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Old 21st Jan 2014, 07:58
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TheDarkHorse ,

I have the same experience as you , each time I look for a ticket , it's ALWAYS more expensive with Emirates so how comes their aircraft are full ?
Who are all these people crazy enough to pay more and sometimes a lot more than with any other airlines ???

Does that mean that the prices are just more expensive for US here stuck in the UAE and that prices would be less for people traveling from abroad ??

I really don't understand the success of this airline when I see the cost of the tickets , I really don't get it.

I must be really stupid , I guess...
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 08:21
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DG,
Ex DXB fare basis is higher than Ex wherever else. The same fare for example CMB-LHR instead of LHR-CMB is cheaper and likewise ex LHR is usually cheaper than ex DXB.
So yeah for those of us here in UAE, its more expensive.

How they fill these flights? There are a lot of people who travel because of the name I think, but also because they know that they can get away with s**t on board.
When you sell 500 Y class tickets but need to upgrade 50 people where is the money? I have no idea
Either way - my travel goes to other airlines, CX going east, BA/LH going west. If I have to stop in FRA or LHR then so be it but I'd rather give them my money than EK.

I wouldn't call you stupid - I'd just say that you probably wouldn't raise fares to hugely inflated prices to public and you're own staff alike - even telling them to wait before booking fares so that you can get some extra money outa them.
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 08:39
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1. Don't worry, they ARE complaining to the higher ups
2. "Those who give a sh!t"???? Um... clearly they don't, hence this latest development
3. Real names are being used
4. By posting here it gives prospective employees tge real deal vs the PR machine shiny version
5. The page containing the negative comments mysteriously stopped working.

Hmmmmm.....
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 09:03
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Banana - Clearly there are people here who do care judging by the varied amount of responses and lack of responses such as yours.
How do you know I haven't written?

I guess you're thrilled at the prospect of paying more for your tickets? Or do you even work for EK? I mean surely if you do then you can't be happy at these changes? If you are then wow you will be severely in a minority or perhaps one of those whom had their ticket prices reduced
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 10:09
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The comments are still there, including the odd one or two looking to impress...
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 10:09
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there seems to be some other places that have moved closer to Dubai. Just 3 examples..... Venice, Zurich and Vienna have moved from group 5 to group 4 making them cheaper on the new system. Maybe some others too that I have not mentioned.
Unfortunately Australia has not drifted closer
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 10:36
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"Unfortunately Australia has not drifted closer.".....
A collective sigh of relief echoed throughout Dubai. Tears of joy seen in the eyes of millions.....

SM
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 12:04
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Now that's funny
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 12:46
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A collective sigh of relief echoed throughout Dubai. Tears of joy seen in the eyes of millions.....
Brilliant!
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 13:12
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Thanks SM.... you made my day... still giggling
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 14:50
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groupworld

Sorry guys, i am limited i know...... but i cannot find the page in group world where employees complain about the new tickets......
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 16:13
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Can't find it either...
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 16:25
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To access the complaints page, on the portal, select the 'Travel' tab at the top. On this travel page, there is an option that is entitled something like 'TRIPS is changing' ; select that, then scroll down the page to read the comments, and at the bottom, you are able to add your own thoughts.

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Old 21st Jan 2014, 22:09
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Staff comments on portal

Wow...what a reaction. Pages and pages of the stuff.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out.

As with some earlier posters, I can't understand why HH would put his name to an email launching this so called "reward for hard work".

It's a dressed up pig. Pure and simple.

I'm quite sure the top fella must be being misled by his management team. Surely?

We have had so many "rich rewards", and "staff will be looked after" promises..but it seems those comments only apply to the upper echelons whose job it is to find savings that inevitably come out of the back pockets of those at the coal face.
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 23:01
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I don't want to sound like a stupid American here, but what I don't get is why won't EK let it's own pilots fly stby for free if the seats are not taken? Or in the cockpit, "Jumpseat" if all seats are taken ? (extra pair of eyes for free)... This is a cost neutral measure and increases QOL tenfold.
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 23:17
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Wow, there is a lot of unhappy campers..not that I blame them, what a slap in the face for us all.
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 04:57
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Cat125

I like the person on group world who said the 'Special' tickets should be renamed Cat125 asap, so people know what the tickets really are

There was also over 12,000 hits if you follow the link from your inbox/everything you need to know about special tickets, with the humourous title "fly everywhere with everyone". Also found under the news tab
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 07:07
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A number of years ago a daughter of a VSenior EK manager was refused the jumpseat by the flight deck. Ever since then the jump seat was lost to the FD.

ONLY THE CRAPIEST of destinations has any concessional tickets, what a mess this staff travel is. I have just been looking for the first time for some flights on other airlines due to these price rises as there are NOT any concessional tickets available on more popular routes. This is not a perk or a benefit, it is selling off empty seats to employees for more money than they were before. If you dont want to buy the seat for yourself, enjoy the genrosity of the company to charge you that higher fee to fill the empty/spare seats up with friends.......do they think we are all as mad as them.....SIGH!!

As an employee of well over a decade I am sad to say that I am finally being treated the way Emirates wants to treat its employees (without care or respect) and I have to buy tickets in Economy now due costs, thats what you get for a 30yr flying career!
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 10:17
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If this is their idea of EK looking after us, I can't wait to see how they will look after us come pay review/bonus time.
After all it's only a couple of months until the end of the financial year.
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 10:35
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Wow, the comments posted by the staff in the intranet make me feel that we are not the only ones that feel unhappy and totally demotivated in the company. 20k views and counting...

EK is committing the mistake of forgetting that employees should be the n1 asset for any company.

Accumulated inflation in Dubai in the last 2 years is around the 25%-30% range. How long are they going to remain impassive?

I think staff travel was one of the few things that people didn't complain about (til today). I hope management reconsiders.
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