Dubai Director: Callsign Only...
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The Director knows who he is .... I like it.
Unlike us pilots that have trouble remembering the call sign, when asked for it by the guy on the transport desk.
ATC have the best job, they get to talk to pilots all day
Unlike us pilots that have trouble remembering the call sign, when asked for it by the guy on the transport desk.
ATC have the best job, they get to talk to pilots all day
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ICAO Annex 10 Radiotelephony Procedures quite clearly states that the station be first identified.
Google the document & see 5.2.1.6 Composition of messages.
If you read further, it also states you may omit the location of the station if no doubt exists.
So therefore:
"Director, Emirates 226" would be the correct phraseology if being told "Callsign only"
If your in an A380 then " Director, 'The' Emirates 2 Super" .....lol
Google the document & see 5.2.1.6 Composition of messages.
If you read further, it also states you may omit the location of the station if no doubt exists.
So therefore:
"Director, Emirates 226" would be the correct phraseology if being told "Callsign only"
If your in an A380 then " Director, 'The' Emirates 2 Super" .....lol
Last edited by Bypass ratio; 4th Dec 2014 at 05:50.
Bypass Ratio is correct.
Plus saying the station name first, minimises the confusion time when pilots don't switch the frequency by error, i.e. they dial in 127.9 but don't transfer from 124.9
Errors occur - how many times have you heard people calling dnata on ATC freq for example.
Plus saying the station name first, minimises the confusion time when pilots don't switch the frequency by error, i.e. they dial in 127.9 but don't transfer from 124.9
Errors occur - how many times have you heard people calling dnata on ATC freq for example.
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If the controller really wanted you to say both callsigns, he would say that, as in plural, however what I hear they say is: Call 127.9 with callsign only, which is singular.
I reckon that is just mine, to comply with the original purpose of brevity. After all isn't that a 'clearance' not to say all the other (ICAO) stuff?
I think that you can say Merry Christmas, or anything else you like AFTER the director calls you back.
I usually do not pull out all the legal books when I am in busy airspace, I usually just do what I'm told.
I reckon that is just mine, to comply with the original purpose of brevity. After all isn't that a 'clearance' not to say all the other (ICAO) stuff?
I think that you can say Merry Christmas, or anything else you like AFTER the director calls you back.
I usually do not pull out all the legal books when I am in busy airspace, I usually just do what I'm told.
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Dubai Director: Callsign Only...
It's pedantic as hell, I know, but one could argue that the instruction to "contact director..." implies just that. State station name "Director" as you would with any other instruction to contact the next station. And then state call-sign only.
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Fingerprints, callsigns, flight bags, toilet paper, sock color, hat size, FPV switch, slant range, with all these super important issues in your heads, how do you even manage to get the aircraft off the ground?
Lmao..!
Thankyou Mana...needed that.
Lmao..!
Thankyou Mana...needed that.
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I don't think that has anything to do with it Glo, this thread has just gone from the ridiculous to the sublime. Sometimes posters even debate the use of punctuation here...
Lets discuss the REALLY IMPORTANT topics like how much better/worse the 777 is compared to the A380 (or "Dugong" for those who don't know what callsign only means!)
Lets discuss the REALLY IMPORTANT topics like how much better/worse the 777 is compared to the A380 (or "Dugong" for those who don't know what callsign only means!)
