Qatar Airways - The 5 star JOKE!!!
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It's a great airline, and people are very friendly, even surprise to see the hospitality of the locals. Only negative point, driving, but after 4 weeks I got used to it. It is also a great place for kids. Just keep an open mind, and it will really benefit your life.
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Originally Posted by av8tordude
I can not speak intelligently about Emirates loan policies, but I suspect Emirates is not the place you are receiving your loan. If you are getting an interest-free loan, it most likely an agreement made between the banks and Emirates Airlines for pilots to received such a benefit.
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@spearmic, Can I just clarify, when did you meet the locals? Do you mean real Qataris or the millions of other people from around the world, that might have looked qatari since you probably can't tell the difference between one brown person and the next?
In almost one year at the company I have probably spent a total of 5 minutes in the company of qataris, most of it had to do with ministry stuff, visas, licenses etc. please enlighten us on your meetings with the "locals".
BTW I'm not bashing the airline or Qatar, I just genuinely curiois to know where spearminic met these locals he's talking about.
In almost one year at the company I have probably spent a total of 5 minutes in the company of qataris, most of it had to do with ministry stuff, visas, licenses etc. please enlighten us on your meetings with the "locals".
BTW I'm not bashing the airline or Qatar, I just genuinely curiois to know where spearminic met these locals he's talking about.
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When I moved here it was my plan to learn from the locals and understand their cultures, I have done many research to differantiate them like the way they dress etc... I have met many already and they were very open with me and my family, opening their houses and offering me tea, having interesting conversations. The locals I have met so far are very warm and friendly.
I have been in many places like most of you here, and I find it very enriching to open your mind to different cultures. Now I hear a lot of negative posts, from narrow minded people, and I'm just sharing my experience to show those interested that this place is actually worth it, and in a few years it will be the place to be.
That's my modest opinion, we can agree to disagree but I'm very happy with this new turn in my career.
I have been in many places like most of you here, and I find it very enriching to open your mind to different cultures. Now I hear a lot of negative posts, from narrow minded people, and I'm just sharing my experience to show those interested that this place is actually worth it, and in a few years it will be the place to be.
That's my modest opinion, we can agree to disagree but I'm very happy with this new turn in my career.
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I'm not bashing anyone, I was just curious, I have hardly met any of the locals. If anyone were to ask me where one would go to meet the locals I'de suggest the ministry of transportation or the left lane of the D-ring road.
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Don't be too quick to judge, what efforts have the locals made to meet me? But it's good that you've made the effort to pursue learning about the place your living in, it'll definitely help you get by.
As for me I've only lived in the middle east for 20 years, that's a long time to keep the cliche going wouldn't you say? As I said, don't be too quick to judge, I'm speaking out of experience, the Qataris are a very private group, more so than other Arabs. That's why I was curious.
As for me I've only lived in the middle east for 20 years, that's a long time to keep the cliche going wouldn't you say? As I said, don't be too quick to judge, I'm speaking out of experience, the Qataris are a very private group, more so than other Arabs. That's why I was curious.
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Best way to meet a local...GUARANTEED!!!. Best statement of the year!!!!
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It has been 10 years since I left QR - I was there when we had the B747s and witnessed the takeover and growth of the company. I have some great memories and some **** ones - mainly great though.
Dark Magic - mass hyperbole springs to mind here. There are, and always have been, issues. I was a CSD and the Cabin Crew were not allowed liquor permits and yes there were some stringent rules (latterly) regarding curfews and all that nonsense.
However, I was, at one point, the only male crew member in (one of) the female accommodation blocks. AAB was aware and turned a blind eye, not just because I was going to marry the girl (I did!) I was living with but also because I was a male presence among females and, in a sense, perhaps a wee bit of security.
I finally rented my own place where my missus could stay without scrutiny but everyone knew....
When I left more and more rules were being implemented and it was mainly unnecessary but I ended up with a beautiful wife and two amazing children so I cannot complain....even if AAB was starting to become even more tyrannical and paranoid...
I wouldn't recommend it to anyone for sure but I would not be as harsh and OTT as your good self - keep calm and carry on mate!
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Dark Magic - mass hyperbole springs to mind here. There are, and always have been, issues. I was a CSD and the Cabin Crew were not allowed liquor permits and yes there were some stringent rules (latterly) regarding curfews and all that nonsense.
However, I was, at one point, the only male crew member in (one of) the female accommodation blocks. AAB was aware and turned a blind eye, not just because I was going to marry the girl (I did!) I was living with but also because I was a male presence among females and, in a sense, perhaps a wee bit of security.
I finally rented my own place where my missus could stay without scrutiny but everyone knew....
When I left more and more rules were being implemented and it was mainly unnecessary but I ended up with a beautiful wife and two amazing children so I cannot complain....even if AAB was starting to become even more tyrannical and paranoid...
I wouldn't recommend it to anyone for sure but I would not be as harsh and OTT as your good self - keep calm and carry on mate!
Cheers
HR
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All you company men are quite rediculious!!
You have completely missed the point - I was only using the alcohol license as an example how stupid the system is where you have to run around with bits of paper from one place to the next. Not one of you can deny this!
It is the way they work here and I guess the Indian mentality, where no one will be accountable for anything - I will say again - try and get anything done!
As even the company men say - you have to be forcefull lol - is that normal in a so called 5 star airline?
I dont think so! lol
What I have stated is facts - as others have called a fare post - of course in any situation you are going to get the company guys that will back a losing horse but as I have said - IF you have another option for another job THEN TAKE THAT ONE!! DO NOT COME HERE!! I wish I didnt and I to like many that are here have to stick it out - it is not right to have to work under these conditions but hey if you make the bed you have to lie on it.
I would only like to give the heads up so that people do not quit good jobs to come to this joke of a place that truely looks good until you are in the mess.
I to was fooled
Plain and simple FACTS - remember I have nothing to gain from this - I am stuck and would hate for people to be in the same situation
Good luck guys
You have completely missed the point - I was only using the alcohol license as an example how stupid the system is where you have to run around with bits of paper from one place to the next. Not one of you can deny this!
It is the way they work here and I guess the Indian mentality, where no one will be accountable for anything - I will say again - try and get anything done!
As even the company men say - you have to be forcefull lol - is that normal in a so called 5 star airline?
I dont think so! lol
What I have stated is facts - as others have called a fare post - of course in any situation you are going to get the company guys that will back a losing horse but as I have said - IF you have another option for another job THEN TAKE THAT ONE!! DO NOT COME HERE!! I wish I didnt and I to like many that are here have to stick it out - it is not right to have to work under these conditions but hey if you make the bed you have to lie on it.
I would only like to give the heads up so that people do not quit good jobs to come to this joke of a place that truely looks good until you are in the mess.
I to was fooled
Plain and simple FACTS - remember I have nothing to gain from this - I am stuck and would hate for people to be in the same situation
Good luck guys
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Flying with or meeting the locals are the least of the problems.
Try working with the office staff where all but maybe one or two fleet managers are from Indian. Everyone passes the ball to the next person - nothing gets done in this airline.
Hello captain - ah no captain sorry - that is this person you need to talk to lol
And so you get pushed around day in and day out
Again do you see anyone from emirate or etihad moving to qatar? NO of course not - but the other way around - YES!!! sign me up
Try working with the office staff where all but maybe one or two fleet managers are from Indian. Everyone passes the ball to the next person - nothing gets done in this airline.
Hello captain - ah no captain sorry - that is this person you need to talk to lol
And so you get pushed around day in and day out
Again do you see anyone from emirate or etihad moving to qatar? NO of course not - but the other way around - YES!!! sign me up
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Originally Posted by dark magic
Again do you see anyone from emirate or etihad moving to qatar? NO of course not - but the other way around - YES!!! sign me up
Before you respond, think carefully about your response. It will DEFINE who you really are!!!
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av8tordude,
With due respect, have you even started flying the line at QR? You are defending the company but it seems you have only joined recently.
Please share your views of the company after 2 years flying the line, and all that entails. That would add weight to your opinion.
For now, QR remains a stepping stone for many. Which other flag carrier do people leave to join a loco?
Something must be wrong, right?
pproonhero.
With due respect, have you even started flying the line at QR? You are defending the company but it seems you have only joined recently.
Please share your views of the company after 2 years flying the line, and all that entails. That would add weight to your opinion.
For now, QR remains a stepping stone for many. Which other flag carrier do people leave to join a loco?
Something must be wrong, right?
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Pproonhero - well said. I think Avi8tor dude is only one month with the company or an office jockey who doesnt fly.
The reason i am stuck in this hole is like many other pilots in that we are taking the best opportunity, i,e the fastest way out with a decent type rating. Once i have what ive come for, i'll be leaving like everyone else. As i've said before its a stepping stone and this is purely a warning to other pilots who have what they want to stay away!
The rosters in this place are getting worse with split duties and only logging 66% of the time you actually do. Nowhere in Europe will you get away with this. Only my pirate relatives work 24 hours a day with no rest but there they are making the best bucks, with a few million per boat! Hehe.
The reason i am stuck in this hole is like many other pilots in that we are taking the best opportunity, i,e the fastest way out with a decent type rating. Once i have what ive come for, i'll be leaving like everyone else. As i've said before its a stepping stone and this is purely a warning to other pilots who have what they want to stay away!
The rosters in this place are getting worse with split duties and only logging 66% of the time you actually do. Nowhere in Europe will you get away with this. Only my pirate relatives work 24 hours a day with no rest but there they are making the best bucks, with a few million per boat! Hehe.