EK crewing levels coming home to roost?
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Covey--if you are interested --ALWAYS walk to the pointy end at the end of a flight. I'm always surprised by how few ask for a visit these day, kids especially.
As for crews causing pax issues-- I would say that is extremely rare. Usually if someone is sick (or calling in sick) they give good notice. The issue becomes if there are so many sick that they can't cover flights and that is a management/company issue not an individual issue.
I also find, at EK in general, the pilots are highly professional and as frustrated as they are with the company they don't take it out on the pax or other crew (always exceptions of course).
The thread started with a comment about grounded aircraft due to lack of crew. If that happens, it is company issue and not one that can be solved by pilots. With the amount we are flying today there is no room left to 'help' out. If there was, I'd say the vast majority WON'T help - they have been beaten to death.
As for crews causing pax issues-- I would say that is extremely rare. Usually if someone is sick (or calling in sick) they give good notice. The issue becomes if there are so many sick that they can't cover flights and that is a management/company issue not an individual issue.
I also find, at EK in general, the pilots are highly professional and as frustrated as they are with the company they don't take it out on the pax or other crew (always exceptions of course).
The thread started with a comment about grounded aircraft due to lack of crew. If that happens, it is company issue and not one that can be solved by pilots. With the amount we are flying today there is no room left to 'help' out. If there was, I'd say the vast majority WON'T help - they have been beaten to death.
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Covey,
We would love to give you a guided tour, but not allowed. We would love to take a picture with you and the family at the gate in the cockpit after the flight, not allowed. We would love to stand at the door and thank our customers, but too much paperwork, logbooks, voyage reports, cabin crew logs to sign, etc. So when you don't see the cockpit crew, it's not that we are not appreciative, there's just too much to do afterwards, and I doubt you want to wait around for us to finish our work and have a chat.
We would love to give you a guided tour, but not allowed. We would love to take a picture with you and the family at the gate in the cockpit after the flight, not allowed. We would love to stand at the door and thank our customers, but too much paperwork, logbooks, voyage reports, cabin crew logs to sign, etc. So when you don't see the cockpit crew, it's not that we are not appreciative, there's just too much to do afterwards, and I doubt you want to wait around for us to finish our work and have a chat.
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Would love to give you a guided tour this end, but I'm fatigued and will be catching up on loss of sleep.
Regards to your wife, listen to her advice, it is wise.
G'day and G'night...
Would love to give you a guided tour this end, but I'm fatigued and will be catching up on loss of sleep.
Regards to your wife, listen to her advice, it is wise.
G'day and G'night...
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TU,
When I last saw the Captain saying goodbye I was getting off a Stratocruiser!
You might have to Google what they were but an early A380 with 2 decks! Nothing is new!
I know you can't do it these days and that times have changed.
In any case if it had been a less than perfect landing he (sorry it always was him then) spent his time saying that the other pilot had been at the controls!
Good Luck One & All!
When I last saw the Captain saying goodbye I was getting off a Stratocruiser!
You might have to Google what they were but an early A380 with 2 decks! Nothing is new!
I know you can't do it these days and that times have changed.
In any case if it had been a less than perfect landing he (sorry it always was him then) spent his time saying that the other pilot had been at the controls!
Good Luck One & All!
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Convey,
I would have just liked the contract that I signed, and agreed to work under, be honoured. Nothing more, nothing less.
Even though it has not, I have always put my passengers first.
It is however, time to put my family and myself first. That's why I'm going home.
But be assured, right up to my last flight, I will always place my passengers first.
I would have just liked the contract that I signed, and agreed to work under, be honoured. Nothing more, nothing less.
Even though it has not, I have always put my passengers first.
It is however, time to put my family and myself first. That's why I'm going home.
But be assured, right up to my last flight, I will always place my passengers first.
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I would have just liked the contract that I signed, and agreed to work under, be honoured. Nothing more, nothing less.
If EK gave you a 10% payrise, would you say: No thanks, that is not in my contract?
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And as I posted this, I see that there now is a ad on PPRUNE inviting people to apply for first officer jobs with EK.
I thought we had hundreds of applications.
Now it gets more interesting...when you click on the link, it refers to the fleet status for 2012. So someone, in a hurried desperation, has put up an ad from 3 years ago.
I thought we had hundreds of applications.
Now it gets more interesting...when you click on the link, it refers to the fleet status for 2012. So someone, in a hurried desperation, has put up an ad from 3 years ago.
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I can see how many times somebody use as resource SENIORITY LIST ..... me as well, only 1 real source of true information (hope) ....
but, how long does it take to stop us to be allowed see this information .... it is not business sensitive???
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I did not even bother replying to him, Trader.
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To help out some of the less informed posters that are quoting class action, be aware that type of action is illegal and I really wouldn't go there.
UAE LABOR LAW
It makes an interesting read and offers protection in both directions to some degree.
UAE LABOR LAW
The Law covers all aspects of the employer-employee relationship (Chapter 12), including matters related to employment contracts, restrictions on the employment of juveniles and women, maintenance of records and files, wages, working hours, leave, safety and protection of employees, medical and social care, codes of discipline, termination of employment contracts, end of service benefits, compensation for occupational diseases, labour inspections, penalties and employment related accidents, injuries and death.
The UAE does not allow the formation of trade unions.
The UAE does not allow the formation of trade unions.
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The answer is no, Bringback. And talk to the guys who came here on the promise of a fast track command, only to see the offer withdrawn once the got here.
Besides that, there are many, many highly qualified FOs awaiting their turn for upgrade. I have not done any actual sums, but the current thinking seems to be, if you join now an upgrade will take at least 7 years.
Besides that, there are many, many highly qualified FOs awaiting their turn for upgrade. I have not done any actual sums, but the current thinking seems to be, if you join now an upgrade will take at least 7 years.
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