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I personally find this very worrying
This is evidently not a GCAA requirement (yet)
Nothing being circulated at Air Arabia and to my knowledge flydubai either
One can only interpret this as another control abuse ... Anything published to employees of a company big as Ek should be scrutinized by a higher authority .. This would prevent any person with elevated intellectual abilities from becoming another office nazi
apologies if I sound furious but I have lived long enough in the region to have witnessed all sort of abuse and this is another reminder of the quality of managers spread across the region
This is evidently not a GCAA requirement (yet)
Nothing being circulated at Air Arabia and to my knowledge flydubai either
One can only interpret this as another control abuse ... Anything published to employees of a company big as Ek should be scrutinized by a higher authority .. This would prevent any person with elevated intellectual abilities from becoming another office nazi
apologies if I sound furious but I have lived long enough in the region to have witnessed all sort of abuse and this is another reminder of the quality of managers spread across the region
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Not saying it's right but...
Depending on how much one considers an "advisory" publication a requirement, it is a GCAA requirement and can be found in CAAP 10 Aeromedical. Go to Subpart G - Aviation Psychiatry, Paragraph 4 - Alcohol Screening Tests (or page 91 for those who want the easy route). It's more or less verbatim what was in the e-mail.
The CAAP was issued in September and took effect on November 1st of this year. One can only assume its being used to formulate the actual regulation that is coming into effect as per the e-mail.
It does say earlier on in the CAAP (page 30) that the indicators are less sensitive to intermittent binge drinking so there seems to be an upside...
Happy New Year everyone and go easy on the bubbles
Depending on how much one considers an "advisory" publication a requirement, it is a GCAA requirement and can be found in CAAP 10 Aeromedical. Go to Subpart G - Aviation Psychiatry, Paragraph 4 - Alcohol Screening Tests (or page 91 for those who want the easy route). It's more or less verbatim what was in the e-mail.
The CAAP was issued in September and took effect on November 1st of this year. One can only assume its being used to formulate the actual regulation that is coming into effect as per the e-mail.
It does say earlier on in the CAAP (page 30) that the indicators are less sensitive to intermittent binge drinking so there seems to be an upside...
Happy New Year everyone and go easy on the bubbles
Ok like I said above ....I'm so glad I have resigned. I can't wait to take the dogs for walk on the beach, and have a beer as I watch them.....good bye every one..and good luck
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Having a beer or wine greater than 12 hours prior to duty is perfectly acceptable. It's been this way for many many years and 12 hours is plenty of time for the body to metabolize. Having a round of shooters just over the 12 hour limit and/or drinking excessively has always and will always be a problem. Don't be paranoid.
I certainly don't agree with this but 99% of us don't need to worry at all - it's those that drink daily and excessively.
I certainly don't agree with this but 99% of us don't need to worry at all - it's those that drink daily and excessively.
Alcohol is there for social gatherings and it is desirable to use it wisely. A glass or two are enough to have fun.
Problem is that Emirates do want to control private lives of their employees. I know a cabin crew who got sick, so he was called for a meeting and accused of "clubbing and drinking" and having hangover (that guy resigned soon after that and went for a medical treatment as he had some rare disease).
It's not an unusual thing for ground staff to come to work straight from parties and celebrations. They have no holidays and no weekends, working 12 hours daily and almost no social lives whatsoever. But they just have to tag bags ans smile. If they try to actually do their job and present first security check point and to care who is boarding planes, they will be discouraged or punished. It's a very different situation for pilots and cabin crews. At least it should be.
This rule would pass much easier if the company would just give its employees enough days off to socialize, go to clubbing, go out, drink with friends. But when employees don't have that, many anomalies will show up. Especially in bad working conditions and overall staff dissatisfaction. So, it's just another unwise pressure (probably religiously motivated) which will come back to hit the management in the head.
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And this "3rd party notifications for suspected drug or alcohol misuse" really opens up some space for suspicious activities and abuse.
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I understand FR has now resigned her position. My guess is her replacement won't be good for the medical department or crew.
'Good-bye Tomorrow' to be the new catch phrase?!
'Good-bye Tomorrow' to be the new catch phrase?!
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I think you should start drinking. Then you'd have an excuse for being patently unhinged.
Thanks for making my year with "I no longer work for Emirates" though, that news is far more magical than anything I got for Christmas.
Thanks for making my year with "I no longer work for Emirates" though, that news is far more magical than anything I got for Christmas.
And I thought "mensa" somehow implied intelligence...
Mensachild- What a terrible slanderous post. I hope WhiteKnight has the dignity not to respond to you. I echo Dropp, in stating I am glad you no longer work for EK. You have no place in any flight deck in any airline.
I sincerely wish you all the best for the future though and have a wonderful 2015.
I sincerely wish you all the best for the future though and have a wonderful 2015.
