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Old 23rd May 2011, 15:50
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Clarification

I don't see where anybody asserts that things like money-laundering and that other stuff are facts. I see people questioning why would a person like Hamed Al Hamed continue to plow money into such an ugly, loss-making company which is dragging his name through the mud, and these things being thrown out there as possible explanations - because it is hard to understand why, without knowing. But nobody has asserted that they know such to be the case.

However, all of the other things listed by Waste Management are, indeed verifiable facts.
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Old 23rd May 2011, 15:55
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Mercenaries in UAE

There are a couple of other threads about this topic, with titles "Somebody's Nervous" and "UAE style".

Not surprisingly, this has not been publicized in the UAE media because it is a very negative development, namely Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi hiring the heinous Yank Erik Prince (remember Blackwater shooting all those innocent Iraqis for sport?) to recruit the most awful mercenaries from around the world, attack dogs ready to slaughter anybody at the order of the Crown Prince. Looks like UAE is going Syria's direction.

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Old 23rd May 2011, 17:18
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with all my respect to all of you, i see all the forum about prestige is all bull****, and all who writes about the company is loosers and idiots, and i beleive they are fit only to be taxi drivers and mechanics not more than that. Prestige Jet is one of the youngest companies in the region, and it has put its name in the aviation market and it has pointed succees, all of you who write about the company, at one day it was the source of funds to feed your kids, and any of you if they where worried about the company it wouldnt reach to this way, but all of you was careless and greedy without ethics, no one has tried to put a small corrective action. So all of you go to hell mother ****ers, idiots and loosers.
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Old 23rd May 2011, 17:34
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Summary of Above

The above can be summarized as:

"with all my respect to all of you, go to hell mother ****ers, idiots and loosers."

Sounds like the management of Prestige Jet is finally reacting, that which is "greedy without ethics", calling some ex-employees who only wish to be paid such. It's called "projection".

Why coming from Lebanon? Ihsan Deeb can't come to UAE, Faris Deeb can't go to Jordan, which one is this? Or maybe this is Jose, the designated attack dog.

As a matter of fact, all of the employees writing here did try - and try very hard - to make things right but they were thwarted. blocked and thrown out - then not paid what was owed them. Dolan, for example, helped start the company and get it certified. What did he get: a notice out of the blue, giving him 12 days to vacate his apartment.

When Prestige Jet honors the Court orders to pay its employees, I'm sure the carping will stop. Until then, it cannot claim to have fed families - only lined the pockets of management.
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Old 23rd May 2011, 17:47
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Not Just Ex-Employees Here

It is not just ex-employees here, there are current employees who would likewise appreciate being paid - and we have not, in three months. We get stuck all over the world due to unpaid bills, aircraft being arrested, no flight plans, no fuel, pressure to work beyond regulated hours, all kinds of nightmares. I think we are doing more for the company than management which luxuriates while the employees suffer.

We also are working hard to improve the company but management neither wants to see or hear us. In fact, GCAA doesn't want to hear about it, either - such as the captain who is illegally flying two different aircraft types, the company covering that up by altering the aircraft logs, listed simulator checks which never took place because the captain was out flying thousands of miles away while the claimed simulator was said to be taken, etc.

GCAA has been made fully aware of such items. Finally there has been some report attempted, but this has been edited by Mr. Faris Deeb himself - who claims no role in the management of the operation (when it suits him, namely to avoid legal responsibility for his actual micromanagement of everything at PJR) but he can edit a GCAA report - and GCAA seems to be doing nothing about such matters.

So, management corrupt, GCAA apparently complicit, employees just want to do their job and get paid, not fly with illegal maniacs and then not get paid for months at a time - and then be sacked without proper dues being paid. What else is there to do but place pressure on the company by letting the world know? Let's keep these threads alive and well, mates!
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Old 23rd May 2011, 20:18
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Expatriate-aviator Most of the pilots and mechanics who have commented on Prestege have probably worked there, and speak from personal experience. SO the next time your sitting on the toilet there in your house in Lebenon, you should think about what you write instead of getting inspiration from what you are dropping out of your ass!
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Old 23rd May 2011, 20:21
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I love it... Expatriate aviator... OK, I give up... which Deeb is this?
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Old 24th May 2011, 07:21
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My moneys on Expatriate Aviatior being the psychotic Spaniard. Such an angry young man.

I love how it starts "With all respect" and finished by calling everyone "mother****ers and looosers"

His lunatic email rants were always a great source of entertainment over drinks on a night stop. The Captain would read them from his Black Berry and we would all laugh.

I understand English is not your first language but it really discredits your argument when it is written in pidgin English.... Looser!

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Old 24th May 2011, 11:57
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Impersonation alert

Someone using gerald-dolan is not me. I have no intention of using this board to slander anyone.
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Old 24th May 2011, 13:33
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Must Be Working...

We have an invective-laced response from management in the "Prestige Jet" thread. That display of the management's attitude toward employees' asking to be paid is a fact.

Asking nicely doesn't work, going to Labour Ministry doesn't work, obtaining a Court order doesn't work. Apparently, putting the name of the Chairman, Hamed Al Hamed, out there as a deadbeat works by his hearing about it through various sources and taking his displeasure out on management, which then responds by baring its venomous attacks on employees in public.

Hey, Hamed - all you have to do is pay your employees and all of this will go away. While you're at it, how about showing proper respect for your Royal Family brethren by honoring the numerous judgments handed down by the Court of Abu Dhabi ordering your company to pay its employees and its former employees their legally-mandated (now Court-ordered) dues. After all, the Court is the representative of YOUR sovereign family; show some respect and obey the Court orders.
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Old 24th May 2011, 15:19
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The Gerald-Dolan Imposter

It seems that "gerald-dolan" merely copied and pasted previous postings, thus re-posting the points made - with one exception: he added something that was censored to one of them.

As this occurred concurrently with the invective-filled response from management in one of the three Prestige Jet threads running, one suspects that this is also PJ management intending to foment mischief using a decent and well-respected person's name. We will soon find out, probably.
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Old 24th May 2011, 15:24
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This is Big Deeb

From the poor language, lack of vocabulary, high stress level, and poor level of intelligence, I can confidently say that this is big "Deeb". He has been known to expose himself and making similar shows in this forum under different names, e.g. Dubai 981, Tayar, etc.
What is hilarious is the conflicting start and end. This is what I meant in the past when I challenged him to write a two sentence paragraph to express anything in clear, clean, simple and civilized language.
Isn't this pitiful?!
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Old 24th May 2011, 15:27
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I agree

I agree and would not put anything past PJ management.
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Old 24th May 2011, 15:36
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Back to the Issue at Hand...

Thanks, KangarooFlyer, for responding the the question about the nastiest mercenaries on Earth being assembled by the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi. Seems a worrisome development to many, either regarding his intentions for it and/or what he is worried about that we don't know - yet.

But, back to the issue at hand: does anybody have an update on our mate who has been charged with misappropriation of funds, as reprisal for his going to Labour Ministry in order to obtain assistance in receiving his pay?
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Old 24th May 2011, 15:51
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Enough already,

WM: Why thank Captain Kangaroo when you are writing from the same computer? And that goes for Freddie too.

Also three other very noisy sign ups in the last 24 hours are all writing from the same computer in the Gulf. If you believe what's wrong should be righted stopped blowing your own credibility by faking ID's and comment.

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Old 24th May 2011, 18:42
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Just report it to the thread moderator. They can't use your real name to write crap.
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Impersonation

My name is Adi Jamil Najjar. Whoever is claiming that he is Adi Jameel Najjar is impersonating for bad intentions to say the least, which is against the rules and ethics of this forum. I am sure that the moderators are more than capable of stopping such acts.
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Old 24th May 2011, 22:27
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Apology & Explanation

Dear PPRuNe Towers,

I apologize if I caused offense. It is true that some of us, who are avid followers of PPRuNe, have signed up recently in order to participate in the discussion about one of our esteemed colleagues being wrongly accused of a serious crime, in retribution for availing himself of his right to request assistance of the Labour Ministry and the Courts regarding what he is owed in salary and other compensation.

You are correct regarding the computer, as KangarooFlyer and I are currently flat mates (by necessity, due to our being in this situation of having not received our pay) and my computer had a disk failure. As you can apparently see with your systems, I have gone to an Internet cafe in order to send this message from a different computer. As for Freddie, I'm sure that his history will demonstrate several computers, including Kangaroo's, as he does ask to use it when he happens by.

I infer that your reference to an additional three PPRuNers using the same computer refers to another computer that has three users. KangarooFlyer's computer has two users and an occasional visitor, but the statement as rendered could lead readers to conclude that six persons are using one computer; the latter is not the case and I wish to clarify this point.

We feel unable to provide our names on this forum at this time, as the CEO of this company has numerous times threatened not only to sack anybody who participates on PPRuNe, but to pursue such persons even after departure from the company, in order to have them arrested for something or other (as he has done to our colleague) and to ensure that we are never permitted to work in UAE or GCC or anywhere else they might have influence, in the the future. Unfortunately for us, with Hamed as his patron, he no doubt is able to accomplish all of this before we could even get to the airport in order to get out of the country, or to have such unpleasantries awaiting us upon our return to the country, without our knowing it in advance.

If you wish us to not participate in this discussion, or in PPRuNe, we certainly will respect your wishes, as we are very thankful, appreciative and respectful of the founders, organizers and staff of PPRuNe for providing us with this opportunity to participate in PPRuNe, which exists, in part, for the purpose of exchanging such information without fear of retribution.

Thank you for your consideration of this explanation, and for your [hoped-for] acceptance of our apologies.We shall endeavour to not offend further.
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I noticed how "Expatriate Aviatior" signed up in May 2011 and has made just 1 rant LOL

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Old 25th May 2011, 18:29
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Is it the cat, or Hamed?

I see that "Expatriate Aviator" has gone silent all of a sudden so soon. I wonder if the cat bit his tongue, or Hamed asked him to swallow it!!
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