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Hi Guys
You make me cry with your misery there, or actually, happy and proud of myself sending to the hell to EK and fleet managers and HR managers a few years ago.
Currently I am flying 65 hour a month, 13 days OFF strings + travel time, 14k per month as a 777 skipper.
Shall i apply as a DEC to return to the sand pit????!!!!
Keep Slavering! and good luck!
I predicted all this rubbish 5 years ago...you are still on time to get out of there...
You make me cry with your misery there, or actually, happy and proud of myself sending to the hell to EK and fleet managers and HR managers a few years ago.
Currently I am flying 65 hour a month, 13 days OFF strings + travel time, 14k per month as a 777 skipper.
Shall i apply as a DEC to return to the sand pit????!!!!
Keep Slavering! and good luck!
I predicted all this rubbish 5 years ago...you are still on time to get out of there...
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Found this little nugget recently, remind any EK and ex EK types of any individuals contained within?
"Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard, disorganized and spontaneous rather than planned.
Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature."
Just a thought to ponder, the beer in Germany today tastes great
"Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard, disorganized and spontaneous rather than planned.
Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature."
Just a thought to ponder, the beer in Germany today tastes great
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It gets worse!
Latest rumour, and it's only rumour at this time, is that 4 (ex?) Air Arabia Captains were being assessed for 380 DEC this week.
Another nail in the coffin IF it's true
Latest rumour, and it's only rumour at this time, is that 4 (ex?) Air Arabia Captains were being assessed for 380 DEC this week.
Another nail in the coffin IF it's true
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OMG!
DEC from a narrow-body on to the holy grail of the airline world?
Where most of EK's T7 drivers apparently almost failed to transit?
That must send shivers down the spines of all Super skippers ....
To be honest, down mine too, if true. If we are looking at TP FOs paired with NB DECs and the system would work safely, it would only mean we are all not that special, wouldn't it?
I'll be retired by then, shouldn't care less, but I still would like to enjoy staff travel on EK.
So hopefully they know what they are doing!
DEC from a narrow-body on to the holy grail of the airline world?
Where most of EK's T7 drivers apparently almost failed to transit?
That must send shivers down the spines of all Super skippers ....
To be honest, down mine too, if true. If we are looking at TP FOs paired with NB DECs and the system would work safely, it would only mean we are all not that special, wouldn't it?
I'll be retired by then, shouldn't care less, but I still would like to enjoy staff travel on EK.
So hopefully they know what they are doing!
I believe a 380 sim was available where the 330 one wasn't.
Gloie think you're doing a disservice to the fellas that swapped fleets. The majority had no problem with the transition, and seem to be enjoying flying something modern.
Gloie think you're doing a disservice to the fellas that swapped fleets. The majority had no problem with the transition, and seem to be enjoying flying something modern.
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F/Os have not previously had their upgrades delayed due to DEC recruitment. Current (attempted) A330 DEC recruitment is the same, any qualified F/O - and they have lowered the requirements - has been upgraded.
If they take B777 DECs - and I'm not convinced they will - then this will be different, very different, to any past DEC hiring. If I was a junior F/O I would be off to EY or QR for my upgrade.
Interestingly, this wouldn't be the case on the A380 - again upgrades are happening there on min time, so hard to complain! Still can't believe they'd put DECs on their pride and joy, but if they did it wouldn't stop any current F/O getting their command.
BTW, Malingo: I might be doing 85+ hours a month, but I'm earning over $22K a month with 42 days leave (even if I have to take that as cash not time off). Think KAL leave is 0 days if you take 11 days off a month?
Ancient TREs would be 30% more than me.
Lots of problems at EK but pay is not one of them.
Keep it rational!
If they take B777 DECs - and I'm not convinced they will - then this will be different, very different, to any past DEC hiring. If I was a junior F/O I would be off to EY or QR for my upgrade.
Interestingly, this wouldn't be the case on the A380 - again upgrades are happening there on min time, so hard to complain! Still can't believe they'd put DECs on their pride and joy, but if they did it wouldn't stop any current F/O getting their command.
BTW, Malingo: I might be doing 85+ hours a month, but I'm earning over $22K a month with 42 days leave (even if I have to take that as cash not time off). Think KAL leave is 0 days if you take 11 days off a month?
Ancient TREs would be 30% more than me.
Lots of problems at EK but pay is not one of them.
Keep it rational!
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My upgrade in 2007 was delayed by about a year purely because of DEC hiring. I was one of the last FOs to be hired before the whole DEC thing started, anyone joining in the last 10 years knew the situation. Still doesn't make it right.
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Yes just because pilots at EK supposedly knew about DECs doesn't make it right to still hire them, especially now.
Almost every single FO at EK has had their upgrade delayed by DECs weather they knew it or not.
On just about every occasion when the company hired DECs in the past it wasn't necessary and probably pre-planned. The same can be said for the present scenario times 10. Through the company actions or lack of actions the company is relying on DECs bailing them out again. Can't wait to see the what kind of experience the company will be attracting.
Is Emirates hiring Turbo-Prop DECs next?
Almost every single FO at EK has had their upgrade delayed by DECs weather they knew it or not.
On just about every occasion when the company hired DECs in the past it wasn't necessary and probably pre-planned. The same can be said for the present scenario times 10. Through the company actions or lack of actions the company is relying on DECs bailing them out again. Can't wait to see the what kind of experience the company will be attracting.
Is Emirates hiring Turbo-Prop DECs next?
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Everyone seems to be quite tense on this subject .... a sarcastic joke and poking at ourselves goes undetected.
Guys, they will do whatever it takes to get metal airborne.
Until it comes down a tad faster than anticipated and even then it will never be their fault.
Guys, they will do whatever it takes to get metal airborne.
Until it comes down a tad faster than anticipated and even then it will never be their fault.
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If they hire DEC it will be very discouraging for many F/O, and another thing is that i´m not sure if they will find so many DEC with rating in B777 or A380 willing to join EK.
I think the new minimums are the correct way if they can't find pilots, get more pilots and slowly upgrade the ones in house. otherwise altering the seniority will create some problems, many F/O that currently are not so unhappy could start considering to go.
Few days ago I got an email from EK that I have been shortlisted and placed in a holding pool, but I think they sent that email to almost everyone that applied.
The shortage of pilots is going to affect many airlines and I am sure more airlines are going to follow EK.
I think the new minimums are the correct way if they can't find pilots, get more pilots and slowly upgrade the ones in house. otherwise altering the seniority will create some problems, many F/O that currently are not so unhappy could start considering to go.
Few days ago I got an email from EK that I have been shortlisted and placed in a holding pool, but I think they sent that email to almost everyone that applied.
The shortage of pilots is going to affect many airlines and I am sure more airlines are going to follow EK.
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How are you guys finding inductive reasoning and critical thinking assessments for Type Rated Boeing applicants. While the former is a stronger point, the latter is a weaker area and need to know how to better improve on the critical assessment part. I have purchased some online assessments but need some help from guys who struggled with it initially, but became better!
If interviews has a 15Q, 10 mins time out for the tests for example like above, so how many Qs are you guys getting it right or what should one do basically. Answer with accuracy if you can't finish all the 15 in 10 mins ?
If interviews has a 15Q, 10 mins time out for the tests for example like above, so how many Qs are you guys getting it right or what should one do basically. Answer with accuracy if you can't finish all the 15 in 10 mins ?
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I applied to Emirates earlier this week and unfortunately I made a mistake when I answered "Job Specific Question" #3. I answered "none of the above", when my answer should have been "2000 hours or more on multi-crew multi-engine jet above 10T with 4000 hours total time".
Once I got the "keep trying, but not now" e-mail the day after, I realized my mistake and changed the answer.
Any ideas when Emirates may look at my application again? American, mid 30s, B-737 type and time, excellent record, currently bizjet.
Once I got the "keep trying, but not now" e-mail the day after, I realized my mistake and changed the answer.
Any ideas when Emirates may look at my application again? American, mid 30s, B-737 type and time, excellent record, currently bizjet.
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American….. I heard the US airlines were hiring like… 400 pilots per month!!!
Mid 30's…. Meaning you'd have a career of 30 year career with a major in the US.
737 Type… Even SWA no longer requires this.
Dude, are you Daft? You want to come to Emirates???
Have you not read all the horror stories at this place? I say with sincerity… You really have no clue what you're getting into here. NONE!
Not trying to give you sh*t but… wow… really?? Do some reading!!! All the US guys here are screaming to get out and go back to the US.
Yet… with all the posts about what Emirates is really like…. you still want to come here?
All the best to you, man. Hope you get what you want.
I'll check this board about 6 months after you're hired and see what you think then, ok?
Kap
Mid 30's…. Meaning you'd have a career of 30 year career with a major in the US.
737 Type… Even SWA no longer requires this.
Dude, are you Daft? You want to come to Emirates???
Have you not read all the horror stories at this place? I say with sincerity… You really have no clue what you're getting into here. NONE!
Not trying to give you sh*t but… wow… really?? Do some reading!!! All the US guys here are screaming to get out and go back to the US.
Yet… with all the posts about what Emirates is really like…. you still want to come here?
All the best to you, man. Hope you get what you want.
I'll check this board about 6 months after you're hired and see what you think then, ok?
Kap
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I don't know what your thinking or reasoning is METAR but have a serious re-think about joining Emirates. It is every bit as bad as pilots are voicing on these threads.
Have you heard about the U.S. Majors? Give them a try first then if you are un successful go to Ethihad or Qatar but there are at least 5 very good airlines in the U.S. that are worth going to.
Have you heard about the U.S. Majors? Give them a try first then if you are un successful go to Ethihad or Qatar but there are at least 5 very good airlines in the U.S. that are worth going to.
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Of course the grass is greener somewhere else!
Do not listen to frustrated pilots who always firmly believe that the grass is greener somewhere else!
Come and join Emirates because we need more pilots to relieve our workload,to improve our bidding system and to upgrade the senior F/Os.
The EK package is not perfect and has been depreciated unfortunately.
Come and join Emirates because we need more pilots to relieve our workload,to improve our bidding system and to upgrade the senior F/Os.
The EK package is not perfect and has been depreciated unfortunately.