Is war likely with Iran? Consequences for EK?
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Originally Posted by swan man
There are lot's of places where it is better and many of us have flown at those airlines. You have only flown at places that take jobs from those good airlines, thanking God every day that you have a "job".
Another ruddy idiot on the ME forum
Some time ago I noticed the Iranian dows filling up with cargo on the quayside in Derra. Everything from food to printers to the latest tvs. If you went further down you would see the Somali dows filling up with cargo, which included a car or two precariously loaded on an imbalanced dow. I guess this is one way of getting round sanctions that various organisations try and impose.
I can't see that stopping in the near future.
I can't see that stopping in the near future.
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JFK etc etc
This speech was performed 3 days after the ' unordered ' bay of pigs 'by JFK'.....
And the rabbit hole goes much deeper than you can handle , IF you discard systematically your governments corruptness,dishonest intentions (with foreign nations or with YOU for that matter)etc.etc.etc....btw with your government i mean literally anybody who is reading this coz it is NOT nationality restricted!!! any nationality, country and RELIGION goes.....
Do not forget humans have a defensive mechanism;
something beyond comprehension WILL automatically be rejected as nonsense, hence if the conspiracy is big enough it will become a theory = unreal (=hitler).
Give em a half a cup at a time, if they are still thirsty give em the remaining half of it (the truth) (confucius).
These thing you are talking about are so big and the preps for it have been started centuries ago by these men (protocols of the le@rned eld@rs of zoin) , that you cannot even give em a half a cup which is already too much.
' YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH '........ is a sentence used frequently in hollywood movies directly controlled by the very same people behind the scenes.......
I understand your motives to arouse, because if it succeeds it effects HUMANITY (no borders,no nationality no religion etc etc) and there will be no way back. Live is a giant chess game, the result is decided in the begin phases of it. The trained eye can see it coming but the sheep will proceed in an orderly fashion one step at a time to the slaughter house........ Reality is blurred and unintentional support for the wrong side due to lack of knowledge of the TRUTH will consequently make the very same people supporting the system obsolete.....in time and in sequence...
For us the options are slim to none, I am still looking myself. One thing is for sure no-participation from my side!!!
And the rabbit hole goes much deeper than you can handle , IF you discard systematically your governments corruptness,dishonest intentions (with foreign nations or with YOU for that matter)etc.etc.etc....btw with your government i mean literally anybody who is reading this coz it is NOT nationality restricted!!! any nationality, country and RELIGION goes.....
Do not forget humans have a defensive mechanism;
something beyond comprehension WILL automatically be rejected as nonsense, hence if the conspiracy is big enough it will become a theory = unreal (=hitler).
Give em a half a cup at a time, if they are still thirsty give em the remaining half of it (the truth) (confucius).
These thing you are talking about are so big and the preps for it have been started centuries ago by these men (protocols of the le@rned eld@rs of zoin) , that you cannot even give em a half a cup which is already too much.
' YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH '........ is a sentence used frequently in hollywood movies directly controlled by the very same people behind the scenes.......
I understand your motives to arouse, because if it succeeds it effects HUMANITY (no borders,no nationality no religion etc etc) and there will be no way back. Live is a giant chess game, the result is decided in the begin phases of it. The trained eye can see it coming but the sheep will proceed in an orderly fashion one step at a time to the slaughter house........ Reality is blurred and unintentional support for the wrong side due to lack of knowledge of the TRUTH will consequently make the very same people supporting the system obsolete.....in time and in sequence...
For us the options are slim to none, I am still looking myself. One thing is for sure no-participation from my side!!!
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I have to correct you on the message of JFK (I have listened to this speech over and over and over again)
His message is for MANKIND not the USA only,... last sentence.
His message is for MANKIND not the USA only,... last sentence.
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The propaganda plan is falling apart
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Preparation for war?
Interesting development.
New US battle strategy against Iran in US movements and Israeli drill
Todays meeting:
The GCC summit which began in Riyadh on the same day had three key items on its agenda: Iran’s military, political and covert threat to the region’s stability; the Syrian crisis; and unification steps between Saudi Arabia and Bahrain to ward off Iranian interference in the Shiite-led unrest.
New US battle strategy against Iran in US movements and Israeli drill
Todays meeting:
The GCC summit which began in Riyadh on the same day had three key items on its agenda: Iran’s military, political and covert threat to the region’s stability; the Syrian crisis; and unification steps between Saudi Arabia and Bahrain to ward off Iranian interference in the Shiite-led unrest.
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Sal-e,
I'm assuming you have a modicum of understanding when it comes to history, regional and international politics as well as how this unstable and complex area of the world operates.
Firstly, I agree entirely with your question, actually its a rhetorical question, every military constantly prepares for war as that is ultimately the eventual outcome when all other political avenues/patience has been spent.
The real question must be what type of conflict would be fought, clearly Iran is outmatched in terms of her conventional arsenal but has some marginal tactical advantages in terms of her willingness or otherwise to use unconventional tactics/weapons.
If a conflict were to erupt, I'd expect Irans ability to do anything other than nuisance raids or attacks to be degraded in fairly short order, yes a surprise or two might eventuate from her, but ultimately she has neither the materia'l or resources with respect to technology or sustainability to be anything other than a paper tiger.
That being said, military doctrine is a mult-faceted beast, the US and her allies will be continuing to assess the threats as they see them and will be or already have developed tactics to counter an unconventional foe, don't forget that the US military has come a long way since Somalia, and have evolved through bitter experience to be a very effective fighting force against unconventional forces.
Iran knows this, the US knows this, as do all the GCC countries and Israel etc.
If anything, any skirmishes will be limited in scope and location due to the Iranian lack of any sustainability, the big fear will be co-ordinated terror like attacks on key installations by Iranian special Ops units around the region.
Iran wants a seat at the big boys table, it seeks to dominate the region as it try's to extend its influence.
Ultimately the Iranians are a pretty shrewd bunch, they know that if they push too hard things will snowball and be ultimately self defeating.
I would be surprised if a conflict were to start.
I'm assuming you have a modicum of understanding when it comes to history, regional and international politics as well as how this unstable and complex area of the world operates.
Firstly, I agree entirely with your question, actually its a rhetorical question, every military constantly prepares for war as that is ultimately the eventual outcome when all other political avenues/patience has been spent.
The real question must be what type of conflict would be fought, clearly Iran is outmatched in terms of her conventional arsenal but has some marginal tactical advantages in terms of her willingness or otherwise to use unconventional tactics/weapons.
If a conflict were to erupt, I'd expect Irans ability to do anything other than nuisance raids or attacks to be degraded in fairly short order, yes a surprise or two might eventuate from her, but ultimately she has neither the materia'l or resources with respect to technology or sustainability to be anything other than a paper tiger.
That being said, military doctrine is a mult-faceted beast, the US and her allies will be continuing to assess the threats as they see them and will be or already have developed tactics to counter an unconventional foe, don't forget that the US military has come a long way since Somalia, and have evolved through bitter experience to be a very effective fighting force against unconventional forces.
Iran knows this, the US knows this, as do all the GCC countries and Israel etc.
If anything, any skirmishes will be limited in scope and location due to the Iranian lack of any sustainability, the big fear will be co-ordinated terror like attacks on key installations by Iranian special Ops units around the region.
Iran wants a seat at the big boys table, it seeks to dominate the region as it try's to extend its influence.
Ultimately the Iranians are a pretty shrewd bunch, they know that if they push too hard things will snowball and be ultimately self defeating.
I would be surprised if a conflict were to start.
Last edited by falconeasydriver; 16th May 2012 at 08:48.
