Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Middle East
Reload this Page >

Interesting Article on DXB - Vanity Fair April '11

Wikiposts
Search
Middle East Many expats still flying in Knoteetingham. Regional issues can be discussed here.

Interesting Article on DXB - Vanity Fair April '11

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16th Mar 2011, 04:20
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: not in Dubai anymore
Age: 94
Posts: 713
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Interesting Article on DXB - Vanity Fair April '11

Dubai on Empty | Culture | Vanity Fair
GoreTex is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 05:01
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Dubai
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Interesting?

What a load of hyperpole crap. Sure, some aspects are true, but this guy obviously has shares in a company selling mixed metaphores and overused adjectives.

"Among the other 80-plus percent are the white mercenary workers who come here for tax-free salaries to do managerial and entrepreneurial jobs, parasites and sycophants for cash. For them money is a driving principle and validation. They came to be young, single, greedy, and insincere. None of them are very clever. So they live lives that revolve around drink and porn sex and pool parties and barbecues with a lot of hysterical laughing and theme nights, karaoke, and slobbery, regretful coupling."

Talk about generalisation!!!! "None of them are very clever"?....what an arsehole.
"Porn sex"?...where do I sign up for that?
Jeez, this is one of the most one-sided, blatantly exaggerated articles I've ever read. Guess it sells print though. So much for greed.
Kamelchaser is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 05:42
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: HKT
Age: 64
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That guy A.A. Gill is known for his controversial essays, designed to provoke the above reactions, but apart from some generalization he pretty much nails it!
"Dubai suffers from gigantism—a national inferiority complex that has to make everything bigger and biggest"
"The Gulf is the proof of Carnegie’s warning about wealth: “There is no class so pitiably wretched as that which possesses money and nothing else.”
"Dubai is the parable of what money makes when it has no purpose but its own multiplication and grandeur. When the culture that holds it is too frail to contain it. Dubai is a place that doesn’t just know the price of everything and the value of nothing but makes everything worthless. The answer to everything in Dubai is money. "
Schibulsky is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 12:08
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sandy Beach
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Poor research, deliberate distortion of history and facts and a very strong bias.

Just another writer, who wanted to have a trip to Dubai paid for.

The story could have been (was?) written back home based on second hand hearsay.

Sad to see these pseudo intellectuals time after time on a mission without any attempt to understand the true essentials of this city and country.

Wonder what his blood alcohol level was during the trip...

Last edited by OBOGS; 16th Mar 2011 at 17:50. Reason: typo
OBOGS is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 12:34
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Spot on.
There is nothing so vulgar as the displays of excess from those with 'new money'.
vbrules is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 12:46
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Location, location
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
sounds about right to me... but yep it does hurt the ego of the "not too clever" ones
Alessandra is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 12:58
  #7 (permalink)  
DIRECTOR
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: U.K.
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
OBOGS

A A Gill is an alcoholic but no longer drinks because of that!!
thegypsy is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 13:52
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Post-Pit and Lovin' It.
Posts: 863
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's nice to have yet another article to send along when anyone asks what life in Dubai is really like. It may paint with a broad, unflattering brush, but capturing the overall essence of the place? BANG ON.

It amuses how the defenders whine about the "distortion of facts" but neglect to point out which ones they take issue with. Was it the mention of greed? Penis envy? Cultural vacuity?

And to complain about hyperbole when it is used against "Dubai, Inc.", is a bit rich...the place is BUILT on hubris (and not much else, as it is being discovered...)

nolimitholdem is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 14:57
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: FL250
Age: 43
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It did seem all fake

Went on a weeks trip to Dubai to check it out about a year back. Had some free tickets. Was fun ofcourse, getting to the ice mountain, the fancy water parks, the safari dessert.

But something was missing, the essence of a country. Felt kinda odd too, never saw an arab except the ones at the immigration and culture and history, i guess those are just limited to the pictures and crafts at the local museums.

It all just seemed fake. Fake beaches, fake ice, fake pretty much everything.

The article does hit BANG ON.
jackcarls0n is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 15:15
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SANDPIT PORT
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
"Emiratis are born retired. They waft through this city in their white dishdashas and headscarves and their obsessively tapered humorless faces. They’re out of place in their own country. They have imported and built a city, a fortress of extravagance, that excludes themselves. They have become duplicitous, schizophrenic. They don’t allow their own national dress in the clubs and bars that serve alcohol, the restaurants with the hungry girls sipping champagne. So they slip into Western clothes to go out"

ok them .... tell me this is a lie..
Any one whom actually lived in Dubai knows that this is true.....
Who never went to rock bottom..... hhahahahaah
or even budhabar......
CFM-56NG is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 16:30
  #11 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: not in Dubai anymore
Age: 94
Posts: 713
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think he is pretty much right, dubai and it locals changed but not for the better.
GoreTex is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 16:57
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: DXB
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Gore, do agree, but the same goes for us expats and their wifes.....need to take care as one day u will return to the real world !
R6DXB is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 17:10
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West Country
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The first thing you see when you arrive is the airport
No ****!

Wonder how much he gets paid for these astute observations?
Jet II is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 17:42
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: HKT
Age: 64
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
JetII, I am sure he gets more for his article than any moron for quoting half a sentence out of context.
Schibulsky is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 21:38
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West Country
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
OK - just for ****bulsky..




The first thing you see When you arrive Is the airport, with it's echoing marble halls. It's big enough to be the hub of a continent
Well it might be big enough for a small continent but it certainly is not big enough for EK - hence the gazillions spent on the extension.

Is that negative enough?
Jet II is offline  
Old 16th Mar 2011, 21:47
  #16 (permalink)  
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Hilton, Sheraton or Marriott
Posts: 1,817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Priceless article. Had me in stitches. Take it with a pinch of salt. If it offends you.
4HolerPoler is offline  
Old 17th Mar 2011, 06:54
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: MCO (occasionally)
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Life is never so cut and dry.

I love Dubai. For those of you who have lived in more than two places in the Middle East, where do you prefer? Cairo? Jeddah? The ever popular Ad Dammam?

Sure, Dubai grew too fast in the past ten years, but that is hardly a condemnation. And shallow rich people are hardly unique to the region.

My opinion is that the author has no story and was looking for attention.

FR
FrankR is offline  
Old 17th Mar 2011, 08:12
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Eternal Beach
Posts: 1,086
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
@ FrankR

I too enjoy life here in Dubai and could think of a hundred worse places to live off the top of my hat. These would include a majority of EK destinations.

As l live on the fringe of DXB as an expat with family in company accommodation, l can observe, to a great extent, what the author of this article was talking about, and nod my head in agreement.

I enjoyed it. Complete with stereo types and gross generalisations. But l feel with a limited amount of space for the author to write what he thinks, l am sure we can all get the gist (and are very well aware) of what he is saying.

halas
halas is offline  
Old 17th Mar 2011, 13:26
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Europe
Age: 45
Posts: 625
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Perhaps a bit of artistic exaggeration here and there, but by and large the article hits dead centre. The fat, incompetent and lazy locals (youth especially), their sense of entitlement born of nothing but inherited artificial wealth and stupidity, the morally questionable expat scene, the malls, the roads going nowhere, the uselessness of it all, the corruption and nepotism and, above all. the greed and obsession with money - it's pretty much spot on.

As for the expats being not too clever, well, if any of the comments on this site relating to any manager (and a very large part of western expats commands just such a title) is anything to go by, then it's not far off the mark. Discounting that as hearsay, which is tempting, I can only rely on my own experiences with the dozens upon dozens of expats we've shipped off sandpit way. And I'm afraid to say that a fairly large part of them were pretty far from being the sharpest knife in the drawer, and had long since either hit - or in come cases even passed (Peter Principle) - the point where their careers would take them no further. Except they could potter of to the land of Sand, and build little empires of incompetence and misguided sense of achievement. After all when the US DoD is throwing money at you like it's going out of fashion, even the most incompetent flock of baboons can manage to get decent numbers on a P&L sheet. But once that stops, the music stops and a lot of the guys will have to face something they'd rather not: Reality of returning to Europe, the US or dunnunda.

Let me just finish this off by making it absolutely clear the above rant is directed at expat managers only, not by any stretch of imagination towards the boys and girls sat up the front end of 200 million worth of spare parts flying in tight formation.
SMT Member is offline  
Old 17th Mar 2011, 14:12
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: England
Age: 78
Posts: 158
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A A Gill has got it absolutely right and who leaps to criticise his remarks about the expats being none too clever? Somebody who demonstrates his lack of greycells by calling himself Kamelchaser. QED.
Shytehawk is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.