Canada says the UAE is acting like a pompous thug says Colin Kenny
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As expected
It's just getting better and better... 
Canadians stranded at UAE airport after visa confusion, UAE General News - Maktoob News
Canadians stranded at UAE airport after visa confusion, UAE General News - Maktoob News
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One thing's for certain.
The accountants at Emirates are f'kin geniusus. It's amazing how they 'cook' the books year after year.
I for one, am convinced this airline is nothing but financial smoke and mirrors.
But give them credit, their in-flight service it amazing!
Willie
The accountants at Emirates are f'kin geniusus. It's amazing how they 'cook' the books year after year.
I for one, am convinced this airline is nothing but financial smoke and mirrors.
But give them credit, their in-flight service it amazing!
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I for one, am convinced this airline is nothing but financial smoke and mirrors. 
Low cost base, full airplanes. How else do you make a profit?
Salary is on time too.
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Speaking of cooking the books...
...ran into a senior Canadian trainer a few months back who said he was considering going home and working for Westjet just for a laugh. Then he did the math and discovered he would net more in the next year and a half at EK than he would in 14 years at Westjet.
That's my kind of cookin', Jethro...
That's my kind of cookin', Jethro...
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Wow that's great! So why does anyone stay at Emirates longer than three or four years then, that would be like a 42-56 year career at WestJet!!
Your statement is such bull**** it isn't even worthy of the figures to refute it.
How many ex-WestJet pilots are there at Emirates again?
Your statement is such bull**** it isn't even worthy of the figures to refute it.
How many ex-WestJet pilots are there at Emirates again?
My salami --- must be a Gulf News item ...
What, this 'businessman' figured he could just skip borders (Saudi) and back again into Abu Dhabi without applying (before leaving Canada) for a second visa? Obviously this genius didn't bother to read the UAE instructions on the back of the visa app. form before 'planning' his business trip.
Another tempest in a dust storm driven by fools.
Mosun, 42 said he and his business partner were able to enter the U.A.E. last week with a visa acquired in Canada, but were stopped by customs when they tried to re-enter the country after a side trip to Saudi Arabia.
He said U.A.E. officials told him his visa was only valid for a single entry, even though that rule wasn't written on the document itself. the rule is on the visa application form;
He said U.A.E. officials told him his visa was only valid for a single entry, even though that rule wasn't written on the document itself. the rule is on the visa application form;
Another tempest in a dust storm driven by fools.
ran into a senior Canadian trainer a few months back who said he was considering going home and working for Westjet just for a laugh. Then he did the math and discovered he would net more in the next year and a half at EK than he would in 14 years at Westjet.
That's my kind of cookin', Jethro...
That's my kind of cookin', Jethro...
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Remarkable !
Remarkable!
The postings on this thread resembled the actions between the governments of UAE and Canada...
What a read,, I thought it was a "Jerry Springer Show"
The postings on this thread resembled the actions between the governments of UAE and Canada...
What a read,, I thought it was a "Jerry Springer Show"
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Hey guys, just wanted to make a few points and try to explain the situation from my point of view:
What people don't seem to see is that the transit passengers flying to EU, Asia are vital for the entire AC network to be successful, epecially the smaller domestic routes which are essential for serving the smaller communities in Canada
Case in point, a flight flying only 8 passengers on a Dash-8 from somewhere more remote such as North Bay ON or Bathhurst NB to YYZ or YUL respectively, would be for any regional company simply unprofitable, the landing fees in YYZ or YUL especially would eat into the majority of the revenues on that flight. But AC can do them because a good number of those passengers will get onto other AC flights, either long domestic routes, or international routes. And such the profits of those longer flights can subsidize the losses of the short flight yet maintain good connectivity for those wishing to travel along the vast expanses of Canada.
If the 30% India/ME/Africa passengers were not on those long haul flights to the EU, or for that matter Asian pax on the long hauls to Asia, then those flights would not be profitable and would not be able to subsidize the short regional flights. I.e. allow Emirates to take those passengers and as a result lose connectivity to remoter Canadian towns and village which many depend on those flights. Anyone who has been around Canada will know that its not a rich country at all and some of those communities teeter on being outright poor if it were not for government help and the increase in economic activity that comes with having an airport etc.
Seriously, for the sake of the country AC has to protect itself. This is not to mention the fact that it is a major national employer, with thousands relying on it. I know I sound like an AC apologist but I don't think people who haven't lived in Canada can understand the dire requirement for good air travel, especially when its the only form of transport that can reach people during winter.
Canada isn't the US, so if you're under the impression that its some economic power house that can have 5 or 6 major airlines and its only the government that is surpressing the countries aviation pottential you are sorely mistaken. Canada has only 35 million spread over a vast space. There's a reason a lot of airlines have failed in this country, and its because the population base to support 3 or 4 major international airlines doesn't exist. Even having said that people don't realize that Air Transat also has a lot of flights to Europe and is by no means a small company. West Jet also competes fearlously with AC for domestic passengers, and Sun Wing has a strong presence in the holiday market to the south.
Look its the Governments job to protect local industry. Stop with your free-trade open skies support. Its the governments job to say no if its going to hurt the little guy in their country. You claim is its going to help the consumer if there are more flights, but thats the consumer in Toronto and other big cities. And by how much?? do you really think that prices can come down anymore. If having more flights will bring costs down further then why is it that flights from the US to similar destinations are not that much cheaper even thought they have more than double the capacity.
Which country of 30 million people with no transit hubs to speak of are served by almost every major international carrier in the world? Is this not enough? Qatar will also have 3 flights a week into Canada soon and if Gulf Air, Saudi, or Kuwait got their act together and asked for flights I'm sure the Canadian government would allow it, they're not in the business of classifying airlines by region but by induvidual bilateral ties.
So enough with you open skies supporters, sure if it does no harm and only good them I'm all for it but at the end of the day the Canadian government has to support its population not the Sheiks of Dubai and their tribe.
What people don't seem to see is that the transit passengers flying to EU, Asia are vital for the entire AC network to be successful, epecially the smaller domestic routes which are essential for serving the smaller communities in Canada
Case in point, a flight flying only 8 passengers on a Dash-8 from somewhere more remote such as North Bay ON or Bathhurst NB to YYZ or YUL respectively, would be for any regional company simply unprofitable, the landing fees in YYZ or YUL especially would eat into the majority of the revenues on that flight. But AC can do them because a good number of those passengers will get onto other AC flights, either long domestic routes, or international routes. And such the profits of those longer flights can subsidize the losses of the short flight yet maintain good connectivity for those wishing to travel along the vast expanses of Canada.
If the 30% India/ME/Africa passengers were not on those long haul flights to the EU, or for that matter Asian pax on the long hauls to Asia, then those flights would not be profitable and would not be able to subsidize the short regional flights. I.e. allow Emirates to take those passengers and as a result lose connectivity to remoter Canadian towns and village which many depend on those flights. Anyone who has been around Canada will know that its not a rich country at all and some of those communities teeter on being outright poor if it were not for government help and the increase in economic activity that comes with having an airport etc.
Seriously, for the sake of the country AC has to protect itself. This is not to mention the fact that it is a major national employer, with thousands relying on it. I know I sound like an AC apologist but I don't think people who haven't lived in Canada can understand the dire requirement for good air travel, especially when its the only form of transport that can reach people during winter.
Canada isn't the US, so if you're under the impression that its some economic power house that can have 5 or 6 major airlines and its only the government that is surpressing the countries aviation pottential you are sorely mistaken. Canada has only 35 million spread over a vast space. There's a reason a lot of airlines have failed in this country, and its because the population base to support 3 or 4 major international airlines doesn't exist. Even having said that people don't realize that Air Transat also has a lot of flights to Europe and is by no means a small company. West Jet also competes fearlously with AC for domestic passengers, and Sun Wing has a strong presence in the holiday market to the south.
Look its the Governments job to protect local industry. Stop with your free-trade open skies support. Its the governments job to say no if its going to hurt the little guy in their country. You claim is its going to help the consumer if there are more flights, but thats the consumer in Toronto and other big cities. And by how much?? do you really think that prices can come down anymore. If having more flights will bring costs down further then why is it that flights from the US to similar destinations are not that much cheaper even thought they have more than double the capacity.
Which country of 30 million people with no transit hubs to speak of are served by almost every major international carrier in the world? Is this not enough? Qatar will also have 3 flights a week into Canada soon and if Gulf Air, Saudi, or Kuwait got their act together and asked for flights I'm sure the Canadian government would allow it, they're not in the business of classifying airlines by region but by induvidual bilateral ties.
So enough with you open skies supporters, sure if it does no harm and only good them I'm all for it but at the end of the day the Canadian government has to support its population not the Sheiks of Dubai and their tribe.
