Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
Dave you tried twice. You did your best. Time to let it go. As VFE stated, you have no clue what 777 and 380 rosters are like.
Glad you got the command. Enjoy it.
Glad you got the command. Enjoy it.
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Dave - For someone who is happy in his own time zone flying 80-90 for a successful carrier - you do spend a lot of your off time lurking around here.
If the 4 out of 10 that get through the selection process are "ignorant and frustrated" what does that make the 6 that don't - like you ?
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If the 4 out of 10 that get through the selection process are "ignorant and frustrated" what does that make the 6 that don't - like you ?
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Dave - For someone who is happy in his own time zone flying 80-90 for a successful carrier - you do spend a lot of your off time lurking around here.
If the 4 out of 10 that get through the selection process are "ignorant and frustrated" what does that make the 6 that don't - like you ?
If the 4 out of 10 that get through the selection process are "ignorant and frustrated" what does that make the 6 that don't - like you ?
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Yes caz I have plenty of time to use to my benefit; sorry for your time deprived scheds. As for the people like me , we try until we succeed, unlike people like yourself that are unhappy regardless and use this place to rant away
Hope the wake ahead of you is enough to keep you awake!
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CaptDav...what are you even talking about? Wouldn't you find it strange if someone was constantly providing input on something they have no direct experience with? It's bizarre. Now if you've been through the interview process then please, add that input, but speaking of which fleet to fly based on roster etc...not really your place, right?
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I really do not understand this thread. Current EK pilots complaining about the hectic schedules, not having a life, no leave, constant fatigue, and all that. In the same post, then tell prospective joiners to stay away from EK.
How does that make any sense?!
If the other terms and conditions (pay) improve, you'd still have to deal with the constant working and very little time off. Do you really think the continued shortfall in manpower will magically force EK management to improve T&Cs?
From my point of view, a lot of effort is being put into recruiting more manpower. The success of this process will only mean a better quality of life for current EK pilots and the new joiners.
FYI, I do not currently work for EK but I am in the recruitment process. I become more discouraged each time I read this thread, but then I think about the prospects of an additional 400 pilots joining and what a difference that would make.
How does that make any sense?!
If the other terms and conditions (pay) improve, you'd still have to deal with the constant working and very little time off. Do you really think the continued shortfall in manpower will magically force EK management to improve T&Cs?
From my point of view, a lot of effort is being put into recruiting more manpower. The success of this process will only mean a better quality of life for current EK pilots and the new joiners.
FYI, I do not currently work for EK but I am in the recruitment process. I become more discouraged each time I read this thread, but then I think about the prospects of an additional 400 pilots joining and what a difference that would make.
Fellas please stop telling it as it is as you are upsetting people like loc est. How dare you. He has his eye on flying a big shiny jet and you are making it all look a bit less shiny than the brochure states. Can we please concentrate on more positive things, like...it doesn't rain very much.....you know..stuff like that.
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First of all:
If this company currently is a big bull**** it's your (pilot group) responsibility and your fault in accepting this situation.
If they cut your salary few years ago and you're still flying in the same way, it's your responsibility and fault.
To make a lot of complaints here in PPRUNE will not solve this.
If this company currently is a big bull**** it's your (pilot group) responsibility and your fault in accepting this situation.
If they cut your salary few years ago and you're still flying in the same way, it's your responsibility and fault.
To make a lot of complaints here in PPRUNE will not solve this.
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Of course JonyBGood...
And I guess that if the people of North Corea are not free , it is their fault and the poor peole suffering from Daesh , it is also their fault...
In Brasil I guess that for the poor people living in the favellas , it is also their fault... You should become the next president of your country to show them how easy it is to get rich and wealthy
And I guess that if the people of North Corea are not free , it is their fault and the poor peole suffering from Daesh , it is also their fault...
In Brasil I guess that for the poor people living in the favellas , it is also their fault... You should become the next president of your country to show them how easy it is to get rich and wealthy
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I really do not understand this thread. Current EK pilots complaining about the hectic schedules, not having a life, no leave, constant fatigue, and all that. In the same post, then tell prospective joiners to stay away from EK.
How does that make any sense?!
If the other terms and conditions (pay) improve, you'd still have to deal with the constant working and very little time off. Do you really think the continued shortfall in manpower will magically force EK management to improve T&Cs?
From my point of view, a lot of effort is being put into recruiting more manpower. The success of this process will only mean a better quality of life for current EK pilots and the new joiners.
FYI, I do not currently work for EK but I am in the recruitment process. I become more discouraged each time I read this thread, but then I think about the prospects of an additional 400 pilots joining and what a difference that would make.
How does that make any sense?!
If the other terms and conditions (pay) improve, you'd still have to deal with the constant working and very little time off. Do you really think the continued shortfall in manpower will magically force EK management to improve T&Cs?
From my point of view, a lot of effort is being put into recruiting more manpower. The success of this process will only mean a better quality of life for current EK pilots and the new joiners.
FYI, I do not currently work for EK but I am in the recruitment process. I become more discouraged each time I read this thread, but then I think about the prospects of an additional 400 pilots joining and what a difference that would make.
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Sigh,
For all you prospective new joiners, here's my view as an ex EK staff member.
The people that you fly and work with are for the most part decent hard working and professional, they also went through the wannabe phase, much like some of you on here, or they have been part of the furniture for so long that they have seen things on a continual slide downhill.
All that being said BE WARNED, there is no hyperbole regarding the working conditions or the fact that many simply can't leave at the drop of a hat.
For those fools who think they know better, you are indeed blinded and fooled by your own ignorance, but feel free to make your own mistakes, there's one born every minute.
I left 9 months ago, I put my money where my mouth is, I've never recommended EK to anyone, and in its present form I never will, the place is toxic and not worth the toll on your health and home life.
For all you prospective new joiners, here's my view as an ex EK staff member.
The people that you fly and work with are for the most part decent hard working and professional, they also went through the wannabe phase, much like some of you on here, or they have been part of the furniture for so long that they have seen things on a continual slide downhill.
All that being said BE WARNED, there is no hyperbole regarding the working conditions or the fact that many simply can't leave at the drop of a hat.
For those fools who think they know better, you are indeed blinded and fooled by your own ignorance, but feel free to make your own mistakes, there's one born every minute.
I left 9 months ago, I put my money where my mouth is, I've never recommended EK to anyone, and in its present form I never will, the place is toxic and not worth the toll on your health and home life.
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Hi Guys. I'm looking for info specifically on the PSP.
Before I ask though - I'm aware the EK guys fly hard - but then again don't expect that the rest of us don't either. Productivity squeeze is a reality all over the world. Its not a bed of roses doing 75-85 (sometimes 90-something) hrs short haul a month with 55 odd turnarounds of 30 minutes each, 10 hour days with no break, to the same 5 destinations, 5 or 6 nightstops a month, some of which are minimum rest - and I mean 9 hrs from sign off (30 min after chocks on, not when you get your room key) to sign on - on older mixed equipment, with aircraft changes - sometimes twice in one day, hanging round in lounges etc etc for a third of the pay which you're getting in your pocket in Dubai.
That's why some of us are considering changing and coming to Emirates - so before you flame us, take a step back and consider (A) where we're coming from and (B) what you've got
So having established that I'm not looking for diatribes about how bad it is at Ek... I'm looking for info on the PSP please.
Phase 1 has been described as Advanced Compass Testing and SIM - would anybody be able to expand on that? I understand there's Abstract Reasoning, but are there any mathematical modules with things like Train A leaves at 10:00 and Train B leaves at 12:00 etc? The rest of the Compass Testing - are the recall of the ATC clearances (HDG ALT SPD) and the rudder pedals and the joystick still part of it?
What is the sim profile like? Specifically the part where they look for 'leadership' - that sounds like you're going to be given something to solve, perhaps enter the hold etc?
Lstly, if one gets through the Stage 1 PSP, what does the Stage 2 entail in DXB?
Thanks, and good luck to those aspiring to join EK
Before I ask though - I'm aware the EK guys fly hard - but then again don't expect that the rest of us don't either. Productivity squeeze is a reality all over the world. Its not a bed of roses doing 75-85 (sometimes 90-something) hrs short haul a month with 55 odd turnarounds of 30 minutes each, 10 hour days with no break, to the same 5 destinations, 5 or 6 nightstops a month, some of which are minimum rest - and I mean 9 hrs from sign off (30 min after chocks on, not when you get your room key) to sign on - on older mixed equipment, with aircraft changes - sometimes twice in one day, hanging round in lounges etc etc for a third of the pay which you're getting in your pocket in Dubai.
That's why some of us are considering changing and coming to Emirates - so before you flame us, take a step back and consider (A) where we're coming from and (B) what you've got
So having established that I'm not looking for diatribes about how bad it is at Ek... I'm looking for info on the PSP please.
Phase 1 has been described as Advanced Compass Testing and SIM - would anybody be able to expand on that? I understand there's Abstract Reasoning, but are there any mathematical modules with things like Train A leaves at 10:00 and Train B leaves at 12:00 etc? The rest of the Compass Testing - are the recall of the ATC clearances (HDG ALT SPD) and the rudder pedals and the joystick still part of it?
What is the sim profile like? Specifically the part where they look for 'leadership' - that sounds like you're going to be given something to solve, perhaps enter the hold etc?
Lstly, if one gets through the Stage 1 PSP, what does the Stage 2 entail in DXB?
Thanks, and good luck to those aspiring to join EK
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Just done that - thanks.
The info they give there regarding the Heathrow SIM profile is not very detailed, its basically what EK give you in the email. I assume the profile is very similar to the DXB one..anyone done a EGLL profile with them yet?
The info they give there regarding the Heathrow SIM profile is not very detailed, its basically what EK give you in the email. I assume the profile is very similar to the DXB one..anyone done a EGLL profile with them yet?