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EK Company Survey
Hi All,
I would normally not post something like this, but I actually think it is worth while. It probably went unnoticed to many and I almost deleted it myself, but the HR department here at EK sent out a survey in an email entitled "Add your colors to the mix" asking for our opinions (company wide) on what we think of working for EK. Think of it what you want, but I filled it out (takes about 3 minutes). Many of us get on here and complain about nearly everything and start great rumors and such. However, complaining on this website isn't going to change anything accept make us feel better to have a place to vent and laugh. This is very important, but, it wouldn't hurt to vent towards the company, and in fact they have asked us to do so and let them know how we feel.
They say its confidential and to be honest I don't care if it is or isn't. You can say what you want about it and how it may or may not be a waste of time because they aren't going to listen anyways. What it does do though, should we get ourselves and enough of our colleagues to actually take the 3 minutes to fill it out, is send a message about what people really think. I am not saying to put a good or bad response, that is for you to decide. I am however recommending to at least have a look and take the 3 minutes to fill it out.
All opinions aside, I quite enjoyed taking the 3 minutes to send my frustrations. Will they look at it, probably not, is it confidential, probably not, will it change anything, probably not. More importantly, will it hurt anything by filling it out, probably not, and you just never know. Things did change with the "special tickets" when thousands of us blasted them on that. Who knows, maybe this will do something too.
I would normally not post something like this, but I actually think it is worth while. It probably went unnoticed to many and I almost deleted it myself, but the HR department here at EK sent out a survey in an email entitled "Add your colors to the mix" asking for our opinions (company wide) on what we think of working for EK. Think of it what you want, but I filled it out (takes about 3 minutes). Many of us get on here and complain about nearly everything and start great rumors and such. However, complaining on this website isn't going to change anything accept make us feel better to have a place to vent and laugh. This is very important, but, it wouldn't hurt to vent towards the company, and in fact they have asked us to do so and let them know how we feel.
They say its confidential and to be honest I don't care if it is or isn't. You can say what you want about it and how it may or may not be a waste of time because they aren't going to listen anyways. What it does do though, should we get ourselves and enough of our colleagues to actually take the 3 minutes to fill it out, is send a message about what people really think. I am not saying to put a good or bad response, that is for you to decide. I am however recommending to at least have a look and take the 3 minutes to fill it out.
All opinions aside, I quite enjoyed taking the 3 minutes to send my frustrations. Will they look at it, probably not, is it confidential, probably not, will it change anything, probably not. More importantly, will it hurt anything by filling it out, probably not, and you just never know. Things did change with the "special tickets" when thousands of us blasted them on that. Who knows, maybe this will do something too.
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^^ What he said. I had deleted the e mail myself Habibis, as I had thought it was some usual guff from HR, about some new VP Toilet soap, or similar.
Quite nice to provide "Feedback". Maybe they will do nothing with it. Maybe, just maybe someone will wake up. Maybe not
Worth the 3 mins, venting
SyB
Quite nice to provide "Feedback". Maybe they will do nothing with it. Maybe, just maybe someone will wake up. Maybe not
Worth the 3 mins, venting
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About ten years ago I filled out one of those training feedback surveys they always ask you for.
Two years later it came back, "deleted. unread". lol...
So you do what you want but that's it for me on any kind of survey here forever.
And sorry, but you're naive to even question whether or not it's confidential. Nothing here is.
Two years later it came back, "deleted. unread". lol...
So you do what you want but that's it for me on any kind of survey here forever.
And sorry, but you're naive to even question whether or not it's confidential. Nothing here is.
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Here is the reason for the survey
This is why. I guess His Highness got wind of it and wanted background info.
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3 minutes.......what have you got to lose? If you fill out the form along with 3700 pilots and the same themes are present, the Company may make changes. If 3700 pilots take your same viewpoint, nothing will change. That's guaranteed! 10 years ago, you could buy a 5 bedroom house in the Ranches for around 1.6 million. Let's try to move forward rather than forever complain about the past eh?
As for your statement about nothing being confidential, the EAC is and always has been. I know of several colleagues that've used it without any questions from fleet.
3 minutes.......what have you got to lose? If you fill out the form along with 3700 pilots and the same themes are present, the Company may make changes. If 3700 pilots take your same viewpoint, nothing will change. That's guaranteed! 10 years ago, you could buy a 5 bedroom house in the Ranches for around 1.6 million. Let's try to move forward rather than forever complain about the past eh?
As for your statement about nothing being confidential, the EAC is and always has been. I know of several colleagues that've used it without any questions from fleet.
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found it in the trash.
That will give you the first idea of what I think at the moment.
I Filled it in. I encourage every one to do the same. Lets see if the mountain of "disagree" do actually make some changes happen
J
That will give you the first idea of what I think at the moment.
I Filled it in. I encourage every one to do the same. Lets see if the mountain of "disagree" do actually make some changes happen
J
The main purpose of any employee survey is to keep a team of people employed in HR, complete with at least one manager and usually a director overseeing things. They are paid a bonus depending on the number of replies they receive, not what action is taken based on the feed-back.
So there you are; congratulations for keeping useless HR people in beer and sandwiches, whilst ensuring they get a bonus.
So there you are; congratulations for keeping useless HR people in beer and sandwiches, whilst ensuring they get a bonus.
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HR bonus based on the number of survey returns? Really? I suppose you also started the A380 wing crack rumour doing the rounds. No known permanent fix and a shelf life of only 10 years before being grounded. Do you suppose that the Airbus wing design engineers will also get a bonus as the Airlines will have to replace their aircraft sooner?
Harry
HR bonus based on the number of survey returns? Really? I suppose you also started the A380 wing crack rumour doing the rounds. No known permanent fix and a shelf life of only 10 years before being grounded. Do you suppose that the Airbus wing design engineers will also get a bonus as the Airlines will have to replace their aircraft sooner?
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Harry
Nope, never been part of the wing crack rumor mill. I am, however, involved with HR and the handling of employee opinion surveys, and have been so in 3 different companies as a fairly senior manager. The employees directly involved with these surveys, i.e. HR deadweight, will have part of their bonus tied to the respondent rate.
Nope, never been part of the wing crack rumor mill. I am, however, involved with HR and the handling of employee opinion surveys, and have been so in 3 different companies as a fairly senior manager. The employees directly involved with these surveys, i.e. HR deadweight, will have part of their bonus tied to the respondent rate.
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I think you're all being a bit harsh on SMT.
I for one think we should all boycott this survey on the off chance that someone is indeed getting a bonus for the response rate.
I'm sure EK has set up this survey, with no intention of acting on it, but will instead pay out a hefty bonus to some clever employee because he or she got a big response to the survey...that they won't be using.
So let's do nothing...just in case.
I for one think we should all boycott this survey on the off chance that someone is indeed getting a bonus for the response rate.
I'm sure EK has set up this survey, with no intention of acting on it, but will instead pay out a hefty bonus to some clever employee because he or she got a big response to the survey...that they won't be using.
So let's do nothing...just in case.
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I heard the survey was in fact a subliminal message delivery system.
While you fill it out you are being bombarded with a discreet message bringing you further in line with management expectations.
Oh and when you go out, don't forget your tin hat.
J
While you fill it out you are being bombarded with a discreet message bringing you further in line with management expectations.
Oh and when you go out, don't forget your tin hat.
J
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I had trashed it too.
I talked about:
Lack of respect from senior management
always hearing "if you don't like it you can leave"
cost neutral proposals denied on the whim of senior managers
the HR manual being an illusion
no investing in employees to motivate them
I have never used "strongly disagree" so often in any survey
I talked about:
Lack of respect from senior management
always hearing "if you don't like it you can leave"
cost neutral proposals denied on the whim of senior managers
the HR manual being an illusion
no investing in employees to motivate them
I have never used "strongly disagree" so often in any survey
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CC got the same survey. Unfortunately they are sh
t scared to say anything due to management by fear and terror. So nothing will happen/change because we pilots are not enough in numbers. Wishing to be proven wrong though...
t scared to say anything due to management by fear and terror. So nothing will happen/change because we pilots are not enough in numbers. Wishing to be proven wrong though...
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Just filled it out too. My cynical side says it won't effect any change because at the end of the day, they don't really give a s&@t.
But maybe....
I just know for certain, whining on here hasn't helped yet.
But maybe....
I just know for certain, whining on here hasn't helped yet.