The Announcement May 9th
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I want to make it very clear that I am not advocating uploading extra fuel or doing anything of the sort. I am not telling the cabin crew to go and hand out everything on board. I am not telling the ground staff to drag their feet.
My post was simply meant to express my opinion, as a pilot and a person that knows about business, that a pissed off employee group that stays in the work force is far far more costly to any large corporation (especially an airline) than the training costs of the ones that quit.
My post was simply meant to express my opinion, as a pilot and a person that knows about business, that a pissed off employee group that stays in the work force is far far more costly to any large corporation (especially an airline) than the training costs of the ones that quit.
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I've not done the Harare triangle trip, but when did the burnout policy disappear and what has it been replaced with?
Do the operating crew not still need their 3 hours minimum rest?
I've not done the Harare triangle trip, but when did the burnout policy disappear and what has it been replaced with?
Do the operating crew not still need their 3 hours minimum rest?
Quote: eg the last recall made by the GCAA authoritiy to EK! Credit flying times
and then I meant (I was not clear) that the "Burn out policy is totally illegal", this one has not been (yet) recall by the GCAA.
The burn out policy does exist in the OM-A, but doesn't not in the GCAA text, this is something totally contradictory with the OFFICIAL FDP definition by itself.
One more time, EK does whatever it likes! until the GCAA starts showing it is an authority...
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Even the media have caught on to the obvious injustice and lack of goodwill...
Emirates defends no staff bonus, despite huge profit - ArabianBusiness.com
Emirates defends no staff bonus, despite huge profit - ArabianBusiness.com
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What I don't understand is people thinking it is OK not to get the profit share again this year by saying this is the best package around, we should be pleased to have a job..... Read the previous online article: that's exactly what the management say and want us to think!
Why do they settle for second best?
My previous company was meant to be worse....I am starting to wonder if, in fact, it was not better....
PS: Adolf, the best post ever!
Why do they settle for second best?
My previous company was meant to be worse....I am starting to wonder if, in fact, it was not better....
PS: Adolf, the best post ever!
Last edited by Desert Camel; 12th May 2013 at 14:10. Reason: Profit Share, not bonus!
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Gents, Let's get this definition straight. We do not get a bonus, for once and for all, we get a PROFIT SHARE. Those on the palace get bonuses, whether a profit is made or not. What we call it does make a difference in the mindset. WE made a profit, but do not get to share. Those who "manage" us get bonuses for increasing our workload and continually eroding our total "package". Lower costs in your department and you will get a BONUS. the only incentive for us to go above and beyond is the possibility of a SHARE of the rewards. We will never get a BONUS.
Think about the PR as above. A bonus is one thing, not sharing in a 52% profit increase is a whole 'nother animal. Call it as such. There is nothing in our contracts that refer to a bonus.
Think about the PR as above. A bonus is one thing, not sharing in a 52% profit increase is a whole 'nother animal. Call it as such. There is nothing in our contracts that refer to a bonus.
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Talking of the Spanish GP, just over 18 years ago I was in a bar in Bahrain and Rothmans were there promoting the upcoming GP in Spain and had a competion for a 3 day trip to the GP all expenses paid from LHR to be wined and dined by them and a pass to the GP where Damon Hill and Coulthard would meet us and I won it and was on the grid just before the start to boot. ( Perhaps you saw me on the telly if nanny was not changing your nappy at the time??)
Corrected for spelling of Damon Ooops
Talking of the Spanish GP, just over 18 years ago I was in a bar in Bahrain and Rothmans were there promoting the upcoming GP in Spain and had a competion for a 3 day trip to the GP all expenses paid from LHR to be wined and dined by them and a pass to the GP where Damon Hill and Coulthard would meet us and I won it and was on the grid just before the start to boot. ( Perhaps you saw me on the telly if nanny was not changing your nappy at the time??)
Corrected for spelling of Damon Ooops
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Originally Posted by millerscourt
just over 18 years ago I was in a bar in Bahrain
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Do keep up!
It was a Rothmans competition not a GF one as they were sponsors of the Williams team.
Not being a smoker I assume Rothmans are still made but because tobacco companies are persona non grata these days most GP's went overseas.
Do keep up!
It was a Rothmans competition not a GF one as they were sponsors of the Williams team.Not being a smoker I assume Rothmans are still made but because tobacco companies are persona non grata these days most GP's went overseas.
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Originally Posted by givemewings
I for one will be putting my foot down as regards the giving away of crew food to pax who obviously could not be bothered to order their own veg meals.... no more. If they don't order, that's their problem. Crew should not go without (happens on majority of flights these days) watch that change. And crew are within their rights to say, wait, that's my food, sorry no you cannot give it to mr want-3-meals....
If she'd asked I would have said 'go ahead'
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The number was a big one, but for an operation the size of Emirates it looks like a poor performance.
In the real world the management would have a hard time to explain such a performance to the stake holders and would, most probably, be replaced for under performing badly.
Once again shiny figures but if you dig a bit deeper, it doesn't look too good.
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Really, name & profit of a comparable carrier that had an acceptable performance.
EY, QR, FZ. Did better than us?. They got a bonus.
f.
EY, QR, FZ. Did better than us?. They got a bonus.
f.
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Be prepared
"Therefore, staff, whom we know continue to work very hard, will not receive a bonus on this occasion. They will, however, continue to enjoy the generous benefits package offered to all staff of the Emirates Group."
That's office talk for "they will never do the bonus again". Get used to it.
That's office talk for "they will never do the bonus again". Get used to it.