Are all pilots @ EK so unhappy?
Is there any truth to the rumour that of the 8 days off a month that you are entitled to at EK, a few can be given while you are on a day off on duty outside of Dubai, i.e. outstation?
But in practice you get at least 8 days off in Dubai, and usually more.
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From what I see...... Pilots are unhappy in all the Airlines ! 
Hence proved !
There is no good Airline in the world
Probably just in a fairy tale....
Hence proved !
There is no good Airline in the world
Probably just in a fairy tale....
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Bushbaby. Good points. EK Clinic now cares for around 17300 Cabin Crew 4000 or so Pilots, Numerous managers and dependents. Of course, some have gone out of the clinic but the numbers increase. Morale is at rock bottom and is drilling down further. There is one SVP, qualified as a nurse (but doesn't practice). 3VPs (rumours of a fourth for 3 people) A Clinic Operations Manager (a non practicing Nurse), Two senior administrators. All for around 180 staff. Please note that the clinic doesn't generate income for EK.
Oh, I forgot. If you consider everything with part timers and others who do speciality clinics, they are around 22 doctors. A senior AME just got poached for double the money at EY. The docs were informed (via a corporate comms mail) of the two new docs joining
The management of the clinic are amazing communicators. Not.
Oh, I forgot. If you consider everything with part timers and others who do speciality clinics, they are around 22 doctors. A senior AME just got poached for double the money at EY. The docs were informed (via a corporate comms mail) of the two new docs joining
The management of the clinic are amazing communicators. Not.
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Bushbaby. Good points. EK Clinic now cares for around 17300 Cabin Crew 4000 or so Pilots, Numerous managers and dependents. Of course, some have gone out of the clinic but the numbers increase. Morale is at rock bottom and is drilling down further. There is one SVP, qualified as a nurse (but doesn't practice). 3VPs (rumours of a fourth for 3 people) A Clinic Operations Manager (a non practicing Nurse), Two senior administrators. All for around 180 staff. Please note that the clinic doesn't generate income for EK.
Oh, I forgot. If you consider everything with part timers and others who do speciality clinics, they are around 22 doctors. A senior AME just got poached for double the money at EY. The docs were informed (via a corporate comms mail) of the two new docs joining
The management of the clinic are amazing communicators. Not.
Oh, I forgot. If you consider everything with part timers and others who do speciality clinics, they are around 22 doctors. A senior AME just got poached for double the money at EY. The docs were informed (via a corporate comms mail) of the two new docs joining
The management of the clinic are amazing communicators. Not.
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White Knight I do believe you are full of manure. You said everyone you come across is happy and you probably believe that. You also said you don't know any Americans that are leaving. 13 pilots left the company last month. I have moved up 36 positions this year alone and I don't know how many pilots left junior to me. Every American I have talked to have their applications in at US majors. If you tell yourself you are happy over and over you will not notice how things have detoriated at Emirates and that might be a good thing for you. I prefer to be a realist.
Gosh Cerbus, I didn't realise how junior you are... Going up 36 places!!! Wow! I must be far more senior 'cos my number hasn't risen by more than about 15... And no, I'm not full of manure, just say how it is!!!! Not EVERY American I'VE flown with is looking to head Stateside... But then again, JD fleet looking to do all of the sh1t flying, can't blame your bum-chums...
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There is finally a bad time to join EK?
Because seems to be a bad place to work now, all the people writing in that forum hate the company, the schedule, the planes, the salary, the accommodation, the transport,...
Because seems to be a bad place to work now, all the people writing in that forum hate the company, the schedule, the planes, the salary, the accommodation, the transport,...
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Oscar84 do not read and believe everything you see here...
Most pilots don't bother with pprune.. I am a lurker mostly myself but I have decided to write something of my personal experience.
I am about 4 years in EK and mostly very happy. Been on the littlebus for 2 years now and another 2 on the fatbus.
It always depends on where you are coming from I suppose but for me this the best job that I could have..
Rosters on the fatbus are really good and paywise I get 3 times more than before..
I really dislike the negative atmosphere of pprune but trust me not everybody is like this..
Sure about 50% of the people I fly with have something negative to say about the company but its not all that bad..
I always compare from back home and I still think its a great company to work for..
As for people leaving about 200+ have left in my 4 years..
Sure it might not be the glorious golden years of the past but I have never experienced them in the first place so I cant compare...
Most pilots don't bother with pprune.. I am a lurker mostly myself but I have decided to write something of my personal experience.
I am about 4 years in EK and mostly very happy. Been on the littlebus for 2 years now and another 2 on the fatbus.
It always depends on where you are coming from I suppose but for me this the best job that I could have..
Rosters on the fatbus are really good and paywise I get 3 times more than before..
I really dislike the negative atmosphere of pprune but trust me not everybody is like this..
Sure about 50% of the people I fly with have something negative to say about the company but its not all that bad..
I always compare from back home and I still think its a great company to work for..
As for people leaving about 200+ have left in my 4 years..
Sure it might not be the glorious golden years of the past but I have never experienced them in the first place so I cant compare...
Where has better TandC's?
The thing is the bulk of this airlines crew are refugees from failed/failing and LC carriers, through timing/geography/personality or whatever they didn't get into what's left of the 'proper' airlines with the 'better Ts & Cs'. Apart from the US market it's too late for them now.
However this airline likes to promote itself as a serious rival to the 'real' airlines. As an employer it is not.
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Actually montencee it wasnt pay to fly but I was getting about the same as a GR2.... Atleast they payed for the type ratings 
It mattered not.. it was the experience i needed for EK to open its doors to me which is all that counted...
It mattered not.. it was the experience i needed for EK to open its doors to me which is all that counted...
I think all new joiners should go to the 330, and then progress from there. But what the hey, seniority, what's that mean?
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Oscar you don't understand the way EK recruitment works. There are no options, they tell you which fleet you are going on and you take it or leave it (hot tip- if it is the A330, leave it). They do hire directly onto the A380 if you meet minimum Airbus experience requirements. Recently they have had trouble finding people who are that experienced so have been hiring onto the A330 and moving people across. They hate doing that as it costs them more money but at least it respects seniority a little.