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It would seem your issue is not with QR, but with other factors beyond QR's control. For example...
1. Your indignant attitude towards a person's background or culture that is different from yours. Your crappy attitude makes anybody of a different culture far superior than your Neanderthal mentality. For many Qataris, there is not a need for them to work, especially in a "service" position. Another factor you fail to realize, is the Qataris make up about 20% of the whole population of Doha. The majority of the population are Indians & Filipinos. Although there are challenges they face everyday, they are hard workers who appreciate the opportunities that had been given to them (unlike you and people like you who come here complaining about the housing allowance).
2. Speaking on housing, there are housing available. To what degree will depend on your own living standards, which yours seem to be unrealistically high. It is required by law that all companies hiring Expats offer housing allowance base on a percentage of the employees salary; if company housing is not available. Beyond that percentage is the goodwill of the company. If you think the housing allowance is not enough, than that's a personal problem. To come to a country expecting to be housed in luxury is very naive. QR can not control the housing market. Supply and demand dictates the market. If there is a demand, which the market is taking notice with all the construction that is taken place, the supply is being built, therefore prices will come down.
On more than one occasion, you mention people should go to EK, rather than come here. News flash, EK is not a perfect airline! They, too, have their internal problems as well. This includes, rostering, salary, etc. But you would know this since you DON'T work for them. As for the pilots salaries comparison, its quite clear in the calculator there is really no big advantage over one or the other. The salaries and allowances are about the same. The provident fund is nice, but to take advantage of this benefit, you would need a tenure of 7 years or more. (It would seem unlikely that you would make it that long with your crappy attitude.)
So now what's left, lifestyle. Doha vs Dubai, which Dubai hands down takes the award at the moment. But over time, Doha is slowly getting there. Lets keep in mind, Dubai was not created overnight! Don't expect Doha to be like Dubai overnight.
Now with all that being said, I think you would agree there is NOT one airline flying today that is perfect!
1. Your indignant attitude towards a person's background or culture that is different from yours. Your crappy attitude makes anybody of a different culture far superior than your Neanderthal mentality. For many Qataris, there is not a need for them to work, especially in a "service" position. Another factor you fail to realize, is the Qataris make up about 20% of the whole population of Doha. The majority of the population are Indians & Filipinos. Although there are challenges they face everyday, they are hard workers who appreciate the opportunities that had been given to them (unlike you and people like you who come here complaining about the housing allowance).
2. Speaking on housing, there are housing available. To what degree will depend on your own living standards, which yours seem to be unrealistically high. It is required by law that all companies hiring Expats offer housing allowance base on a percentage of the employees salary; if company housing is not available. Beyond that percentage is the goodwill of the company. If you think the housing allowance is not enough, than that's a personal problem. To come to a country expecting to be housed in luxury is very naive. QR can not control the housing market. Supply and demand dictates the market. If there is a demand, which the market is taking notice with all the construction that is taken place, the supply is being built, therefore prices will come down.
On more than one occasion, you mention people should go to EK, rather than come here. News flash, EK is not a perfect airline! They, too, have their internal problems as well. This includes, rostering, salary, etc. But you would know this since you DON'T work for them. As for the pilots salaries comparison, its quite clear in the calculator there is really no big advantage over one or the other. The salaries and allowances are about the same. The provident fund is nice, but to take advantage of this benefit, you would need a tenure of 7 years or more. (It would seem unlikely that you would make it that long with your crappy attitude.)
So now what's left, lifestyle. Doha vs Dubai, which Dubai hands down takes the award at the moment. But over time, Doha is slowly getting there. Lets keep in mind, Dubai was not created overnight! Don't expect Doha to be like Dubai overnight.
Now with all that being said, I think you would agree there is NOT one airline flying today that is perfect!
Qatar is the joke airline that people are using for the rating, but because management are indian and the chief pakistani they believe traning is cheaper than keeping current pilots happy.
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Qatar education
Hello everyone,
About the education allowance. Is there an "under age" child restriction, or does the company start paying as soon as the child is born? I read somewhere that they would pay only after 4 years old. How about Kinder garden expenses ( before 4 years old..) ?
And about the bond for Non type Rated (Aiming for FO A-320). You say it starts counting after you finish your line training. So, after the first intervew, and considering that everything works out well, how long for you to do the tests, the A-320 course, and finish the line training ( = start your bond) ? (Average time)
How many days off does one have per year ? ( 42 ? )
In case the candidate is accepted for the initial interview, does the company pay for the flight Europe - Qatar ?
Thanks for your help
About the education allowance. Is there an "under age" child restriction, or does the company start paying as soon as the child is born? I read somewhere that they would pay only after 4 years old. How about Kinder garden expenses ( before 4 years old..) ?
And about the bond for Non type Rated (Aiming for FO A-320). You say it starts counting after you finish your line training. So, after the first intervew, and considering that everything works out well, how long for you to do the tests, the A-320 course, and finish the line training ( = start your bond) ? (Average time)
How many days off does one have per year ? ( 42 ? )
In case the candidate is accepted for the initial interview, does the company pay for the flight Europe - Qatar ?
Thanks for your help
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Hi,
Would anybody please clarify the end of service benefits and the mandatory retirement age in QR. It would also be helpful if you can tell me what the annual salary increase for captains would be and what the maximum salary for captains is.
Also for those of you wondering if I have done my research on the forum, I have and I know what has been written in this thread regarding the 3 weeks for 5 years and 4 weeks for more than 5. I am curious as to whether this is based on each individual years salary or the salary you have when you leave.
Thanks
JR
Would anybody please clarify the end of service benefits and the mandatory retirement age in QR. It would also be helpful if you can tell me what the annual salary increase for captains would be and what the maximum salary for captains is.
Also for those of you wondering if I have done my research on the forum, I have and I know what has been written in this thread regarding the 3 weeks for 5 years and 4 weeks for more than 5. I am curious as to whether this is based on each individual years salary or the salary you have when you leave.
Thanks
JR
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When I was in DXB for the assessment I shared experiences with a USA 747 Captain. He was there to assess as a F/O. He already had at this moment his welcome email as a DEC wide body in QR but he was trying and preferring to join EK as a F/O. And, unfortunately he didn't do it so you will probably fly with him from Doha.
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Hello Everyone!
It's been along time since anybody asked if there is a salary increase on the way any time soon? With the current cost of living and education, I've been asking myself if it even worth staying here anymore?
It's been along time since anybody asked if there is a salary increase on the way any time soon? With the current cost of living and education, I've been asking myself if it even worth staying here anymore?
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Salary rise at Qr just dream on,
Right now the tendency goes rather toward cost cutting there is a rampage campaign in this direction .
Downgrade of layover hotels
No pay on days off ( of course, as usual no official announcement of this latest changes).
Double digit inflation.
Still the carrot and stick rule
Stay safe fly fast and high
TM
Right now the tendency goes rather toward cost cutting there is a rampage campaign in this direction .
Downgrade of layover hotels
No pay on days off ( of course, as usual no official announcement of this latest changes).
Double digit inflation.
Still the carrot and stick rule
Stay safe fly fast and high
TM