DXB in Fog

[BDiONU]

Originally Posted by mrfancypants

You think it wouldnt be used in LVO if it worked, thats one of its primary purposes???

Allied to this is the upgrade of the Southern runway to CAT IIIB, it's only CAT I currently, which is one reason it's closed during LVO. We are working on continuing dependant runway operations during LVO's, irrespective of the AFLCMS upgrade.

[H.El.Shafey]

it's only CAT I currently, which is one reason it's closed during LVO.

my understanding is that CAT I. RUNWAY could be used for departure
as long as there is RVR, runway edge lights, center lights, and markings?

[checcker10]

It Happens Every Year

What's all the fuss about.
I've been here 'a while' and it happens every year. Same,Same Capt wobble wooble!

One day, big disaster, A.F.U,lots of steam from the HQ ,committees ,meetings,conference calls,special SVP position blah blah, then they somehow they forget till next year.
And blow me down, same thing happens and hey presto the fog comes along.
If the drivers and ATC made this repetitive mistake year after year they'd be long gone.
Just each year seems worse, cause ,guess what, lots more planes, no where to park, land blah blah.
Only thing to solve this, finish that place down the road and let's all shift there.

If you skate on thin ice EK then eventually you'll fall thru!

Just keep an eye on OMAA forcast. More reliable than our 24 late DXB one!

[Fromagio]

If it's foggy in Birmingham doesn't mean it'll be foggy at Heathrow so using OMAA as an indicator for fog in OMDB is not going to be accurate.
I've been told that OMDW has been built in an area that suffers from the most occurrences of fog in the whole of the UAE!! Now why doesn't that surprise me!!?!

[Gulfstreamaviator]

FOG rolls from AA past DW to DXB

It runs up the coast and can be most spectacular to watch, late evening, as you drive SZR from AA to the North.

The topo between BHX and LHR are quite different, and many obstructions in the way.

glf

[BDiONU]

Originally Posted by H.El.Shafey

my understanding is that CAT I. RUNWAY could be used for departure as long as there is RVR, runway edge lights, center lights, and markings?

But the aerodrome manoeuvring area has no procedures, lighting, entry/exit protection, stopbars etc. for dependant runway operations. Since the tenerife and other incidents regulators are very twitchy about crossing live runways during LVOs. The work is being done to get to dependant runways, but not likely to be ready until next fog season.

[Airmann]

I've been told that OMDW has been built in an area that suffers from the most occurrences of fog in the whole of the UAE!! Now why doesn't that surprise me!!?!

That night before the fog rolled into DXB, I was shocked at seeing that DBW was already 100m in FG while DXB was still reporting 8K+ . DXB didn't see the fog until around 2-3 hours later


METAR OMDW 211900Z 14003KT 110V170 2500 HZ NSC 17/16 Q1019
BECMG 1500 BR=
METAR OMDW 212000Z 18003KT 160V220 0800 R12/P2000N FG BKN001
17/15 Q1019 BECMG 0100 VV///
METAR OMDW 212100Z 18003KT 0300 R12/0450V1000 FG VV005 15/14
Q1019 TEMPO 0100 VV///=

METAR OMDB 212300Z VRB02KT 5000 1000E R30L/P2000N BCFG NSC
18/16 Q1017 BECMG 0500 FG VV///=
METAR OMDB 220000Z 17002KT 1500 0600E R30L/P2000N BCFG FEW001
17/16 Q1017 BECMG 0500 FG VV///=
METAR OMDB 220100Z 19005KT 0100 R30L/0250 FG VV/// 16/15
Q1017 NOSIG=

[JAARule]

It runs up the coast and can be most spectacular to watch

Fog? Spectacular?? I must be missing something. Probably quite a lot.


As long as YOU are landed and headed to bed I really don't know why anyone could give a fog's fat ass what else happens around here, weather-wise, or anything else.

[Plazbot]

Come on bro, we had The Stones last week and Clapton next week. You've gotta lighten up.

[InnocentBystander]

Flyandbike. Because The 'follow the greens' is not operational......

You think it wouldnt be used in LVO if it worked, thats one of its primary purposes??? Do you think people sit there thinking, 'hey that would be good, we should use that, cant be bothered though'???

And its only a very small part of the problem at DXB, theres also stand management, DNATA, bay allocation, airspace restrictions, passenger transfer delays etc etc etc

And remember that pilots almost always think that everybody is stupid except themselves. That's why pilots are the best airline executives; obviously.

[Gulfstreamaviator]

Spectacular

From a hig building on SZR, with the lights glowing, as the fog rolls up SZR, YES it is impressive.
Glf

[JAARule]

The Stones - great act and I love their stuff but are they actually performing any of their art or is it "weekend at Bernies" with the support crew doing the performing and their arm waving via some wires??

[Plazbot]

Did you go mate? If not, get yourself to Clapton. MSG me and we will get a beer.

[H.El.Shafey]

what about the follow me cars,can they not arrange this mystery

[Kiwikid]

Fog in the forecast tonight. Wonder if anyone has learnt anything.

[falconeasydriver]

Roll up roll in, let the fun and games begin...


OMDB 021300Z 27014KT 240V300 CAVOK 23/13 Q1013 NOSIG
TAF OMDB 021056Z 0212/0318 27015KT CAVOK
BECMG 0218/0220 18005KT
PROB40 0222/0305 3000 BR BKN008
PROB30 0300/0304 0100 FG VV///
BECMG 0308/0310 33010KT
BECMG 0316/0318 05005KT

OMDW 021300Z 28014KT CAVOK 23/14 Q1014 NOSIG
TAF OMDW 021056Z 0212/0318 29015KT CAVOK
BECMG 0218/0220 18005KT
PROB30 0222/0305 0100 FG VV///
BECMG 0308/0310 32010KT
BECMG 0316/0318 07005KT

OMAA 021300Z 29012KT CAVOK 23/14 Q1013 A2993 NOSIG
TAF OMAA 021100Z 0212/0318 32014KT 8000 NSC
BECMG 0216/0218 26005KT
BECMG 0222/0224 VRB02KT 4000 HZ
PROB30 0301/0304 1500 BR
FM030500 28008KT CAVOK
BECMG 0307/0309 32012KT

OMAL 021300Z 30015KT CAVOK 27/09 Q1014 A2996 NOSIG
TAF OMAL 021100Z 0212/0318 24006KT CAVOK
BECMG 0217/0219 VRB02KT 4000 HZ NSC
PROB40 0300/0304 17004KT 0200 FG VV///
FM030400 10007KT CAVOK
BECMG 0306/0308 30011KT

OOMS 021250Z 08004KT 030V110 9999 SCT020 BKN200 27/11 Q1012 NOSIG
TAF OOMS 0212/0318 01011KT CAVOK
TEMPO 0217/0306 VRB02T 9000 NSC

[BDiONU]

Originally Posted by H.El.Shafey

what about the follow me cars,can they not arrange this mystery

How many vehicles, how many fully trained staff to drive on the manoeuvring area, how does ATC control them all as well as all the aircraft on frequency, what do they all do on the 360 days a year with no fog?
Bit like the UK and it's unpreparedness for snow.

[Panther 88]

Look, it's part of the master plan to find a valid reason NOT to have a profit share this year. In the past, they've blamed it on a volcano, so why not fog this year. "We wanted to give you eight weeks, but with the major disruption of three or four days of the operation out of a year, we just don't see how a profit share is possible....sorry".

[SOPS]

How was it this morning?

[Plazbot]

Foggy...........