Emirates specific questions....
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Just a correction, whossorrynow's figures for captain's pay are not correct, they're optimistic by about 5,000AED.
Basic salary for captains is 36,140AED (about $9840USD). With 84 hours @60AED = 5100AED, that equals 41240AED (about $11,300 USD).
That is how the figure on the career website is derived.
The figures listed earlier take the basic, 85 hours of flight pay, and THEN add another 75 hours on top. As much as EK would love to wring 160 hours/month out of their slaves, even they can't do that. I'm not sure why you were given the figures you were, except that I would hazard a guess that as usual, the people giving all sorts of advice about Emirates...don't actually work there.
These figures are before any deductions. Which are correct. As far as allowances, they're pretty much exactly what any unhealthy hotel meal costs, at whatever discounted rate EK could negotiate. Wouldn't count too much on getting rich off the per diems, if you can keep your BMI in check consider yourself ahead.
So no, you won't be making near 12,000USD/month. Put it another way, an EK captain makes less than 10k/month basic to operate a widebody. If you're really making 18k to live in a real country you have to be insane to even give it a thought.
Basic salary for captains is 36,140AED (about $9840USD). With 84 hours @60AED = 5100AED, that equals 41240AED (about $11,300 USD).
That is how the figure on the career website is derived.
Captain: Monthly Salary Dhs 41,240 (Basic Salary plus Hourly Flying Pay based on 85 block hours per month)
These figures are before any deductions. Which are correct. As far as allowances, they're pretty much exactly what any unhealthy hotel meal costs, at whatever discounted rate EK could negotiate. Wouldn't count too much on getting rich off the per diems, if you can keep your BMI in check consider yourself ahead.
So no, you won't be making near 12,000USD/month. Put it another way, an EK captain makes less than 10k/month basic to operate a widebody. If you're really making 18k to live in a real country you have to be insane to even give it a thought.
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If whosorry is to be believed(and i have no reason to do otherwise), approx 11.5k pm plus layover allowances plus your profit sharing. Optimistically 11.5+1+1=13.5k usd pm for 75 hrs flying and average layovers of 15 days @70usd/day(approx), and 1k pm profit share. At 13.5 k Usd pm why on god's green earth do you fellas work in the pit, sacrificing your lifestyles as such. Unless the standard of living ir really really cheap, i just don't get it. And I THOUGHT I WAS GETTING THE sad end of he stick. Wow.
Suddenly it's all falling in place.
And if nolim is to be believed, i'm at a loss of words. Lemme check the brief again....
Suddenly it's all falling in place.
And if nolim is to be believed, i'm at a loss of words. Lemme check the brief again....
If whosorry is to be believed(and i have no reason to do otherwise...)
The allowances are for time at the out-station, not time away from base, most layovers are 24 hours, 4 or 5, maybe 6 a month.
Last edited by whossorrynow; 31st Mar 2012 at 09:53. Reason: I thought 11-12,000 was pretty derisory, seems it's really 10-11,000.
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Question about applying.
6000 total. 2200 jet PIC, standards captain. Biggest jet flown is a CRJ200.
Would a 777 type help getting an interview and a certified international course help too?
6000 total. 2200 jet PIC, standards captain. Biggest jet flown is a CRJ200.
Would a 777 type help getting an interview and a certified international course help too?
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Bunktime,
By what I hear approx 14k Usd PM seems to be the norm here for a 777 driver. Which, if true is at least 20% below the international salary norm for a widebody captain.
Now one of my own. Presume that I take a fully furnished villa from the company. Do i have a choice of where i can take it. Also, has there ever been a situation where the company has asked a captain to vacate or change his villa due administrative reasons?
Can a pilot do the same. That is,request for a change of accomodation, say after 1-2 years if say the villa is below par in some way.
Considering the move seriously. Dont know if the poor salary helps tho. Hopefully it will be negated by the not so high living cost in dubai i presume...
By what I hear approx 14k Usd PM seems to be the norm here for a 777 driver. Which, if true is at least 20% below the international salary norm for a widebody captain.
Now one of my own. Presume that I take a fully furnished villa from the company. Do i have a choice of where i can take it. Also, has there ever been a situation where the company has asked a captain to vacate or change his villa due administrative reasons?
Can a pilot do the same. That is,request for a change of accomodation, say after 1-2 years if say the villa is below par in some way.
Considering the move seriously. Dont know if the poor salary helps tho. Hopefully it will be negated by the not so high living cost in dubai i presume...
Jungle drums say 330 transition courses end in Oct 2012. Another two 330s painted white and parked near engineering about to be handed back to owners. I wonder who will pick up those late night turns to India?
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@Contracted
I have one kid in high school. Doesn't seem worth it bro...
Just too low on the salary. Wonder who they would attract.
No way, anybody in the normal world. Sadly.
Though I would love to join. But the pay n perks just ain't worth it. Not even close to what i'm getting right now ..
Off to mah erdinger now ..
I have one kid in high school. Doesn't seem worth it bro...
Just too low on the salary. Wonder who they would attract.
No way, anybody in the normal world. Sadly.
Though I would love to join. But the pay n perks just ain't worth it. Not even close to what i'm getting right now ..
Off to mah erdinger now ..
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Contacted, whilst your numbers seem to be close they are far from correct. Overheads constitute a decent percentage of an EK pilot's salary.
Bunktime, your questions are very appropriate and valid. Sadly,if 13-14k Usd PM is less than the world average, then we should be doing something about it, should we not.
Once(if)you join up, why don't you access for yourself what your take home is and then what your average savings are. I'd say give it six months. And then we can have another chat either on this same forum or on the email i'm pm'ing you.
I foresee a correction in the pilots salaries/allowances for the better in the near future.
Like i always say, just my thinking....
Please give out concise information to these pilots who are merely trying to ease out your fatigue levels and maybe in the process get you a salary hike.
Take a few deep breaths and try some patience for a change guys. It always pays in the long run.
Trust me ..
Bunktime, your questions are very appropriate and valid. Sadly,if 13-14k Usd PM is less than the world average, then we should be doing something about it, should we not.
Once(if)you join up, why don't you access for yourself what your take home is and then what your average savings are. I'd say give it six months. And then we can have another chat either on this same forum or on the email i'm pm'ing you.
I foresee a correction in the pilots salaries/allowances for the better in the near future.
Like i always say, just my thinking....
Please give out concise information to these pilots who are merely trying to ease out your fatigue levels and maybe in the process get you a salary hike.
Take a few deep breaths and try some patience for a change guys. It always pays in the long run.
Trust me ..
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I may have over stated it when i said 'far from correct'. But a 10-20% off target is more like it. Don't you think.
But i know you mean well. And that's what matters. Thanks for the timely info to all concerned.
But i know you mean well. And that's what matters. Thanks for the timely info to all concerned.
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Somebody mentioned dubai being a cheap city. It is definitely not inexpensive. Food, utilities, hotels, leisure activities, trips to the coffee shop, etc will all most likely cost you much more than you are used to. The only cheap things in dubai are related to labor. You can get your car washed for 20 aed or find a maid from a poverty stricken country to clean your house for next to nothing. Everything else will cost you quite handsomely.
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It's all relative to where you come from.
Cost of Living Comparison Between Dubai, United Arab Emirates And London, United Kingdom
Anyway I'm heading out Friday. Heard its a bit hot!
Cost of Living Comparison Between Dubai, United Arab Emirates And London, United Kingdom
Anyway I'm heading out Friday. Heard its a bit hot!
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A380 Jock......nice name......
Got some friends n colleagues in the pit. No one seems to be making more than about 12 to 12.5K usd pm(not including housing and education).
Is that at all true.
My current take home after taxes is close to 16K usd(company accomo ie hotel rooms and one kid education taken care of).
How do you come to a figure of 14k. If that be it, then here i come...
Had completely trashed the thought after reading what they offered. But now i don't know. Might just be worth it eh.
Got some friends n colleagues in the pit. No one seems to be making more than about 12 to 12.5K usd pm(not including housing and education).
Is that at all true.
My current take home after taxes is close to 16K usd(company accomo ie hotel rooms and one kid education taken care of).
How do you come to a figure of 14k. If that be it, then here i come...
Had completely trashed the thought after reading what they offered. But now i don't know. Might just be worth it eh.
I salute your patience Contacted.
As has been stated several times We get paid a meal allowance, it will vary from $20 to $100 per night. It is based on the discounted menu price for whatever meals you are on base for. Some destinations have no allowance as the meals are provided.
No one can give an average for the profit share as it has varied for zero weeks to 14 weeks.
Contacted has provided accurate salary details.
The Don
As has been stated several times We get paid a meal allowance, it will vary from $20 to $100 per night. It is based on the discounted menu price for whatever meals you are on base for. Some destinations have no allowance as the meals are provided.
No one can give an average for the profit share as it has varied for zero weeks to 14 weeks.
Contacted has provided accurate salary details.
The Don