms of management style and how you will be viewed/treated as an employee.
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Old 6th Aug 2015, 09:04
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I applied EK with 2500 on NG and dual ATPL(independent not converted) and had to wait 24mo to get a call....!
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Old 6th Aug 2015, 10:09
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VeroFlyer - yep, give me a London/Euro base and I'd be there in a heartbeat and I suspect I wouldn't be the only one!
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Old 6th Aug 2015, 10:20
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Me too. A london basing with guaranteed days at home each month and I'll be interested. I don't fancy the current EK way of life!
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