How many real flying hours per month at EK
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Agree with HTC
I am with Harry on this one. They do get better rosters on my fleet simply because they are super senior. But they do fly as much as the other FO's. I have heard however they are 70% of all sick calls. That I do believe. Rarely will a cadet put up with a midnight India in monsoons.
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OK, I finally got a clear answer on a different thread...
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...aa-do-you.html
"Those operators who cry foul over the uneven playing ground to be found in some airlines seven hours east of London may just have a bit more fuel for their fire. The regulator (GCAA) in the UAE, home to at least a couple of 'world class' operators, have elected to change the logging of flight time and duty.
Notably, any time spent resting in the bunk counts for precisely zero hours towards the 28 day and annual total flying hour limits (currently 100 and 900 block hours respectively.) Previously as operating crew, these bunk hours counted in full toward the limits, though as augmenting crew only 'stick' time counted. The limits will remain at 100 and 900 hours, but the new change ensures that neither operating nor augmenting pilots will log those resting hours.
For example, for the two sectors DXB-LAX-DXB, an actual block time of 31 hours gets recorded as approximately 17 hours only. The upshot being that more flights per month can be squeezed into the same 100hr limit, and more per year can be squeezed into the same 900hr limit."
http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...aa-do-you.html
"Those operators who cry foul over the uneven playing ground to be found in some airlines seven hours east of London may just have a bit more fuel for their fire. The regulator (GCAA) in the UAE, home to at least a couple of 'world class' operators, have elected to change the logging of flight time and duty.
Notably, any time spent resting in the bunk counts for precisely zero hours towards the 28 day and annual total flying hour limits (currently 100 and 900 block hours respectively.) Previously as operating crew, these bunk hours counted in full toward the limits, though as augmenting crew only 'stick' time counted. The limits will remain at 100 and 900 hours, but the new change ensures that neither operating nor augmenting pilots will log those resting hours.
For example, for the two sectors DXB-LAX-DXB, an actual block time of 31 hours gets recorded as approximately 17 hours only. The upshot being that more flights per month can be squeezed into the same 100hr limit, and more per year can be squeezed into the same 900hr limit."
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Gents, you've miss read the regulation, it states that:
The duration of the flight rest time is not to be included in the flight time cumulative limits, but will be included in the Flight Duty Period Duty Time for cumulative limits consideration.
The cumulative limits are:
(b) The maximum cumulative duty hours for Flight crew of an aeroplane shall not exceed;
(1) 55 hours in one week, but may be increased to 60 hours, when rostered duty covering a series of duty periods, once commenced, is subject to unforeseen delays.
(2) 95 hours in any 2 consecutive weeks, and;
(3) 190 hours in any 4 consecutive weeks.
(4) 2000 Hours in 12 consecutive months
It still counts towards the Absolute Limits on Flying Hours, so this intact actually suits us - it does away with factoring. We'll now have to work from blocks off to blocks on!!!
The duration of the flight rest time is not to be included in the flight time cumulative limits, but will be included in the Flight Duty Period Duty Time for cumulative limits consideration.
The cumulative limits are:
(b) The maximum cumulative duty hours for Flight crew of an aeroplane shall not exceed;
(1) 55 hours in one week, but may be increased to 60 hours, when rostered duty covering a series of duty periods, once commenced, is subject to unforeseen delays.
(2) 95 hours in any 2 consecutive weeks, and;
(3) 190 hours in any 4 consecutive weeks.
(4) 2000 Hours in 12 consecutive months
It still counts towards the Absolute Limits on Flying Hours, so this intact actually suits us - it does away with factoring. We'll now have to work from blocks off to blocks on!!!
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The way I understand their wording is that the GCAA is now separating
flight time cumulative limits and Flight Duty Period Time for cumulative limits consideration.
Meaning that you only get stick time credit towards your flight time limits
(100 hrs per month and 900 per year)
within the boundaries of the following duty periods (The maximum cumulative duty hours for Flight crew of an aeroplane shall not exceed blah blah blah)
Cumulative duty hours includes bunk and stick time. Cumulative flight time is just stick time towards absolute flying hours.
Soon we will have to subtract time in the toilet as well, please make a note on the VR.
flight time cumulative limits and Flight Duty Period Time for cumulative limits consideration.
Meaning that you only get stick time credit towards your flight time limits
(100 hrs per month and 900 per year)
within the boundaries of the following duty periods (The maximum cumulative duty hours for Flight crew of an aeroplane shall not exceed blah blah blah)
Cumulative duty hours includes bunk and stick time. Cumulative flight time is just stick time towards absolute flying hours.
Soon we will have to subtract time in the toilet as well, please make a note on the VR.
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100 hrs..l
Roster change .... My Turnaround was taken out , I was reaching 100hrs in last 28 days ....
CU instead ..... Stand By Sim support !!
Looking for plan B , that's the straw that break the camel back !
A Crash only will change things ..... Just questin of time !
CU instead ..... Stand By Sim support !!
Looking for plan B , that's the straw that break the camel back !
A Crash only will change things ..... Just questin of time !
