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Old 4th Nov 2011, 03:33
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But as for the single exit permits, do you get them faster? Or do you need to wait just as long?
Single exit permits will take up to 3 working days to get after approval. Problem is. They are valid normally for 1 exit within 7 days, if not used by then it becomes invalid. If for some reason you get a ticket go thru immigration but refused at the gate due to load restrictions or anyother reason.. Because you have already passed immigration your exit permit is considered used and becomes invalid for any other exits despite the fact you actually didn't exit.
Only 1 exit permit is issued at any given time so you would then have to reapply.

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Anytime you hear.... After training... It most always means after final line check. There is no telling on a time frame, some go thru in 2 to 3 months and some take greater than 6 months.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 14:22
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Thanx for the info. So in case the training takes several months, is it not possible to come back home for few days at all or they let you go?
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 16:22
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someone said that it s possible to request the multiply Visa after the training...what doesn it means?
Before the multiple exit you need a residence permit, which it might be as long as 2 month! And NO, without exit you cannot leave the country.
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Old 5th Nov 2011, 14:57
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Exit Visas

I believe that the majority of expats who take up employment in Qatar do not really understand the nature of the place, and do not realise that they will essentially be considered as 'slaves' by their employers.

If you are considering working in Qatar, you’d better make sure that you understand and are prepared to comply with all contract terms to the letter before you accept any contract.

Make no mistake, Qatari employers will hold their expat employees strictly to their contract terms, regardless of any other considerations.

Qatar does have a 'labour law', but conveniently (for them!), this law does not apply to Qatari government employees, and all companies operating in Qatar have a strong connection with Qatari government bodies.

You should understand what that means…

As far as I am aware, Qatar has some of the most restrictive laws of all the Mid East/GCC countries regarding exit visas for expat employees, in particular the issue of multiple exit/re-entry visas.

Some examples: Any expat working in Saudi Arabia can obtain a multi exit/re-entry visa through his sponsor/employer without too much trouble, once he has obtained his resident's permit. He just has to pay the visa cost to his sponsor/employer.

In the UAE, once a resident's permit is obtained the holder can exit and re-enter the UAE freely, provided that the holder does not spend more than six months out of the UAE during the RP's validity.

Can the holder of a Qatar residents permit obtain exit/re-entry visas so easily? Well I suppose it depends on who you know, but not many Benny…

Compared to other GCC countries, Qatar has a lot of catching up to do.

Beware!

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Old 5th Nov 2011, 17:00
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Normally i don't mind to work overthere. But the exit visa is THE thing that afraids me the most. As long that is not more flexible i'm reluctant to apply.

Recently i heard the story of a Belgian who was stuck overthere. Belgian authorities did everything to get him out without any succes. Final result was that he had to escape with help of friends.
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Old 5th Nov 2011, 17:32
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Perhaps he had some issues with the authorities?! Should be a reason for that
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Old 5th Nov 2011, 19:22
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The only thing i know that there was a dissagreement between him and employer. Employer refused to sign for exit visa. So yes, it can happen!
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 22:22
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They want to be sure that you dont have some un-closed loans of something like that , before you leave the countrey ... first, before exit, you have to make them sure that you are not obliged for something ...

that is the reason
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Old 7th Nov 2011, 02:32
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Jet Ranger, that doesn't make sense, almost all of us are going to have loans, most people in this day and age have loans, with cars, credit cars etc.

And then add on top of that that most of us will be bonded. So are you saying we can not leave for 4 or 5 years until we pay off our loans?

I think it has more to do with whether your company trusts you or not. if you have threatened to leave or seem to be on your way out then the company has the opportunity to block you.
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Old 7th Nov 2011, 21:55
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its more about if you took loans in qatar, especially company loans (some companies give you a better rate than a bank) then they dont want you to just disappear...
usually your exit permit will not be denied. you apply for vacation and additionally for an exit permit. not a problem at all. as both goes on one request. so for you its just one tick mark in another box on a request sheet. if you need to go during off days, fill out a request form and mark the tick under exit permit and enter the leaving date.
this is just a method for the company to have control. you go and work there, so you are being guest not local. as pilot and if you read the above, you just apply for multiple exit permit every year and thats it - done. if thats the only thing that bugs you, check out the webpages online where you can listen to all the phonecalls anyone made in qatar... thats how it is. accept it or leave it. therefore the crimerate there equals almost 0.

and to your question. as soon as you finished your probation period you get you can request the stuff...

in short: qatar = you live there to work, not to enjoy the country. good pay, new aircraft, international crews, uprising company, as good as no hr.
in my opinion some ppl are in need to experience the culture instead of blocking straight away. it can be interesting.
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Old 7th Nov 2011, 22:50
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Multiple exit permit

Good post Tritzo..With my permit, I average from 2 to 3 trips home for a few days off in a month aside from my scheduled layover flights. No problems whatsoever. Whats to beware of. Keep your nose clean, as one would do in any other country, and all runs smoothly.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 07:14
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Hey folks... There is absolutely nothing to worry about with regard to the exit visa. I used to live there for many years and I had no trouble at all getting the exit visa, for either myself or my mates there. Remember that a respectable and big employers like QR wouldn't get you in legal troubles unless you ask for it! Well, things may go wrong sometimes with some people! But if you dig deeper, there must have been something wrong as well that they've done. So just make sure that you don't walk in the dirt... Life then would be easy!


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Wink ;)

finally someone thinking positively who makes people less worryed joining QR!!!
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 14:29
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Guys,
I've been here 6+ years already, and not a single problem leaving the country on days off.
Consider the 500 QAR for the multiple exit permit as an investment for a piece of mind.
Just the simple fact that you have it and can go anywhere you please on your day off (even if you don't actually do it) is priceless!
More to the point, you'll be required to get the E-pass, to be used at the e-Gates, which saves you a lot of hastle going out or comming in the country, and ALSO requires that you hold a multi exit permit.
And to wrapt it up - RELAX! Normal people live here, as everywhere else (and some qiute crazy ones, also as everywhere else)!
Cheers!
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 18:00
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Gotta say...no trouble leaving at all! Got four days off....so headed back home this evening. No hassles....

Please don't make this out to be more than it really is, just because it is different to how you are used to. Most people dislike things they don't understand.

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Old 9th Nov 2011, 19:45
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Hi all,
On a slightly different subject... I am moving out in January and have had all the recommended jabs for living in Qatar, but was advised that as I would be travelling into yellow fever areas etc that I have that... As well as rabies and hepB too.
Do Qatar Airways do these for us? Or do they pay for these?
What has everyone else done?
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 20:07
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Good to see you are treating your health with respect.
I got Hepp. and was off for six months and damn near died before the days of the Heppie jab.
Mates got malaria big time and neither of us were ever really 100% the same health wise after those.
Allow for 6 monthly dental hygiene cleaning.... as a private patient down route...flying rosters in the past made it impossible for Gulf based pilots to keep or make dental appointments with the company dentist.
I understand today poor dental hygiene is considered a risk that contributes to potential future heart problems...and you do not need these.
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 15:33
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Do Qatar Airways do these for us? Or do they pay for these?
I'm affraid the first answer is No. Not sure about the latter.

The medical insurance (Alliance) is very good, but I haven't checked to see if this will cover jabs/boosters etc....

My advise would be to get this all done before you come....I would guess that the insurance won't cover it, but I'm not certain.

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Old 11th Nov 2011, 17:55
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I had the Yellow fever shot last year, before we started flying to GRU and I did this in Doha.
The shot itself was free, I just had to pay like 10 QAR ( less than 3 USD ) to get the "passport" - a little orange booklet, in which they put an entry with a signature and a stamp to sertify I've got the jab. It's not Qatar Airways, it's a goverment Agency.
And Allianz was not even mentioned.
Cheers!
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 20:58
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Originally Posted by capt krunch
keep in mind when given a multi exit permit the company reserves the right to suspend the privilege.. meaning, if your a bad boy the company will and can block or suspend your exit permit, Thus you will not be able to leave the country.
So who in their right mind?????????????????????????????????????????

And it's 'you're a bad boy' not 'your'
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