Saudi Arabian Airlines Beware and true Facts
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Saudi Arabian Airlines Beware and true Facts
To All Pilots that are planning to answer the recent full page advert in Flight for Capts at Saudia for B777, A320, A330 and EMD 170/90 crew.
The advert and what is listed at what you will get for pay and benefits is true lies!!! If you are selected for interview it will be either in JED, Cairo or in Europe probably Paris and you will be told that your flight and expenses will be reembursed. Mr B K, HR Rep will send a letter guarenteeing this, but this too is true lies. This money will never be reembursed as mine never was.
As for when you arrive and be interviewed and accepted, you will be on your own money for months until your first pay starts and the process will never be explained to you and it will drive you crazy!!!
As for people they have hired in the recent past, well it is amazing that they pride them self on hiring the best, but in my class of 12 only 2 are left in less then 1 year and the ones left
So, get on at Saudia and them take them for a ride and use the system to take them for a ride. As it is not enjoyable there and the locals don;t want you there, so get them before they get you!!!
If you need other details get in touch. Saudia is the worse in the ME to work for and definetly don't listen to the MUTT responses.
The advert and what is listed at what you will get for pay and benefits is true lies!!! If you are selected for interview it will be either in JED, Cairo or in Europe probably Paris and you will be told that your flight and expenses will be reembursed. Mr B K, HR Rep will send a letter guarenteeing this, but this too is true lies. This money will never be reembursed as mine never was.
As for when you arrive and be interviewed and accepted, you will be on your own money for months until your first pay starts and the process will never be explained to you and it will drive you crazy!!!
As for people they have hired in the recent past, well it is amazing that they pride them self on hiring the best, but in my class of 12 only 2 are left in less then 1 year and the ones left
So, get on at Saudia and them take them for a ride and use the system to take them for a ride. As it is not enjoyable there and the locals don;t want you there, so get them before they get you!!!
If you need other details get in touch. Saudia is the worse in the ME to work for and definetly don't listen to the MUTT responses.
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MUTT is, IMHO, one of the most sober and factual guys on this site, and he is the only one I trust when it comes to facts about working in SA.
For the rest of your rant, well, I wait for MUTT to comment.
For the rest of your rant, well, I wait for MUTT to comment.
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Zero, you are a little sad man...
Have been around for 13 years and would have done it again if someone rolls time back to 1999.
Sure, it's nice to be a senior captain with a western flag carrier. But, if you are not, then Saudia is a good place to be. I survived two major downturns here, earned tonnes of $ and had a very vibrant life. Well, you have to accept some local particularities and be patient to see you basic salary and benefits high enough to completely forget you first year impression. If you can not, then... you are a little sad man
Have been around for 13 years and would have done it again if someone rolls time back to 1999.
Sure, it's nice to be a senior captain with a western flag carrier. But, if you are not, then Saudia is a good place to be. I survived two major downturns here, earned tonnes of $ and had a very vibrant life. Well, you have to accept some local particularities and be patient to see you basic salary and benefits high enough to completely forget you first year impression. If you can not, then... you are a little sad man
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You are not from the West are you?
Why did you feel the need to spread rumors about a western Captain and possible bootlegging? Why did you feel the need to mention the Wednesday night club? Do you really think no Westerner has ever made booze here before? What do you care??
Are you trying to make life harder for the Westerners that actually do live and work here?
All of these things have happened for decades here. The locals turn a blind eye as long as it is not thrown in their face.
As for your comments about smoking the "stuff". I have only seen Arab nationals in the compound smoking the "stuff".
You really are the one with the questionable character. Outing people by name on this site because you were not happy with your employment decisions.
***hole
Why did you feel the need to spread rumors about a western Captain and possible bootlegging? Why did you feel the need to mention the Wednesday night club? Do you really think no Westerner has ever made booze here before? What do you care??
Are you trying to make life harder for the Westerners that actually do live and work here?
All of these things have happened for decades here. The locals turn a blind eye as long as it is not thrown in their face.
As for your comments about smoking the "stuff". I have only seen Arab nationals in the compound smoking the "stuff".
You really are the one with the questionable character. Outing people by name on this site because you were not happy with your employment decisions.
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Considering that the person mentioned is extremely hospitable, I’m sure that you as a classmate enjoyed some of that hospitality, and yet here you are spreading “incorrect truths” about him. Then you start complaining that other colleagues are going home on medical and emergency leave but continue to get paid, all you are achieving is that you are making life difficult for the next guy who really NEEDS to go home for medical……..
The part about the interview ticket etc, we have been warning people about that for the last 3 years on this site, so there is no point in you crying about it now.
Your post says more about your lack of character than the company!
Mutt
The part about the interview ticket etc, we have been warning people about that for the last 3 years on this site, so there is no point in you crying about it now.
Your post says more about your lack of character than the company!
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Mr. Zero sounds exactly like his name, i worked with saudia for 12 very short years and i love every minute of it truly speaking i regret leaving such a nice employer and great colleagues with whom i enjoyed working and thats why when ever somebody ask me how long have you worked for saudia my answer always is "12 short years"
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My, you really are a little pussy!
Perhaps you are from a well known 3rd world country that prides itself on the ability to kiss @ss, whereas most of us from the west recognize job security is directly related to COMPETENCE!
Here's the true facts. Bid your schedule, fly that schedule, get out of Jeddah on days off, save your money and join long list pilots who funded their retirements in 20 years or less at Saudia.
Of course, this advice is for men, which kinda leaves you out!
Perhaps you are from a well known 3rd world country that prides itself on the ability to kiss @ss, whereas most of us from the west recognize job security is directly related to COMPETENCE!
Here's the true facts. Bid your schedule, fly that schedule, get out of Jeddah on days off, save your money and join long list pilots who funded their retirements in 20 years or less at Saudia.
Of course, this advice is for men, which kinda leaves you out!
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So a guy can't vent his frustration with Saudia....
BUT the original message was edited by a moderator, what you didn't see and what others were replying to, was that MrZero personally attacked and NAMED one of his class mates and accused him of certain illegal acts, he also went on to attack others for their actions, one of them might actually be you!
So you see, if he attacked the company, we dont care...... but attacking his colleagues, thats is pretty nasty.
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Wow!
Mr Zero This is no way of venting out your frustration, lets be honest guys. The world in not perfect.
Yes Saudia is an airline with its short falls and It will be like that for the rest of eternity its up to you "HE WHO WANTS TO WORK" to decide whether to join saudia or not.
Saudia Pays its employees on time every month and this will not change either, they do get late in paying overtime etc... but never has it ever happened that the concerned person didnt get paid.
As for Mr B K, I am yet to come across a human being as accomodating and helpful as him, keeping in mind that he single handedly recruits the entire airlines FDC. One should not forget he is just human, not some superhero from Marvel comics. As with other things I think every Pilot thinking of working with Saudia should know that, BK is also an expat and does not have control on finances and other departments which are handled by The Saudi's who for a Fact only work 30 minutes in an 8 hour workday.
That btw goes for pretty much all the departments at Saudia and even some other organistations.
Therefore for those who want to work in KSA then face it !
Or Else go to ................EK ........EY............the list goes on !
Yes Saudia is an airline with its short falls and It will be like that for the rest of eternity its up to you "HE WHO WANTS TO WORK" to decide whether to join saudia or not.
Saudia Pays its employees on time every month and this will not change either, they do get late in paying overtime etc... but never has it ever happened that the concerned person didnt get paid.
As for Mr B K, I am yet to come across a human being as accomodating and helpful as him, keeping in mind that he single handedly recruits the entire airlines FDC. One should not forget he is just human, not some superhero from Marvel comics. As with other things I think every Pilot thinking of working with Saudia should know that, BK is also an expat and does not have control on finances and other departments which are handled by The Saudi's who for a Fact only work 30 minutes in an 8 hour workday.
That btw goes for pretty much all the departments at Saudia and even some other organistations.
Therefore for those who want to work in KSA then face it !
Or Else go to ................EK ........EY............the list goes on !
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Just to back up what Mutt said above.
The angry replies were to the accusations and personal tone the OP took with his original posting, before it was edited.
There is plenty to vent about at SVA, I just see no need to try and take down other people with unwarranted accusations.
The angry replies were to the accusations and personal tone the OP took with his original posting, before it was edited.
There is plenty to vent about at SVA, I just see no need to try and take down other people with unwarranted accusations.
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well i did my interview with Saudia in two parts (December and February). 12 days after my DEC assessment they sent the money in my account . for the February assessment they asked whether i need them within the next days or a total reimbursement at my starting date (April) along with some other expenses ( Medical exams for Visa etc). I went with option #2 and as i have been told from guys who already work fro SV there is absolutely no reason to worry
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Hmm. I don't think so!
It's an Arab country, with radical laws, no rights for women, a weird religion and horrible weather. They must pay well to put up with that.
I'll tell my educated, very intellectual and very independent liberal european wife that we are moving to the middle east to live in a compound. LOL I'll tell you later how that went. LOL
I'll tell my educated, very intellectual and very independent liberal european wife that we are moving to the middle east to live in a compound. LOL I'll tell you later how that went. LOL
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Hi guys,
I have been trying to aply to Saudia but everytime I try to log in it says I already have an account I have tried with 3 different e-mails I have tried to retrieve my password with 3 different e-mails and still it just says " the info you have entered is incorrect" my soul is broken trying to apply ha, can someone give an inside e-mail address i can e-mail to try resolve this issue or even a phone number to call them...? the PPJN number is out dated now,
Thanks Gents
Also can you commute home working with Saudia? what are the blocks of offs like?
I have been trying to aply to Saudia but everytime I try to log in it says I already have an account I have tried with 3 different e-mails I have tried to retrieve my password with 3 different e-mails and still it just says " the info you have entered is incorrect" my soul is broken trying to apply ha, can someone give an inside e-mail address i can e-mail to try resolve this issue or even a phone number to call them...? the PPJN number is out dated now,
Thanks Gents
Also can you commute home working with Saudia? what are the blocks of offs like?
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Saudi application
I was sent an application form by Saudi direct entry Captain on the Embraer 170. Any info what happens next are they actively looking crews and what to expect next. Thanks in advance
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Chirpy Pilot
I am not sure about E170 but in general, responding back to applicants is a sign of serious need of experience such as yours. Once they get your application they will call you for 3-4 days screening. it consists 50 questions of ATPL and 10 questions general knowledge written tests, panel interview, and medical check. Some 4 weeks later they inform candidates the result. You must get employment visa from Saudi Embassy in your country of citizenship, not country of residence. Plan ahead. Obtaining medical report for the embassy may take time.
Best of luck!
Best of luck!