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Sudden death
We got multiple emails recently expressing sadness about the young man who collapsed in front of his wife and two daughters while trying to peel some fruits from the kitchen. A stroke or sudden heart attack of a man under 40 is rather unusual, but when it hits, it hits harder than those up in age.
THY present management is experimenting with civilian rule using military vindictiveness strategies, and they seem happy controlling the subdued pilot group, at least the local one. The recent death of an Onur air pilot in Amman opening the L1 door, and this latest occurrence are hitherto indications of steering the ship in the wrong direction. MoT and DGCA in conjunction with THY are now redesigning new strategies of work that includes repression, and cost reduction, at the expense of innocent and hardworking employees who only desire to feed their nest specially in times of financial troubles.
But one thing is unacceptable, I was perplexed yesterday seeing the Snr V.P Ops or CP, whatever he wants to be called, sending emails to pilot comrads to feed the family of the besieged pilot; I consider this an affront to managerial strategies if not a disrespectful approach to the subject; Has he forgotten that the company he so proudly represents is 18 months in arrears of backdated pay for which they continue playing games with the union? This guy sits on a comfortable office room in a dumped building nearby the airport , flies maybe 10 hours a month, pretends he is Charles Lindberg and now wants to fill in the gaps of an infamous company at the expense of decent airmen? ARE THERE ANY ETHICS LEFT BEHIND IN THIS OUTFIT??
THY present management is experimenting with civilian rule using military vindictiveness strategies, and they seem happy controlling the subdued pilot group, at least the local one. The recent death of an Onur air pilot in Amman opening the L1 door, and this latest occurrence are hitherto indications of steering the ship in the wrong direction. MoT and DGCA in conjunction with THY are now redesigning new strategies of work that includes repression, and cost reduction, at the expense of innocent and hardworking employees who only desire to feed their nest specially in times of financial troubles.
But one thing is unacceptable, I was perplexed yesterday seeing the Snr V.P Ops or CP, whatever he wants to be called, sending emails to pilot comrads to feed the family of the besieged pilot; I consider this an affront to managerial strategies if not a disrespectful approach to the subject; Has he forgotten that the company he so proudly represents is 18 months in arrears of backdated pay for which they continue playing games with the union? This guy sits on a comfortable office room in a dumped building nearby the airport , flies maybe 10 hours a month, pretends he is Charles Lindberg and now wants to fill in the gaps of an infamous company at the expense of decent airmen? ARE THERE ANY ETHICS LEFT BEHIND IN THIS OUTFIT??
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Don't do the turkish airline assessment :
unless you need one week holiday don't go to this assessment. you arrive on sunday you don't receive a program, it's a day to day event first day document check, then you finished, the second day you have a sort of psychological test just for fun, and an internal english test you can't use it for the renew of your license.....
Then you go back to the hotel, then you receive an email when you're suppose to do your sim check, also for that you will need almost all the day to do 1 hour of test..... then ..... back to the hotel. then you have to monitor email to know if you're ok for the interview........
Maybe you will have it the last day and it will be your problem if you miss the flight.....
So if you need a week holiday in Istanbul ok, if you need a job..... better to say home )))))
unless you need one week holiday don't go to this assessment. you arrive on sunday you don't receive a program, it's a day to day event first day document check, then you finished, the second day you have a sort of psychological test just for fun, and an internal english test you can't use it for the renew of your license.....
Then you go back to the hotel, then you receive an email when you're suppose to do your sim check, also for that you will need almost all the day to do 1 hour of test..... then ..... back to the hotel. then you have to monitor email to know if you're ok for the interview........
Maybe you will have it the last day and it will be your problem if you miss the flight.....
So if you need a week holiday in Istanbul ok, if you need a job..... better to say home )))))
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Supposely they increased the salary I was told by a 777 captain who flies for Turkish.
What is the new pay and schedule for a 737 captain?
Is it permanent now or still 1 year contract
What is the new pay and schedule for a 737 captain?
Is it permanent now or still 1 year contract
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From what I have learned THY is still stalling legal union negotiations about the 2011 pay not to mention 2012 and now THY and the Turkish Goverment is working towards a total ban on strike possibility by the airlines pilots so I don't think the pay raise has been given. The offer through Sigma is still 1 year renewable without real commuting possibility unless 2 days home every month makes you happy.
They have to come up with 4 days + 2 traveling days, 6 days together, and some kind of International ID Tickets on own airline to make it attractive for a family with kids - but my info is about 2 weeks old.
They have to come up with 4 days + 2 traveling days, 6 days together, and some kind of International ID Tickets on own airline to make it attractive for a family with kids - but my info is about 2 weeks old.
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A bogus CEO
The airline has steadily been creating cabin crew jobs, pilot jobs and maintenance jobs through its fleet expansion in recent years. It has grown from 100 aircraft in 2006 to 153 in 2012, with that number expected to grow to 190 by the end of the year.
Mr Kotil said that he hoped to see passenger figures of 38 million for 2012, with revenues of $7.8 billion.
Interesting article, one would only wonder, where would they park those additional 37 aircraft, and who is going to fly them??
THY present management at the helm of this CEO play to peoples fantasies....
The truth is often avoided because it is ugly and unpleasant. (THY AMS accident); Never appeal to truth and reality unless you are prepared for the anger that comes from disenchantment. Life is so harsh and distressing that people who can manufacture romance or conjure up fantasy are like oases in the desert.
Today's resolve of THY Flight Attendants and Technical Engineers who voiced their support for democratic values to remain in Turkey is historical. Sadly enough the pilot group lacks this courage and enthusiasm for essential values of freedom of speech.
Mr Kotil said that he hoped to see passenger figures of 38 million for 2012, with revenues of $7.8 billion.
Interesting article, one would only wonder, where would they park those additional 37 aircraft, and who is going to fly them??
THY present management at the helm of this CEO play to peoples fantasies....
The truth is often avoided because it is ugly and unpleasant. (THY AMS accident); Never appeal to truth and reality unless you are prepared for the anger that comes from disenchantment. Life is so harsh and distressing that people who can manufacture romance or conjure up fantasy are like oases in the desert.
Today's resolve of THY Flight Attendants and Technical Engineers who voiced their support for democratic values to remain in Turkey is historical. Sadly enough the pilot group lacks this courage and enthusiasm for essential values of freedom of speech.
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The struggle continues .
The struggle continues
Members of Hava-Is have announced a new wave of ‘resistance’ protests in a bid to see off legislation outlawing strike action in the aviation industry.
The workers have pledged to renew their protests at Ataturk International Airport, a key Turkish Airlines’ hub, from 17:00 on 30 May.
This latest action builds on a ‘mass sick leave’ protest, which disrupted aviation services on 29 May, the day the amendment introducing the strike ban across the aviation industry was to be presented to the parliament’s plenary session.
Atilay Ayçin, Hava-Is president, explained: “This will be an open-ended protest. For us this is a question of all or nothing. We will either win or be smashed. There is no other option as we have no intention of becoming a non-functioning union.”
Members of Hava-Is have announced a new wave of ‘resistance’ protests in a bid to see off legislation outlawing strike action in the aviation industry.
The workers have pledged to renew their protests at Ataturk International Airport, a key Turkish Airlines’ hub, from 17:00 on 30 May.
This latest action builds on a ‘mass sick leave’ protest, which disrupted aviation services on 29 May, the day the amendment introducing the strike ban across the aviation industry was to be presented to the parliament’s plenary session.
Atilay Ayçin, Hava-Is president, explained: “This will be an open-ended protest. For us this is a question of all or nothing. We will either win or be smashed. There is no other option as we have no intention of becoming a non-functioning union.”
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It will be a Permanent contract until they don't need you!! NO JOB SECURITY HERE!!
Would be nice if they gave their current expat pilots a permanent contract before advertising this outside
Would be nice if they gave their current expat pilots a permanent contract before advertising this outside
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Hey guys.
I would like to introduce myself. I'm in what Emirates call "F/O pool" which means I passed the assessment but I'm waiting for course date.
We've been already advised that it may take up to January 2013 or so, and, as I'm currently unemployed I've decided to start looking for something else.
Obviously the perfect job could be a 6 months well paid contract but there's nothing out there.
So, I'm thinking seriously in Turkish. I've received an email from a broker and I've applied for the F/O on the 737. I'm above the minimums required by the airline (about 3000hrs on the 738) The problem is that I wonder what happens if I pass the assessment, I start working for Turkish let's say for 6 or 7 months and then I receive a DOJ for Emirates.
My intentions are clear, leave wherever I'll be. EK is my priority right now.
Does Turkish bond you?
I've heared from some colleagues working there that they did around 9 simulators when joining. Obviously they were already rated on the type Turkish operates but, as long as they did that big amount of sims, they had some point in the contract saying they need to stay for the whole year.
Is that true? If yes, what happens if you leave? Do they ask you for money?
That's it. I'm just looking for some job to make some money and hours while waiting for EK and wondering if going to Turkish could be a good idea or just a head-ache!
Thank you!
I would like to introduce myself. I'm in what Emirates call "F/O pool" which means I passed the assessment but I'm waiting for course date.
We've been already advised that it may take up to January 2013 or so, and, as I'm currently unemployed I've decided to start looking for something else.
Obviously the perfect job could be a 6 months well paid contract but there's nothing out there.
So, I'm thinking seriously in Turkish. I've received an email from a broker and I've applied for the F/O on the 737. I'm above the minimums required by the airline (about 3000hrs on the 738) The problem is that I wonder what happens if I pass the assessment, I start working for Turkish let's say for 6 or 7 months and then I receive a DOJ for Emirates.
My intentions are clear, leave wherever I'll be. EK is my priority right now.
Does Turkish bond you?
I've heared from some colleagues working there that they did around 9 simulators when joining. Obviously they were already rated on the type Turkish operates but, as long as they did that big amount of sims, they had some point in the contract saying they need to stay for the whole year.
Is that true? If yes, what happens if you leave? Do they ask you for money?
That's it. I'm just looking for some job to make some money and hours while waiting for EK and wondering if going to Turkish could be a good idea or just a head-ache!
Thank you!
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Try this, 6 months contract....
(UPDATED) B737-EFIS TRI Captain and First Officer ? 6 Month Summer Contract - Europe - FD (436)-Latest Pilot Jobs-Latest Pilot Jobs
CP
Try this, 6 months contract....
(UPDATED) B737-EFIS TRI Captain and First Officer ? 6 Month Summer Contract - Europe - FD (436)-Latest Pilot Jobs-Latest Pilot Jobs
CP
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Thank you guys for the info.
niss
I've been looking in the conditions and there is nothing like bond. Is about local law which says a worker not complying with a temporal contract must pay for the remaining of it?
I guess then the amount of money to pay is X months left by basic salary each. Could be a lot of money then.
CaptainProp
I will re-apply but the first time they just forgot me.
I have to say that all my 3k hours on the 737 are in the NG. Seems like companies and recruiters like to much to make difference between NG and EFIS which in my opinion is stupid. My TR in my JAA ATPL license says B737-300/900. To pass from NG to CL and so you only need a difference course which usually means a couple of ground classes and 1 sim. Not a big deal but...
Thanks!!!
niss
I've been looking in the conditions and there is nothing like bond. Is about local law which says a worker not complying with a temporal contract must pay for the remaining of it?
I guess then the amount of money to pay is X months left by basic salary each. Could be a lot of money then.
CaptainProp
I will re-apply but the first time they just forgot me.
I have to say that all my 3k hours on the 737 are in the NG. Seems like companies and recruiters like to much to make difference between NG and EFIS which in my opinion is stupid. My TR in my JAA ATPL license says B737-300/900. To pass from NG to CL and so you only need a difference course which usually means a couple of ground classes and 1 sim. Not a big deal but...
Thanks!!!