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I’ve asked a few maintenance engineers which Airbus A330 hulls they are decommissioning and all of them I spoke with said none whatsoever. I think the A330 will hang around to stink up the joint for another 5 to 7 years until the A350 takes over as the India Express doing those coveted 3:30am turnarounds.
As for upgrade on the shortbus, I heard 8 of 8 failed upgrade in the last batch. All failed in the sim so it doesn’t even count all the guys who were not even allowed to try because they didn’t make it through the upgrade interview & psych eval.
On top of that, I heard the A380 will have some sort of special command review board or some such thing, so I doubt the “lucky” FOs who go to the squarebus will have any better odds of getting that 4th stripe. My guess is the senior 777 skippers will transfer into the left seat of the blunderbus and leave most of the 380 FOs stuck in the right seat or maybe back for a shot at the left seat on the shortbus.
In my opinion, taking an A330 new hire slot is a really bad idea. Just tell Recruiting no, you’ll wait for a 777 class. Boeing & Airbus main fleets at Emirates are like 2 completely different airlines.
As for upgrade on the shortbus, I heard 8 of 8 failed upgrade in the last batch. All failed in the sim so it doesn’t even count all the guys who were not even allowed to try because they didn’t make it through the upgrade interview & psych eval.
On top of that, I heard the A380 will have some sort of special command review board or some such thing, so I doubt the “lucky” FOs who go to the squarebus will have any better odds of getting that 4th stripe. My guess is the senior 777 skippers will transfer into the left seat of the blunderbus and leave most of the 380 FOs stuck in the right seat or maybe back for a shot at the left seat on the shortbus.
In my opinion, taking an A330 new hire slot is a really bad idea. Just tell Recruiting no, you’ll wait for a 777 class. Boeing & Airbus main fleets at Emirates are like 2 completely different airlines.
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That has been recently rescinded, wiz, so we are stuck where we are. My own situation is that with the 2500 hrs on type required, my upgrade chance will not be before 8 years in this company on present rules. This does mean that there are chaps out there who haven't even joined EK yet who will get the 777 and will upgrade before me - and I have already been here for 5 years! Factor in the rate at which I am flying these days and that 8 years is actually looking conservative...
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DECs may well "save the day" Payscale but not in a hurry. If they have only just interviewed and guessing most would need to give current employer up to 3 months notice, plus training here they would not hit the streets for at least Aug or Sep which might be abit late to "save the day". So CaptSmithy will have more guys jumping him to the left seat albeit on the small bus. You just can't tell what will happen when you make those fleet choices eh?
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I think Sittingidly is right about quality of life on Airbus vs 777 main fleets at Emirates. Yes, he sometimes employs fiery rhetoric -for a while I thought he might have actually been Kim Jong Il writing under a pseudonym, but that theory went down the crapper when the Dear Leader kicked the bucket last December.
Regardless, I think he’s right about quality of life on Airbus vs 777 main fleets at Emirates. Wannabees,... think really hard before you believe the handful of Airbus guys who can’t seem to admit they got the short end of the stick and keep pushing the line that Airbus main fleet is peachy. Hold out for the Boeing in your interview. EK 777 life is waaaaayyy better than Airbus on the main fleet. Geez, even the hosties know that.
Regardless, I think he’s right about quality of life on Airbus vs 777 main fleets at Emirates. Wannabees,... think really hard before you believe the handful of Airbus guys who can’t seem to admit they got the short end of the stick and keep pushing the line that Airbus main fleet is peachy. Hold out for the Boeing in your interview. EK 777 life is waaaaayyy better than Airbus on the main fleet. Geez, even the hosties know that.
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Magic I don't think anyone is deluded to the point of thinking Airbus life is 'peachy'. It sucks in comparison, but nowhere near as bad as made out to be, once you get some seniority of course....
Since Nov I havnt worked over 50 hours in a month. And in that same period I've had 5 night flights including a reserve month and second bottom bid month. That to me is good compared to what I was doing when I joined, and Yes I still get envious when I see mates on 777 globetrotting. But 330 is hardly a death sentence especially if you want to be home for the wife n kids (quality time.....?)
So anyway what I'm saying is if and when the 380 ccqs get running again, your seniority will move up in a rapid pace on the fleet & as new hires join behind you. So look at it as short term pain for potentially long term gain (lifestyle wise on 380).
Since Nov I havnt worked over 50 hours in a month. And in that same period I've had 5 night flights including a reserve month and second bottom bid month. That to me is good compared to what I was doing when I joined, and Yes I still get envious when I see mates on 777 globetrotting. But 330 is hardly a death sentence especially if you want to be home for the wife n kids (quality time.....?)
So anyway what I'm saying is if and when the 380 ccqs get running again, your seniority will move up in a rapid pace on the fleet & as new hires join behind you. So look at it as short term pain for potentially long term gain (lifestyle wise on 380).
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Emirates Plans Final A340-300 Service on 28FEB13: Update 1
by JL
Update at 1540GMT 29MAR12
As per 29MAR12 GDS timetable and inventory display, Emirates’ initial plan for final Airbus A340-300 flight is currently scheduled on 28FEB13, Venice – Dubai EK138. In Feb 2013, the remaining A340-300 routes include Venice and Hyderabad. The airline introduced Airbus A340-300 aircraft to its scheduled operation on 10MAR04.
Based on current schedule planning, the airline would be operating a total of 61915 scheduled flights between 2004 and 2013, according to OAG Schedules iNet.
Planned Emirates A340-300 schedule on 28FEB13 as follows. Note that the final Emirates Airbus A340-300 remains subject to change, pending on further route network development.
EK526 DXB0345 – 0840HYD 343
EK527 HYD1015 – 1245DXB 343
EK137 DXB1545 – 1915VCE 343
EK138 VCE2055 – 0545+1DXB 343
by JL
Update at 1540GMT 29MAR12
As per 29MAR12 GDS timetable and inventory display, Emirates’ initial plan for final Airbus A340-300 flight is currently scheduled on 28FEB13, Venice – Dubai EK138. In Feb 2013, the remaining A340-300 routes include Venice and Hyderabad. The airline introduced Airbus A340-300 aircraft to its scheduled operation on 10MAR04.
Based on current schedule planning, the airline would be operating a total of 61915 scheduled flights between 2004 and 2013, according to OAG Schedules iNet.
Planned Emirates A340-300 schedule on 28FEB13 as follows. Note that the final Emirates Airbus A340-300 remains subject to change, pending on further route network development.
EK526 DXB0345 – 0840HYD 343
EK527 HYD1015 – 1245DXB 343
EK137 DXB1545 – 1915VCE 343
EK138 VCE2055 – 0545+1DXB 343
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Give me the turns, would rather be in my own bed than down route anytime, each to his own. Also, give it a rest.
just managed to swap my only layover in may for day turns. second bottom bid and only one night flight... 55 hrs + 5 days reserve!!
snug as a bug.
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sittingidly you are a genius!
my post was just a question and yes, 2 yrs. ago, when i wrote it, i was flying about 90 hrs. a month and didn't like it
so what.
now? much much better...
tz
my post was just a question and yes, 2 yrs. ago, when i wrote it, i was flying about 90 hrs. a month and didn't like it
so what.
now? much much better...
tz
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Originally Posted by sittingidly
Shocking to have people who are supposedly pilots
Funny thread this one
I read it during my 54 hour bottom bid month. It's been hell... Ok, maybe not
PS - I would most definitely not want to do those nine day trips to CHC.
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Sittingidly is spot on in this thread. The 330/340 is a brutal slog most months, without sufficient productivity to make up the bid window hours. Just give me one BNE or MEL back each month. The 777 for the most part has enough productivity to make up the 85-90 hours. Airbus is a short medium haul fleet with too many night flights without enough credit and without enough days off to recover. End of story. Night night.
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All I know is that we all work for the same group and we all need each other in order to make money. Unfortunately I am on the 330 at the moment and life is a bit rough. Luckily I know this can only get better!
It is a cycle at EK. Once apon a time the 330 used to be the fleet!
It is a cycle at EK. Once apon a time the 330 used to be the fleet!