B777 wingtip damaged in LOS
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B777 wingtip damaged in LOS
Emirates Plane Collides With Hak-air Plane During Take-off At Lagos Airport -
During take-off? Ridiculous comment
....taxi-out...
During take-off? Ridiculous comment
....taxi-out...
Last edited by QCM; 7th Jul 2015 at 18:24.
short flights long nights
Lagos is a total nightmare.... In the air and on the ground. I sincerely hope the crew are treated with compassion over this one.
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http://twitter.com/jackflyboy/status/618381888055586817
ouch...feel for the crew...they were on a narrow taxiway from the looks of the 2nd pic
ouch...feel for the crew...they were on a narrow taxiway from the looks of the 2nd pic
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Sorry to say this but I think the crew screwed the pooch.
looks like the tried to stay as far left as they could and hit the tail of B737.
If in doute ???? STOP
Never trust the wing wing walkers in Africa.
We had one once taxi us into the Jetway in FOOL. After we hit the jetway with our right wing, he ran away never to be found.
looks like the tried to stay as far left as they could and hit the tail of B737.
If in doute ???? STOP
Never trust the wing wing walkers in Africa.
We had one once taxi us into the Jetway in FOOL. After we hit the jetway with our right wing, he ran away never to be found.
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Pie?
Johnny, the sweepstake has already started, sad, but true.
The only potential saving grace is that the 737 was not parked correctly - it was not being pushed back at the time of the accident.
But i'm with Jock, if in doubt, stop.
The only potential saving grace is that the 737 was not parked correctly - it was not being pushed back at the time of the accident.
But i'm with Jock, if in doubt, stop.
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"Wing walker? In Lagos? Hmmm a bit unlikely, even in daylight. This was at 2130 last night yes?"
If you don't know the facts P7xkk, why say anything at all.
How do you know that the crew did not stop, waited for a wing walker, even though you say that was unlikely, then moved forward from their stopped position under the guidance of the wing walker.
"Sorry to say this but I think the crew screwed the pooch."
Then you have FEJock giving his full judgment on the crew.
If you don't know the facts P7xkk, why say anything at all.
How do you know that the crew did not stop, waited for a wing walker, even though you say that was unlikely, then moved forward from their stopped position under the guidance of the wing walker.
"Sorry to say this but I think the crew screwed the pooch."
Then you have FEJock giving his full judgment on the crew.
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Because this is a forum, and the whole purpose of it is to post.
If you don't like the posts, that is not my issue.
And as for Lagos, when you confront the guy with the AK and it costs you money just to use the Jacks. well, says it all.
If you don't like the posts, that is not my issue.
And as for Lagos, when you confront the guy with the AK and it costs you money just to use the Jacks. well, says it all.
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ok, lets wind this back a little eh. Messages are a little "dry" and can be mis-interpreted. Especially without the necessary punctuation 
I agree with you though, we can't hang those fellas out to dry, and the purser is likely to get the tin tack anyway. Good job it was not a whale, or the shower attendants might be in shtuck too
My outlook on drivers is getting slightly jaundiced at present, due to living amongst them. Sad, but true.
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Yes, good idea. I agree, posts can be mis-interpreted. Good luck to all the crew and families, I am sure it is very stressful right now. Keeping in mind that they may be reading PPrune.
Take care P7xkk
Take care P7xkk
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Actually JohnnyR , you did not initially ask a question . You stated
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If the 737 was stationary , then I am with those that say the crew may have screwed up and supposition is not judgement . Even if in your "defense" that there could be a possibility of them moving under the direction of a wing walker , would it absolve the PIC of all responsibility ? Union airline maybe , non-union ..????
Even your fellow EK colleague, Fatbus , had an opinion that this doesn't look good .
Discussing variables are not passing judgement and you seem to be the one who passed judgement with the above quote using "WILL" . Nothing in P7 and 4 eng posts condemned the crew definitively .
Humble pie ?
Looks like two experts will be eating humble pie very soon
If the 737 was stationary , then I am with those that say the crew may have screwed up and supposition is not judgement . Even if in your "defense" that there could be a possibility of them moving under the direction of a wing walker , would it absolve the PIC of all responsibility ? Union airline maybe , non-union ..????
Even your fellow EK colleague, Fatbus , had an opinion that this doesn't look good .
Discussing variables are not passing judgement and you seem to be the one who passed judgement with the above quote using "WILL" . Nothing in P7 and 4 eng posts condemned the crew definitively .
Humble pie ?
Lagos airport is a disaster, for all the reasons we know and love.
Having been there recently on both the Freighter and the 200/300, I can attest that it makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck, much like Luanda does, and half a dozen other delightful African destinations.
Not wishing to sound holier than etc, it's days like this that we earn our money.
If you have ANY doubt, sod anyone else, it's your neck and license on the line, set the park brake, start the APU and shutdown, please don't try to be a hero and keep the show on the road. I'd rather explain my actions for being a justifiable nuisance than have to explain a collision with another parked or otherwise aircraft/obstruction.
I've done just as described previously in a number of places with EK and have never even been questioned.
Having been there recently on both the Freighter and the 200/300, I can attest that it makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck, much like Luanda does, and half a dozen other delightful African destinations.
Not wishing to sound holier than etc, it's days like this that we earn our money.
If you have ANY doubt, sod anyone else, it's your neck and license on the line, set the park brake, start the APU and shutdown, please don't try to be a hero and keep the show on the road. I'd rather explain my actions for being a justifiable nuisance than have to explain a collision with another parked or otherwise aircraft/obstruction.
I've done just as described previously in a number of places with EK and have never even been questioned.
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Right Habibis, the aircraft was being actively marshalled at the time of the collision, hence the aircraft was left of the centreline. Also it obviously hit at pretty low speed, and hence still partially embedded in the tail of the 737.
Wing walkers may have helped I am guessing! but in Lagos, too funny! I wouldn't trust them anyhow.
Lets see how this pans out for the crew, inshallah they will be fine.
SyB
Wing walkers may have helped I am guessing! but in Lagos, too funny! I wouldn't trust them anyhow.
Lets see how this pans out for the crew, inshallah they will be fine.
SyB