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Old 20th Apr 2015, 15:44
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I took a photo of the pay scale slide while it was up and what I can see for wide body Captain is TL 29,377. This Includes, from what I can tell, the quarterly bonus divided up to get a better representation of monthly pay. This is all for 70 hours of flying.

According my exchange rate app as of today, this TL 29,377 comes to 10,123 Euros. Then subtract the 5% tax taken out 9,616 Euros ($10,341) which would be take home pay.

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here….

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Old 20th Apr 2015, 15:54
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Originally Posted by 60west

Minimum rest at base after ER is 48 hrs.
The block off days are 9, often get a extra one.
Plan on 13 off days per month, plus a couple of stby days.
Commuting is on a confirmed economy tkt
9 block days off is nice but.......can you put your blocks back to back so that you can get 18 off in a row and do this every time for your time off?
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Old 20th Apr 2015, 17:07
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For those of you planning to go there I can only hope they run the company better than the presentation, it was utterly crap.
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Old 20th Apr 2015, 17:17
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9 block days off is nice but.......can you put your blocks back to back so that you can get 18 off in a row and do this every time for your time off?
Yeah of course you can, work you to the bone - funny how any fatigue considerations go out the window when days off or money are involved
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Old 20th Apr 2015, 17:28
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Slugs, its always subjective, however, I thought the show this afternoon was pretty honest and open.
The commuting roster is workable though not 100% ideal ( WTF is these days?!).
The money and general package looked pretty attractive to us old gits with grown kids.
I am awaiting a copy of a buddies rosters on the 777 to see what its like "in real life".
The THY HR guys were quite open about the fact that they need expat pilots with experience. Fullstop. And are prepared to be flexible to get them. For example, they even mentioned doing as much of the selection process here in DXB, being well aware of the days off situation within our current outfit.
THY's new pay award is in negotiation so it will be interesting to see how the comparisons work out.

ps the degree thing is now dropped for the equivalent of a High School Diploma, according to the guys this pm.
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Old 20th Apr 2015, 17:42
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alwayzinit, all fair points, I'll agree. But is it smoke and mirrors? "Yes, we'll give you this and that...", but once you've joined up then the gloss comes of? The presentation struck me as being very egotistical, for example, "We want 120m pax by 2023 as it's the 100th anniversary of the Turkish Empire", or something similar.

It's the same with all these roadshows, lots of promises, but are they kept...?

The diploma thing is probably because they can't get enough expat pilots. I did chuckle when one of the team was an ex-EK captain who's been on the seniority list here for the last couple of years...

BTW, did anyone ask about smoking in the cockpit policy...?

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Old 20th Apr 2015, 17:50
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Sluggums... they don't..
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Old 20th Apr 2015, 21:00
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That comes closer to the reality I guess Kap. Including everything without any deductions.
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Old 22nd Apr 2015, 16:09
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Same same

They require a university degree...

At the same time they discriminate by age.

Same old primitive arrogance.

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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 18:09
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High School diploma only now...
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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 19:03
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You should have a look to the EUR/TRY USD/TRT charts. The TRY is back at 2,93 for 1 EUR losing another 10% in few weeks. I would suggest you all wait the outcome of June elections. The political tension both domestically and internationally with the Armenian genocide issue is very high...and it will get worse. The currency lost 100% of its value to the dollar in 4 years and economy is slowing down. Just my two cents...
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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 19:28
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100%???...
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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 23:10
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JGSE as a Turkish i do agree with 100% part. Currencies between TL euro and USD will change dramatically. Just watch and see. Today USD went up to 2.73TL and back to 2.70 again. That's a 1% change a day and believe me you will see 5-10% changes in a really short future.
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 10:31
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Today the USD is 2.7416TL and the euro is 2.9676TL so far.
USD change is 1.25% and euro 1.2% for only 5 hours.
In about an hour new statistics to come from the U.S. and if they are good expecting USD to reach 2.76-2.77TL in about a couple of hours.
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Old 26th Apr 2015, 06:49
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Angry There is NO 20% pay raise in THY. 20 days annual leave!!

I work for THY on Widebody and there is no 20% pay raise!

I don't know where the agency got that info from, but it's not correct.

Besides that THY is reducing your block of days off, when you have vacation. So basically you don't have 20 days annual leave, which you are promissed during your assessment and what your contracts says, it's more like 14-16 days. Crew planing do not honor your contract. They Fleet manager is trying to help you getting what your contract says, but Crew planing is above Fleet officer and therefore just ignoring Fleet office request!
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Old 27th Apr 2015, 10:11
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No wonder they cant recruit....below standard salary,below standard terms.
If they dont increase the salary substantially,they wont get captains,at least experienced ones,they will keep on bending metal,they wont be able to better the schedules which means more will leave.....they are doomed.
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Old 28th Apr 2015, 13:20
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De Facto..what happened? I remember you as strenuous defender of THY.

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Old 28th Apr 2015, 18:57
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Well what did I tell you? The levantine attitude ( constantly trying to screw anyone which is not of their kind) their arrogance (opposed to one of the most appalling gross incompetence ) , the immense frustration weighing over their shoulder added to one of the worst management and leadership style ever seen are again proving dangerous... 2 in 2 months.. Airbus must be happy. Qualified expat were an excellent occasion to improve but to do so you must admit your shortcomings and learn humbleness... they are just ******* it up.
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 13:49
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De Facto..what happened? I remember you as strenuous defender of THY. Have you come to the same conclusion many others have?. Pride and stubbornness kills in this business.
I dont recall defending THY but the people of turkey in general...
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Old 30th Apr 2015, 10:48
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De Facto I don't recall anyone saying anything generally negative about Turkey or its inhabitants but I don't spend such a lot of time here may be I'm wrong. Sure is that the THY sample, that is the one expat pilot came in contact with, whilst not representative of the whole population (for its peculiarities and often background) and furthermore with a large ( but still a minority ) number exception, has often not really given, one way or the other, a positive impression and this is now effecting THY reputation as an employer, and may be, in part at least , also the perception of Turkey . The responsibility sure lies on the management or lack of thereof. Having said this, adding present T&Cs and falling TRY I see it hard to find the right candidates..if not those out of options one way or another. Many I hear are considering leaving..even Turkish pilots which is something to the aforementioned management should really ring a bell. A radical change of attitude and a substantial improvement of T&C with some ( limited in time in order to settle down may be? ) benefit for expat , whilst costly in the beginning, will save THY money in the end and attract competent and experienced pilots on all seats to help THY becoming a real international carrier...Messi is not enough . Just my two cents.
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