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Old 28th May 2015, 06:10
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Increase in school fee allowance

Can anyone please tell me the new school fee allowance for primary and secondary at Grade 9? Also, are the transportation and stationary covered?
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Old 28th May 2015, 12:29
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10%

The 10% you quote has been going on year after year. The government even reports the figures annually. It is almost always double digit. If not very close. Meaning after 3 years your cost of living will have gone up 32%. This is my point to new hires. EK will not magically change its stance from the past 8 years. Also the transport allowance was stolen 3 years ago. The education allowance increase never covers the actual increase. So every year more and more of your paycheck goes there. I know of one pilot who puts 2 months of his pay into schooling costs alone. I think for most it's about 2-3 weeks, but that is still a 5-7% pay cut. And your contribution will also only increase year on year. Boiling the frog. These are a few, very few, of the reasons your pay will be slowly and quickly deminished year over year. It has been this way for almost a decade. It will not change. IMHO. I politely stand to be corrected.
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Old 28th May 2015, 12:40
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Is stationary covered? You are kidding, right?
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 11:51
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No, just asking. By stationary I meant text books. But I need to know the allowance for schooling for secondary and primary both as I am applying for a position in Dnata (Grade 9).
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 12:31
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Stationary ?? what has stopped ??

Don't you mean Stationery for textbooks ???
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 12:58
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No I meant the "Textbooks".
So what IS the school fee allowance at Grade 9? Does it cover only tuition fee or transport also (school bus)?
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 19:34
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Hey Quinny ...

Just a thought, and this isn't meant to be argumentative or aggressive...

You're asking anonymous people on an internet forum for info. on schooling allowances etc regarding a contract you're considering signing up for.

My question simply is, isn't this all being answered for you by the amazing HR people of Dnata/EK? Surely the efficiency of such dynamic companies like these should be able to answer these simple contract/renumeration related questions?

Or....are you attempting to solicit the "facts" from guys/gals who have been in the fold of the Emirates Group for some time...and therefore have most probably been "affected" by their lack of transparency?


If the latter is the case.....Caveat Emptor

Best of luck with your decision.
 
Old 3rd Jun 2015, 06:16
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I was informed by the HR that the allowance for primary kids is AED 40,000/y AED AED 60,000/y for secondary. However I came to know from a friend that there has been a recent pay review and it has now been increased to AED 76,000/y for both primary and secondary. When I asked my HR coordinator, she was very vague about it and neither confirmed nor denied it, hence I asked on this forum.
and I haven't signed the contract yet, still negotiating the base pay.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 06:23
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That would be more than what flight deck get paid as an allowance. So you may want to recheck those numbers.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 07:01
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Might be prudent to note that Q is negotiating his salary and from that stand point seems way ahead of the Pilot body , instead of apparently assuming that Pilots have a more generous allowance .
Never really gave much credence to "grade " nomenclature , however he mentioned grade 9 , is it comparable to pilot grade ? Higher , lower or same,same ?
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 07:09
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Stone,


Pilots do have a higher allowance for housing and education than a grade 9.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 08:25
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Apologies for the confusion. It is a commercial role in Emirates Holidays, Managerial Grade 9.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 11:46
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Noted Don .
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 12:49
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When I asked my HR coordinator, she was very vague about it and neither confirmed nor denied it, hence I asked on this forum.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 13:07
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Your HR coordinator was vague? Are you getting the hint yet?
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 14:52
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My HR coordinator was vague as well when I asked how many pilots have resigned this year or since the (lack of) Bonus. She would not give me a #. I asked if she knew the number and she said yes so she was obviously instructed under penalty of death or being shipped back not to give out any information.
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