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EK Staff Travel- What a Joke

Old 21st May 2014, 04:54
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EK Staff Travel- What a Joke

What a joke EK staff travel is.
Looking at a destination that has 5 flights per day. The estimated load on one of them is 75/19/3.... guess how many tickets are available for staff to purchase,
0/0/0
Anyone who is thinking about coming here and making the most of this wonderful benefit available to you, Think again.
These new special tickets have destroyed another of our benefits. We as staff cannot purchase tickets, but 75000 employees can now give tickets to their friends.
As mentioned before......What a joke.

Rant over

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Old 21st May 2014, 05:12
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You must be new. It's almost always that way. Just buy a CatC ticket and waitlist yourself. Then closer to the flight it will be confirmed. No need for a rant just know the system.
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Old 21st May 2014, 07:31
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Originally Posted by vfenext
You must be new. It's almost always that way. Just buy a CatC ticket and waitlist yourself. Then closer to the flight it will be confirmed. No need for a rant just know the system.
New or not, the system is flawed. The whole purpose with Cat C is to get a confirmed seat, not to wait for a waitlist that might get through. With only one ALT and impossible to get all leave in one go you need to be able to get confirmed seats in advance.
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Old 21st May 2014, 07:57
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Not new. Been here a few already. When I was new I could book confirmed tickets for holidays. Now. It's impossible. Even with the prediction showing a flight as less than half full.
If you think things haven't changed you are mistaken.

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Old 21st May 2014, 08:37
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Keep posting information like that and none of us will have any travel. Clever, not.
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Old 21st May 2014, 08:38
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Ek.... Give us our jumpseats back.... It's time to reconsider...
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Old 21st May 2014, 10:44
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Myekppa,

I am sorry, but you lost me after the word "keep"

What company secrets have I divulged to the general public here?

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Old 21st May 2014, 11:57
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I know the benefit of a confirmed seat and the comfort it brings, but with loads like that, just buy a Cat A, keep the money in your pocket instead of giving it to EK, and you will still get on. I'm not trying to be insulting, just hate to see you throw money into EK's pocket buying a CAT C when you would have no issues on a Cat A if loads on the surrounding flights to that one are even remotely close. Cat C waitlisted really only gives you better priority to a Cat A, that's it. I'm aware of the possibilities of freight load restricting a plane and the fact we are carrying enough extra fuel for single runways ops to power half the continent of Africa for a year, but with those numbers, you should still have no issues getting on with a Cat A.


Oh, and yes, the system is flawed and in my opinion (which is only my opinion) we have the amongst the worst staff travel benefits in the industry. NO company should make money they way EK do off the backs of their employees for staff travel!!!! The amount we pay for staff travel, even a Cat A, is a disgrace. I don't usually like putting opinions on here, but this is one that I believe is a true shame about EK. Sorry for the rant.
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Old 21st May 2014, 12:38
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I lost all faith and respect in our staff travel system after a friend from another airline travelled long distance on a sub load ticket with us and after comparing fares, it became apparent that he paid less than we would do to fly on our own aircraft. Also due to the incompetence of our staff travel department, we don't have a reciprocal staff travel agreement with the airline that my friend works for. They are willing to embrace us with open arms and offer us the same (after I contacted them to check) but no Najms for guessing where the trouble is here!

The recent fare rise was nothing short of a farce with clear favouritism being given to a handful of Indian destinations which were re grouped into a lower fare category due to 'extra competition'. That 'excuse' is laughable and quite frankly... that whole episode stinks!

We as staff cannot purchase tickets, but 75000 employees can now give tickets to their friends.
Special Ticket availability is the same for Cat C, so it is not even better. If you can't book a Cat C then you can't book a Special Ticket.

I can't remember the last time I bought a Cat C for my own use. If they make seats available then you are 99.9% assured of getting on using a Cat A anyway.

So now I generally avoid using EK at all costs for staff travel and ideally use airlines that use myIDTravel for reservations, as I know my money goes directly to the airline I fly with and not through TRIPS.

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Old 21st May 2014, 14:07
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My other half is a customer service agent. If you think crews get treated badly imagine how the lower grades have it!
From what I can see the lower/middle management needs rodding out. I enjoy working in a diverse environment, but unfortunately it appears to me that the cast system is alive and well.
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Old 21st May 2014, 15:03
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At yesterday's management brief at recurrent, the lady from HR was asked about staff travel. One question was about the possibility of getting 2 ALTs per year since no one can get 42 days off in one block. The other question was from a guy from the States who was saying it's pretty much impossible to get seats on US flights so can something be done about that. The answer, in short, was "We will only do something if it benefits Emirates and giving employees seats will not benefit us".

So there you have it.
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So, it would be called a Bi-Annual Leave Ticket? I can imagine the looks in class if that was actually said, or in that kind of tone. Getting back to the States is very difficult, almost have to go through Frankfurt, or somewhere else. We had a weight restricted 380 out of the west coast, with less than 150 people on the flight. That doesn't help either.
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There is plenty of crap written on this forum but to say there was a weight restricted 380 from LA with 150 people is up there with the worst of it. If you are going to post at least post something not so absurd. The last LA to DXB I did we had 490 pax with a 6 tonne under load. I guess you don't fly the 380?
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I kid you not. I wish I had the information for you. The flight was very open, and was told at the ticket counter it was weight restricted. I said the flight is wide open, and was told that unfortunately, the 43 non revs and additional passengers will not be getting on due to weight issues. Not sure if it was a MEL, fuel, or a number of other things, and I was a bit surprised. Sorry to hurt your feelings.
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Old 21st May 2014, 16:02
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Please don't let this thread get bogged down in the usual A vs B. Staff travel is becoming more and more of an issue. Especially with the attempted revenue generation on the "special tickets" Potential new joiners and old hands alike must be made aware of the latest non KY coated policies from the company.

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Old 22nd May 2014, 00:03
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Originally Posted by pilotrob23
We had a weight restricted 380 out of the west coast, with less than 150 people on the flight
Total

And

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bollocks...
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Old 22nd May 2014, 00:13
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And just to confirm......


TODAY'S LOAD LAX-DXB 14/76/396. Out of 14/76/396 seats... That's what I call a full house!!!

You Boeing jocks need to see the light and feel the love

To add; 2 staff accepted in Business class so only 74 Hi-Rev pax up there...

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Old 22nd May 2014, 03:57
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15 years ago my friend from virgin paid less for a EK biz ticket than I did as an EK employee, LH was the same.
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Old 22nd May 2014, 04:05
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The lack of maturity on some of these posts defies belief.

There's already been legal action thru these forums by another airline, and while I don't give two hoots for your welfare, stop dragging my benefits thru the mud.

Some of us (the majority) don't have a gripe with what we have and I'd like to see the benefits (as opposed to contractual obligations) retained.

The reality is, the airline will make an example out of someone before that. Good luck to them.
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Old 22nd May 2014, 04:12
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Probably more appropriate for this discussion to be moved to the Emirates forum?
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