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Old 18th May 2013, 06:58
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And that's where it gets ugly.

If we simply covered costs, did not return a dividend and kept our cash reserve, including investment returns, unchanged, we would have "Broken even".

We did better than that to the tune of aroung 5 billion Dhs- they just chose not to define a large percentage of that as "Profit".
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Old 18th May 2013, 10:49
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The US has 30,000 commercial flights a day. That does not include the military, corporate or VFR traffic which ups the number of flights considerably.
If you LL insist on talking like you have crap in your mouth go ahead but one can not and must not talk like you are in kindergarten when fly in the states.
Everyone knows we are an embarrassment when we fly in the states. How many times have you heard "I hope they don't give us a runway change" when landing in the US. "We don't do visuals." We are a joke and most pilots in the world know it.
They are not lazy in the states just very busy and the pilots have the contracts and pay scales to prove it.
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Old 18th May 2013, 13:24
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So why on earth, Cerbus, would you want to work with a bunch of clowns like us?
Reminds me of that joke: "My mother never understood the irony of calling me a son-of-a-b*tch."
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Old 18th May 2013, 14:11
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Coz he wanted to know the difference between Pan & Mayday.

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Old 18th May 2013, 15:03
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Originally Posted by wet fee two
4. But without getting into Super vs Rest mud slinging, we know that ''Heavy'' is the true work horse and hasn't called in sick since its inception.
Wasn't called the CRIPPLE 7 for nothing when it first came to EK..... Far lower initial dispatch reliability than than the 380.

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Old 19th May 2013, 05:09
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Cool My Defense of Yanks

I think that the "get in line" sort of negativity about yanks has a multi-faceted origin and we deserve some of it, or at least I do.

The lingo/slang/CAP14 case is valid. So is our adoption of slang domestically. When I was trained, it wasn't stressed. Period. I grew up in that world. When I came to the other world, it was blatant and a problem. I still work on improving myself and expressing myself more clearly and conveying sometimes complex requests and requirements to non-native English speakers. I try to improve my standard phraseology.

When I was a young turboprop FO, a Captain I flew with taught me a few things about precise readbacks of ground clearances/take-off clearances, etc. I taught the same lessons to my FO's in turn.

A few months ago I was #2 for takeoff in the USA as augmenter FO. An AMR MD-80 was cleared for takeoff by the controller and the takeoff clearance readback was literally, "Cleared to go." I was horrified, embarrassed, and disappointed. The controller let it go. If I was his Captain or FO (I don't know which of them was the guilty one), I wouldn't have.

Then when it was it was our turn, my European FO pilot monitoring read back our takeoff clearance and didn't mention a runway number. Ugh.

At the end of the day, we all have strengths and weaknesses. We all bring things to the cockpit.

Maybe even I have brought someting good to the cockpit along with some bad. Then again, I am a Yank.

Now, for those that really hate the USA, hmm, stay away ;-) We have over 300 million people that don't hate the place, and many more that might like to join us.

We aren't perfect. We have done many bad things along with many good. I think the argument could be made that the USA has made some positive contributions to humanity. I hope we learn from the bad and mistakes and help move humanity forward.

Besides, the days of manned cockpits are numbered anyways


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Old 24th May 2013, 06:48
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What date are we meant to be paid?
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Old 24th May 2013, 06:53
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26th Incl the wonderful pay rise for the month of may
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Old 25th May 2013, 06:08
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scholing allowance

When can we expect info about any increase in scholing allowance? Or am I naive...

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Old 25th May 2013, 07:01
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Old 25th May 2013, 13:43
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School and Housing if any in July.
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Old 26th May 2013, 11:10
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If announced in July will it be back dated to May or just start in July/August?

I am still hearing from new joiners that housing is going to 180k and 200k
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