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Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 24th Apr 2018, 12:26
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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Originally Posted by Telfer86 View Post
(dusty above the information isn't on that website as EK don't use cut-e or adapt , already know they use compass as second stage , question is what is the test that is used at first stage )



EK are saying that the first stages are psychometric testing (online I think) followed by sim/advanced compass - both supervised can sometimes be done outside of UAE

My question is what is the very first part of this process "psychometric testing" is this personality or aptitudes (maths/verbal/diagram stuff) or both of these components

Thanks for any guidance , pm if you wish . I did look , just seems like a new element has been added
Clearly can’t follow simple advice, so I am not going to waste my time typing out EXACTLY what is written on Latest Pilot Jobs, as that is EXACTLY what happens, how and when.
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Old 29th Apr 2018, 20:28
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Join Date: Apr 2018
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I have a question for those who already work for EK...how often are you guys able to visit your home country bases on both A380 and 777 routers? Once a year or a bit more?
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Old 13th May 2018, 04:34
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Join Date: May 2018
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Talking Does anyone know Japanese Emirates pilots?

Does anyone know Japanese Emirates pilots?

I am a first officer applicant.
I know there’re eight Japanese pilots at Emirates.
I want to know about Emirates from them.
If you know one of them, could you let me know?
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Old 16th May 2018, 22:38
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Rubbish

Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
Cape town boy.

Bollocks to your first statement

and yes it's fairly costly, but cheaper than UK !!
It’s extremely expensive here and getting worse by the day as various authorities think of new ‘fees’, ‘surcharges’ and any other ways they can squeeze us. Apart from that, inflation is ridiculous. Don’t listen to the ‘official’/ ‘You people are suckers’ information. This is not a tax-free country by any means. Salaries don’t rise but working hours do.

Never imagine that you can save money here unless you’re a monk. Actually, they’d probably be charged a ‘fee’ or ‘surcharge’ for breathing the dusty, smog-ridden air.
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Old 28th May 2018, 21:43
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Minimum time Is see 3 years, but I don't think expansion combined with attrition would be 3 years. If the numbers are true @ 350 leaving per year a mix of Capt and FO. Actual expansion may be very minimal. Some pilots the managed to jump 100's due to the upgrade age which has now been lowered to 30 both fleets.
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Old 31st May 2018, 18:13
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Child care

Sorry if this has already been asked. As I understand it EK only pays child costs from age 4, is that correct?

How much are nursery costs before this age? Or would a nanny be cheaper?
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Old 1st Jun 2018, 01:39
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Originally Posted by fatbus View Post
Minimum time Is see 3 years, but I don't think expansion combined with attrition would be 3 years. If the numbers are true @ 350 leaving per year a mix of Capt and FO. Actual expansion may be very minimal. Some pilots the managed to jump 100's due to the upgrade age which has now been lowered to 30 both fleets.

3 years ! It’s only in the OM.

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Old 1st Jun 2018, 02:22
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post
Sorry if this has already been asked. As I understand it EK only pays child costs from age 4, is that correct?

How much are nursery costs before this age? Or would a nanny be cheaper?
Would it not be easy just to look after your own child?
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Old 1st Jun 2018, 09:45
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My wife has the opportunity to continue her career in the UAE.
She loves being a mum but she is not a stay at home Mum.
Having worked hard to get where she is she would like to continue.
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Old 2nd Jun 2018, 09:05
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For a nursery school, from around 8am till 3pm you’ll be looking at around 12000dhs a term, what you need to keep in mind is that the schools close for the whole summer, so you may be in a bind when you’re all still required to work and no nursery school to send the little one to. A maid/nanny salary varies from family to family, so other posters may have different views on salary, roughly 2500dhs a month could be the average.....we pay ours a bit more than that, she’s a live in full time nanny and very good with the little one. Keep in mind that you need to sponsor the maids visa every year and that can cost around 6000dhs, I stand to be corrected as the wife sorts that admin out.......
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Old 2nd Jun 2018, 17:23
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ERJ that would depend a lot on the country and a) which fleet its served by, both unxrease the chances b) frequency of the schedule c) if the trip is even a layover
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Old 3rd Jun 2018, 04:16
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Originally Posted by A320boy View Post
Hey everyone ! I cleared the Emirates recruitment process and have a joining in September on the A380. I still haven't made up my mind whether to join since I wanted to know how the roster is and also if my wife and our 1 month baby will be able to adjust there when I'm out on Ultra long hauls. Have read about the 777 soo inputs on 380 will be really appreciated ! Thanks in advance, cheers !!
Were you provided with Accommodation allowance?
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Old 3rd Jun 2018, 18:32
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Wow thanks for heads up Fuzuma. Much cheaper than UK.

Is a term 3-4 months?

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Old 4th Jun 2018, 06:03
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So typically the year is divided into 3 terms, school year usually commences around 1 September until roughly mid December. 2nd term starts around 7 January until end of March. Final term starts around mid April and closes for summer around end of June.

So there are some periods when you’ll need some other options with regards to looking after the kids....there are some “holiday clubs” available that you could use, I’ve never used them, so can’t comment, but I do know that they’re rather expensive.......
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Old 5th Jun 2018, 13:59
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Any new FO’s with 3+ little children care to share their opinions on EK and DXB? Schedules? Schools? Is it nearly impossible to save anything?

PM’s also welcome.
Cheers
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Old 11th Jun 2018, 18:30
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Originally Posted by ERJ190 View Post
Besides the money (which is considerably lower than it should be right now for me), one thing that makes me want to move forward is that in the company I work for, even that the environment is friendly and its growing a lot, won't give me the career I've always dreamed of, and that is a wide body captain. But maybe EK is not the answer. Shot in the dark!
I feel the same.

I'm an A320 PIC flying for a LCC in Mexico. Thinking about applying in EK.
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Old 12th Jun 2018, 04:49
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No lo hagas Castor!
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Old 12th Jun 2018, 07:26
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Originally Posted by UB6IB9 View Post
Any new FO’s with 3+ little children care to share their opinions on EK and DXB? Schedules? Schools? Is it nearly impossible to save anything?

PM’s also welcome.
Cheers
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Above are Sample links where you can check Dubai prices, in terms of groceries.
And If you're planning to buy a car, that will probably cost around extra Aed 1,000 to 4,000 dirhams per month for 3 to 4 years installment plan(depends on how luxurious the car you are getting).

School extra curricular activites and field trips are extra.
Socialization, Dining and drinking-out are common( house bbq and drinking at home becomes boring after some time).
You and your wife will probably look for some hobby that you feel like doing for a long time. Golf, Sailing, other sports etc.

To be in Dubai is like migrating to a new country, setting up the accommodation as your very own. Setting up a garden, a gazebo, or even a Jacuzzi in your backyard. Painting the bedrooms and buying all the decors as you and your wife likes. Buying a boat, a desert buggy, a motorbike, A huge BBQ grill, A new Christmas Tree or even those Halloween customes for the kids Trick or treats.
So, you see going to dubai isn't just going there for the Job. Specially if you are moving with the Family. The move can be expensive specially during the first few years.
So going back to your question if you can save? I think you can but it all depends how you spend and how much savings you're looking at. For sure, not so much.


I left EK Jan 2018 after 12 years of service., and those were the times with no excise taxes and 5 % VAT exist.
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Old 12th Jun 2018, 08:20
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Originally Posted by UB6IB9 View Post
Any new FO’s with 3+ little children care to share their opinions on EK and DXB? Schedules? Schools? Is it nearly impossible to save anything?

PM’s also welcome.
Cheers








i joined as a DEC but I do know of FOs with 4 children and it is a real, real struggle for them. And these are FOs with 4-5 years of seniority with a higher basic salary than a new joiner. The delta between their costs and ther salary is only going to get wider and wider as EK slavishly follows its low cost mantra of 'drive down costs' while inflation, increasing existing fees and other new costs chip away at their already reduced disposable (if any) income.

if the wife looks at working to make a contribution then all of her salary goes on paying the maid unless wife is very well qualified and can get a very good job - in which case you would invariably be better off and happier staying where you are.

If I could presume to offer some words of advice, it would be as follows;

Don't get blinded by 'shiny jet' syndrome. It wears real thin, real quick.

Be aware that you will be signing a 5 year bond effective from your skills test (about 3 months after arrival) and you can feel trapped as the cost of living plus set up costs (factor in a car loan plus furniture allowance from EK which has also to be paid back pro rata if you leave inside 4 years I think) drives you into debt but you can't afford to leave because of the 5 year bond - which used to only be 3 years plus the other loans that you will take out. Ask yourself why you think EK increased the bond period and try to have the financial option of being able to leave whenever you wish. Just knowing you have that option enables you to view the job through a totally different pair of eyes. If you won't be able to do that (and not many can) then be ready to feel trapped for 3-4 years at least. It is not a nice feeling.

Do not regard EK as a career. It used to be but the brutal rostering, constant downward pressure on terms and conditions mean it is now just a stepping stone to somewhere else. If you feel that the 'somewhere else' will be back in your home country then you will be better off, long term, staying put and building your seniority.

Do not get blinded by the.headline salary on offer. Disposable income is what you need to look at and, as a new FO with 3+ children, you just won't have any.

You will be leaving your existing support network behind - family, close friends, Union etc and whilst Emirates pilots are generally an excellent bunch of people, you can still feel very alone when trying to deal with the myriad of issues that go hand in hand with expat life. Be ready for this and be honest with yourself and the family that will accompany you. It is stressful and can damage relationships.

If you wsh to pm me please feel free.











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Old 12th Jun 2018, 12:32
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Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Very much appreciated. With a large family it just doesn’t seem feasible. Maybe if DEC was an option but unfortuantly, my resume lacks WB time.

Thanks again
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