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'Addition' to the EK uniform

Old 21st Jul 2014, 09:49
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Rumour has it that the locals, amongst others, are refusing to use Stealey's Wheels because they are adorned with crosses.

Fix this one Al.
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Old 21st Jul 2014, 10:17
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It looks to me like it's more of a plus sign than a cross.
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Old 21st Jul 2014, 10:45
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1st of August ! Did we receive this from feet management or some one in Uniform store that mandate to use the bag !!!
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Old 21st Jul 2014, 12:38
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Did we receive this from feet management
Tell me it isn't so. Are they hoping to issue compulsory socks and shoes too?
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Old 21st Jul 2014, 16:21
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Just to answer the OP. Yes, we have to use company bag at QR.
Ofcourse you have people not doing so, but according to the "rules", we should be using company FD bag.
Seems like EK isn't a much better place than QR lately. Minus the fact that living in Dubai beats the hell out of Doha anyway.

My family seem to love it anyway.
Happy wife happy life.
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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 06:01
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It's the Swiss cross, not a Christian cross.

The rumour I heard was the objection was so strong they were going to replace ALL the flight bags but it seems to me if this were true they would not have just issued a notice that use of the bag is mandatory beginning August 1st.

Then again, ya never know here.

Personally I like the bag. It's not a raise but it's a good, well designed, well made flight bag.
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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 12:31
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It's not a flight bag, it is a laptop bag for a traveling salesman!

Since when has a flight bag come with a compartment for your clothes?

And have you tried to get anything out of the "office" compartments while in your seat?

I would have hoped that a serving pilot would have been involved in the selection of this bag, instead it appears that those responsible have never sat in one of our aluminum tubes for 8 hours at a stretch so have no clue as to what makes for a decent flight bag.

What do you carry, as a line pilot? Your licence and test card, a medical paper, a passport and maybe a spare pair of glasses in addition to your sunglasses. Over and above that, the nice to haves include a clipboard and maybe an illicit iPad! Quite frankly, anything bigger than a small laptop bag is overkill. This "flight bag" is not just overkill, it's a downright massacre!

Yes, I have emailed the bosses, I await their reply with a total lack of anticipation.
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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 12:44
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It was 'flight tested' but whatever the feedback was made no difference. TCAS had already made his decision. The trial was an attempt to show that somebody actually gave a damn.
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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 14:05
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I just don't get it. Maybe am missing something as always what do u guys carry in your bag ? I have seen enough flight crew dragging the flight/clothes bag full and it's almost bursting at the seams approaching rugby ball proportion with loads of zippers and crosses !

Besides the licence, clipboard, "illicit" iPad/13"/15" laptop, wallet, mobile and a book on the mating habits of Bonobo monkies, i cannot seem to fill up my old bag which is way smaller than the new bag. And the odd EK pilot fills up their bag. What's in your bag ? Olive oil ?

AND apparently some people actually "quite like" the new bag. What's to like ? And yes t makes us look like travelling salesman ! It's not free FYI

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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 15:09
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Precious little room for ones magic box.....
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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 15:57
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It's not free?
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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 22:18
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Stealey's wheelies!
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Old 23rd Jul 2014, 07:15
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This bag just doesn't fit on the 777 flight deck especially during ULR flights when we can have four of these on the flight deck plus two extra nav bags.

In the case where we dont have an efb 2 I prefer to have the nav bag beside me which means the company issued flight bag needs to be somewhere out of reach.... how I miss my own smaller flight bag.

This is just a stupid move by the company.
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Old 23rd Jul 2014, 08:15
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You could just follow my example.

Take out all the silly inserts, dividers the just pop you older, small nav bag inside. When you get onto the aircraft dispense with the outer bag into the closet until the end of the flight.

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Old 23rd Jul 2014, 18:36
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The bag is fine imho, though the handle is a touch on the short side for us taller specimens !

What does press my puzzle muscle is why TCAS is so obsessed with rolling luggage as opposed to the constant rostering into the fatigue inducing 18-30 hr rest period.

Ah well "Hello Tomorrow!" as the dawn rises for another night burning holes in the sky!
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Old 23rd Jul 2014, 20:05
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4 pages of comments on a flight bag

surely there are worse things to moan about
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Old 25th Jul 2014, 08:41
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As I said before:

Its pretty simple guys, just don't use the stupid thing!!!
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Old 25th Jul 2014, 18:29
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Who cares just use the stupid thing and stop bitching about, it s a bag get over it.
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Old 25th Jul 2014, 20:03
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I think the UAE pilots at EK have every right to protest over the cross on the new flight bag....
The Swiss cross was a gift from the pope for the Swiss guard protecting the Vatican in Rome.
The Swiss guard still protect the Vatican to this day.
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Old 26th Jul 2014, 05:26
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You are right with the Swiss Guards at the Vatican. However, the Swiss Cross (which is a Greek Cross in shape) has nothing to do with this. It is in use since around 1340 and the Swiss Guards have been around since early 1500...

But this just as a side note...
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