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Holiday cheer from your Medical Department

Old 31st Dec 2014, 20:59
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Mensaboy

I truly wish I had the honor to fly with you before u left

U speak wise words
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Old 1st Jan 2015, 06:34
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Mensa is completely right about the company / Dubai and it should serve as a warning to anyone considering this place as a carer option. The further insult is that it is not also that easy to leave when you are here. Any debt, property, schooling, bonds only serve as serious ties to this [email protected] hole.
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Old 1st Jan 2015, 08:14
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Agreed re EK and Dubai and Mensa's comments. I'm not a fan of WK but attacking him like Mensa did wasn't cool. It is a shame as Mensa was one of the few contributors here who could put together a well reasoned post. Attacking WK detracted from the disaster that EK has become.
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Old 1st Jan 2015, 10:38
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To get back on thread.

We are short of pilots and can therefore expect phone calls asking us to fly on days off. The logical response to such a request is to state that you are unable to help due to the new EK screening policy making agreeing to such a request a threat to your licence.
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Old 1st Jan 2015, 11:16
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Is the right answer. Let us treat them with the same dasdain that they treat us with. Maybe TCAS can fly as he is a "captain". Oh I forgot. He ain't type certified for anything in our fleet.
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Yes he is; you forgot the crew-bag

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Old 1st Jan 2015, 14:26
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Dear mensaboy,

Don't know you but I felt like saying something because I think we have the same (temperamental) sensibility.

Completely agree with you regarding Dubai (and EK). Even writing something about materialistic and superficial "culture" of Dubai and its impact on expatriates and locals.

Regarding your "attack": I respect people who are open and honest in their opinion on others. I like people who tell me in the face what they think of me instead of stabbing me in the back. So this "attack" of yours makes me see you as a sincere and clean-handed man.

Good luck in everything you do.

D.
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Old 1st Jan 2015, 15:31
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So Nikita 81, do you think it's acceptable behaviour to slander someone on these message boards if you have NEVER met them?

If you think that to be true then I pity you...
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Old 1st Jan 2015, 16:38
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So Nikita 81, do you think it's acceptable behaviour to slander someone on these message boards if you have NEVER met them?
No. But don't take it personally. We are all online avatars here. No one's real personality can be seen on the internet.

At least you got a chance to defend yourself and change his opinion. Still better than being stabbed in the back.

After losing my back in many stabbings I really learned to appreciate people who slander me openly. I even became friends with some of them.

Many things on this world would be better if people would just be honest to each other.
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Old 1st Jan 2015, 19:30
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Amen to that.
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Old 1st Jan 2015, 20:52
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If Dr Fi has in fact resigned you are all in much deeper shit than you were in yesterday.
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Old 2nd Jan 2015, 11:40
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...maybe good doc should check her pdf handout...seems booze is least of the problem there...from above pic crotch crickets maybe more relevant.. Happy New Year all !!!
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Old 2nd Jan 2015, 16:26
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Have to agree with flyonthewall.
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Old 2nd Jan 2015, 18:09
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Dr Fi is (was) one of the most honest Doctors in EK. IF? she has resigned then yet again Emirates have "enabled" an incredibly able and capable person to leave office.

The poisned Gnome was trying for that position in the past, as we all know, little people are angry spiteful people and seem to have an agenda to proove themselves with abuse of power.

If this rumour is true then we will all need a BMI of 15 and a height of 4ft 0 to appear normal (oh and of course about the booze, don't ask).

I sincerely hope that the comments and sentiments from some idiots here have not helped lead her to this "rumour" decision to quit!
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Old 2nd Jan 2015, 18:53
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Garbage. Any doc here who took the oath but still knowingly subscribed to the well-known system of lies, deception and manipulation is a part of the problem and should hang their head in shame. If you're afraid of a doctor worse than the VP then you're either a woos or a borderline medical case.

Rex, someone speaking his mind and suitability for cockpit service are two very different things. Saying someone shouldn't be working in an airliner because you disagree with his way of stating an opinion is a tad ignorant wouldn't you say? It seems to be a common response though.

Whitey, sorry but it's only slander if it's not true.

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Old 3rd Jan 2015, 04:08
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The Drs are not here for you they are here for the company, to do as the company says. It goes against every and all of their oath's. Sad but that come straight from the VP.
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Old 3rd Jan 2015, 05:14
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That's absolutely spot on, Fatty.
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There is a somewhat out of fashion term that was once the watchword of professionals (including Doctors of Medicine) and that word is 'integrity'.

Who (in their right mind?) would ever seek to be diagnosed and / or treated by a doctor in Dubai (and / or, come to that, anywhere in the Middle East)?! Geesh, even (and indeed especially so) the leaders of these nations (and senior VP's in various airlines too) regularly choose to fly overseas to (dare I say it) '1st world nations', when their own health is at stake. Basically they (i.e. the doctors here) are not trusted... go figure?!

My experience of doctors in Dubai is that they are far more interested in lining their pockets first, than in making any honest diagnosis, prognosis, and treatment. Indeed the typical first contact one has with their medical practice's will be with their insurance claims operative, i.e. the one whom checks that you're sufficiently well-insured before you can visit with a Doctor.

Wrt doctors here, it seems more about self-aggrandisement first and patient care second!
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Old 3rd Jan 2015, 07:47
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Your Majesty,

How right your are about "integrity." There are sooo many pilots bashing down the doors at EK after doing three man ULRs saying their integrity won't allow them to do this again and that they have reported EK to the FAA etc. Plenty of us have done India turnarounds exhausted. None of us ever drink before a flight. Shag one of the cc whilst we are away from our families. Etc. Personally, I've had enough of being fatigued. I am leaving after the school year. I put my money where my mouth is.

Please accept a little wisdom from somebody familiar with EK and the Clinic. I'm not a big fan of FR. But, she is a good lady and doctor. She is highly qualified. She was considered the best of a "bad" list of candidates for the job as Mr. Turner couldn't find someone with the relevant qualifications of having the right certficates and who bent over enough to take all the pilot and crew screwing for the lousy salary offered. It is (was) a second salary as her husband is a Captain. He (TS) has been quite dignified and not commented here. Well done Tim!!

FR fought for a lot of people. Believe me. If she has resigned (I hope she has for her own health) then that makes two Medical Depatment VPs who have resigned in around two years excluding AH who left to Aus. She was bullied by RT and others. No arguments.

I think that there has been around an 80% turnover in EK Clinic doctors (not to mention support staff) during my time here. Well done RT!! You bullied out people with integrity. AM left Family Medicine (due to bullying and the fact that she didn't want to compromise care) and now FR. Dr. KD also left due to having integrity and fought Mr. Turner over fatigue issues. The GCAA were the ones that brought in the alcohol thing. Not FR.

I don't think you will find many of us at EK who have a lot of bad things to say about the Drs at the Clinic. My wife and kids have had great care as have I. The dental service has been excellent, too. These people earn lousy money considering what they can earn outside.

Just as not all doctors have integrity, neither have some pilots. There are a number of good doctors here. You just have to know who.

Rant over. I'm off to find an A vs B thread or take on Flion for some Yank bashing

Happy New Year to all
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Ladies and Gents. I left EK five years ago. My final year there I almost met the company target of 900 hours. (Note the term target not limit).
Just added up my hours for 2014 and only pipped 300.
I cannot tell you how different I feel physically, mentally and emotionally.
Like hitting your head against the , you don't realise how much it hurts until you stop.
There are better options out there.
Good luck all.
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