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Old 14th Jan 2011, 15:48
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Qatar Airways-Etihad Airways

Which one is best for a new F/O applying for A320?

Salary,benefits,roster,style,command time.
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 19:22
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Same shxt with different name
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 19:24
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Or, perhaps, different name, same sh$t?
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Or maybe different half name, same thing
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 02:52
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Thumbs down

yes.. same same but diferent.... hey an advice don't go there,now a lot of new of jobs are coming.... think wise think twice..

cheers
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Same ****,different colours.
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... there are dozens and dozens of ex QR guys who've jumped ship to EY, and hundreds more who have applied.

I am not aware of a single one from EY that's gone the other way

Go figure
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 07:33
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I don't know about QA v EY, but Doha Vs Abu Dhabi? No contest, go to EY.
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Charal.:QR or EY..?
-I think for the long term EY offers slightly better condition, and eventhough Abu Dhabi might be a little bit more expensive to live (compared to Doha..), still IMHO A.D. is a better place to live.
-A-320 Roster :no big difference i think same sht on both side.
-Mentality and atmosphere: Go to EY.
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Do your self, your family, your country, your self respect, your western colleague a favor and just
stay away from Middle East
The plans of conquest of Middle Eastern Airlines will suffer a reality check soon.
Jobs are coming just wait.Don't give up your rights!!!
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 09:23
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loc22550: thanks for you reply

To all those with negative feedback:why so negative for middle east and QR-EY.is it because you don't want to work their, or don't have the right qualifications for the job, or is it because you actually have worked there and you know the situation from the inside look?

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Charalambkfkekjeo, you have been warned. If you are still brave enough to want to come here, go to Emirates. And yes, there have been pilots who have left EY to go to QR, what does that say?
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Smile Middle East

It's very interesting to read that the negative comments are always coming from the same guys....if the Middle East is that bad why not leave? can't get a job anywhere else? or the conditions are not to bad after all?
Going "home" and earning less will ALWAYS the best option instead of living a miserable life.
Terms and conditions for the airlines in the Middle East are well know and public knowledge these days, so if that's so bad, don't apply !
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Cayenne..are you talking about the EY 320 pilots who left EY for QR because QR hired them to fly the ..A-330 Straight!!??!:
Just curious...
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I think they left A320 to fly B777 in QR, or so the rumor was when they departed.
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well well well....


that's a big and important decision...it's up to you in Qr you will be treated respectfully,from all the staff,especially the indians that will do their best to help you out with your roster.The job,the night sectors and the bad destinations will be equally flow....

The upgrade interview will be based on seniority,nobody will ever ask you things like ....why is the sky blue.

The captain you will fly with will always be professionally prepared and will never ever ever happen to fly with some indians sitting on the left hand seat that never flew as captains...

and more over the atmosphere in the company is absolutely great everyone loves it trying to be proactive.

well...now wake up and imagine all this reversed by 180 degrees...that's QR.


and unfortunately I am very serious...

Why I am here...???Trying to get a job back home.to keep my dignity at least.

NOF
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Noise of freedom you made me laugh, good one!
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This looks like a stand up comedy contest...
Please...
I live in Europe, I work in an European airline... And because of all this economical crisis I'm getting a 5% cut on my salary! Appart from the 40% that every month is taken by the government in taxes... The V.A.T. now is 23%... Could you please understand that most of the countries in Europe nowadays aren't the same comparing to 5 years ago?
I guess that most of the people complaining don't know how really things are running now in Europe... I can only understand your wish to return to Europe if your pockets are already full of money... earned in the Middle East!
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 22:33
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flyzede

With all my respect, you have to come here and then give your opinion.

I flew before in Europe and I was making 2000 euros less than here. After one year in the desert I wish I had my previous job and Im actually looking forward to comeback ASAP

Rgds
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 22:59
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Jumbito

I understand your point of view, and I know I need to have that Middle East experience so I can really know what we are all talking about.
But, you have to agree with me that Europe is no longer the same... and I'm not only talking about my country (Portugal)... The Irish got a huge cut, Spain is collapsing as well, some years ago two major airlines (Swissair and Sabena) closed without further notice... Europe is different now...
I know that things in the UK are better than here but even there things have changed.
I know I'm working in my home town, we have strong unions here, etc.
But imagine your self living in a country where things change rapidly... like, "next year you'll have a 5% cut on your gross salary, V.A.T. will increase to 23%, everything is getting more and more expensive (electricity, water, gas, etc.)" and you just have to say yes and pray for the next year to keep this V.A.T. instead of 25%...

Can you feel my pain? I'm really affraid of what is going to happen in Europe in the next decade...
And I'm not going to talk about the U.S. where you wake up, turn on your TV and watch that your airline has merged with any other and hundreds of pilots are getting fired...
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