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Old 6th Feb 2015, 05:31
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DECs - It may have just gotten a lot worse

Being hearing from two sources 100 on the cards.

Latest FCN specifically mentions it in brief for Pilot recruiter.

The sources are not mgt level so would need confirmation.

If true - I think the high time FOs are going to be mighty ticked.

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Old 6th Feb 2015, 05:36
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They've gotten themselves into a right old bind, and it might just be inevitable.
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It was denied at a wash up two days ago. Probably means it's true.
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As with everything else, always going for the short term fix with no regard to the long term effects.... That will do wonders to the morale amongst the troops!
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I wasn't around when it happened last time. Those of you that were - do you think that the general morale is worse this time around?

Genuine question btw... I shouldn't have to add that, but, well, it's PPRuNe.
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The morale is MUCH worse this time around...
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The mood might be worse, but what is more critical is the fact that the readiness and willingness to actually leave is exponentially higher. Add to this the slightly better situation in the "West" and EK is digging deeper into the doo doo.
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Not the first and not the last time DEC's have or will be used. 100 is a big number, plus if there is 60/70 777 Capt. going to the 380 that alone will take almost the entire year to do. If DEC 's were to happen I would think late I the year. I've heard , contrary to what people think, there is not enough FO' s that meet the upgrade requirement . Minimum s will not be reduced. Success rate on upgrade has not been great.
Everyone says that EK has got themselves in a bind with trying to attract new pilots, simple answer DEC's and watch how many will apply. Same as before. Slow upgrades means not as many new hire FO' s required. Moral - who cares is the EK management motto.
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DECs inevitable I think.

LoCo short-haul guys will be easily lured by salary and 500 seat push-button aeroplanes, even flying the rumoured 105 hrs per month with a 45k 5-year bond.

I know I would have been lured despite this message board.

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I've heard , contrary to what people think, there is not enough FO' s that meet the upgrade requirement . Minimum s will not be reduced.
The minimum on the 380 has just been reduced... So less drain on the 777 fleet... Well, at least that was the status quo 2 days ago...
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Old 6th Feb 2015, 14:39
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reduced to what?
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Upright and breathing I believe.
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Old 6th Feb 2015, 20:35
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Breathing is optional.

EK is spending good money in advertising.

https://twitter.com/timmermansr/stat...77906506477568

There's also advertising in PPrune.

No word about the A380 tho.
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There is an ad on my blog as well (France). Still laughing.

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Dashman, if you had taken advice from this forum in any of the last 7+ yrs you would see nothing you stated is out of the ordinary. Funny how shiny big aircraft syndrome clouds judgement. Best you improve your research before your next move.
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When I had been interviewed in the past (another outfit) I asked the question,

"if I was selected, would I be standing on any toes or jumping the queue"?

One responded, why on earth would you be worried about that? Answer, I do have some sort of morals. Their response to my question told me all I needed to know.

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Nothing in my inbox, so they have not started yet.
Before you all get too excited, remember the thread started by an EK Effoh asking for airlines that hire experienced Effohs for captain positions?
And how many EK captains are applying for DEC positions elsewhere?

Supply and demand.
At the moment I have five airlines sending me emails.
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Would be interesting to find out if they were to offer the first few DEC positions to those individuals who passed the selection last time but fell short of course allocation due to changes in recruitment strategy.
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I had heard back in December that a 'small' number were coming from Qantas on leave without pay.

It just remains to be seen how many EK feel they need.
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DECs - It may have just gotten a lot worse

The funny part of the Hugh posters in Amsterdam is that they hang right outside the crew center of.. KLM.. Or should I say.. Air France Amsterdam base?? Probably trying to scoop up the pilots from Martinair who are so lovingly being cared for by their colleagues.. Or maybe FO's that look at 14yrs till Cmd with Transavia? Emirates still has the nose to sniff out any airline in trouble as to fill their ranks..
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