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Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 16th Dec 2015, 19:40
  #3901 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Red Star
Posts: 54
Xiaman----the math is basic. 90 hours a month times 10 months is 900 hours. The next 42 days are vacation. That leaves a half month. We havn't even taken into consideration factoring and bunk time. Or the fact that any training is not included in that time.
Thanks, Trader. Yes, it is pretty basic, but this is what people are saying:
Flying in excess of 90 hrs/month. 30 days leave, not 42 days. 60 hrs flown in a leave month (2 week blocks) so add 120 hrs to those 90+ monthly hours. No or very little factoring on the T7. So total somewhere between 1000 and 1100 hrs.

But then Mr Yorkshire Pudding says:

Ok, you will fly 900 hours a year in the seat plus augmenting hours on top. Most are at 895+ rolling.
Again, the numbers do not add up. Am I a troll for pointing this out?

SOPS, with all due respect, you have left EK. You have no right to tell me to stop asking questions. Should I guess, you are close to 60 with more than 15 years in EK. Full payout from the provident fund, and good savings from a "long" EK carreer. You can afford to retire. Good for you!
I'm not there, I need correct information, so I ask questions.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 21:05
  #3902 (permalink)  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Escaped the sandpit 53 32′ 9.19″ N, 9 50′ 13.29″ E
Posts: 596
I am fond of saying, if you don't like it here -- LEAVE! We do not need negativity at our crown jewel of an airline.

Desperate for the upgrade ?
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 05:12
  #3903 (permalink)  
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Difficult Question
Posts: 48
... and don't forget the positioning time for the freighter flights if you on the 777. This does not go in the log book, but you are at work. On the plus side, time spent positioning does count towards productivity total. Some freight trips have upwards of 20 hours positioning.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 07:39
  #3904 (permalink)  
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: South of North
Posts: 656
Xiamen. Actually there is a lot of factoring on the 777. If you have not been flying any ULR (no factoring to date) you will be rostered for ULR's since the bunk time does not count towards the regulatory 900 hours. You will be rostered for freighter trips which involve lots of DHing and do not count towards the 900 hours.

In those case you get paid for the hours but they will take you significantly above 900 hours. When we add in training etc you will find that you get 30 days of leave, spread out over the year (the other 12 day no one seems to be getting).

So you will work 11 months and fly/be at work well over 1000 hours a year.

To accomplish that you will have to 'work' 95 hours+ a month in the months you work.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 12:46
  #3905 (permalink)  
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Join Date: Aug 1999
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I think the guys will tell you it's worked great for the company.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 12:59
  #3906 (permalink)  
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: UAE
Posts: 960
Indeed, a huge success. Just not for the pilots.
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 09:50
  #3907 (permalink)  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Tatooine
Posts: 154
KCW, if you just got here 2 years ago, you didn't help to build s#it. If anything you have helped make this place worse for the pilots that did actually help build something here.
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 23:16
  #3908 (permalink)  
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: United States
Posts: 5
So it's been seven weeks since I interviewed and so far none of my references have been contacted. Last week after I emailed HR, they told me that my application is still in the approval stages. Anyone know exactly what does that mean and should I just forget about Emirates and move on?
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 00:52
  #3909 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 652
With all due respect to all of you suffering in EK, I appreciate your concerns about the newbies and the future of the company. Yet I am coming from a place with much worse T&C, so EK will be a major leap forward for me.
You are the perfect candidate, cheap and grateful. Nothing beats an eager recruit who looks at things through rose coloured glasses.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 02:58
  #3910 (permalink)  
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: earth
Posts: 1,057
Yes and once here, you will have given the management minions carte blanche to drag the T&C's down between the existing and those where you come from, as you would still leap into the boiling kettle.

Then you will be one day surprised that jockeys from an even uglier outfit will apply like moths to the light, because the now lowered standards are like manna to them and suddenly the company accepts even their creative logbook.

You will be then complaining and warning the fourth world about the treatment in the ME. You will even repeat what can be read here, namely that the skills of newbies has eroded to a substandard level and no one cares and that you will be on your way out ..... blah blah blah

There's always a cheaper variant until something happens, some mourning and victim lamenting TSB determines that the erosion started long ago, has to stop, the company will be momentarily banned until ...... blah blah blah

Some lower cast managers will later have been fired and the carousel starts all over with the same greedy owners and with guys applying to substandard T&C's and are initially happy about it, because it's better than their actual dump

It's called cycle of life
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 08:34
  #3911 (permalink)  
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Harlow
Posts: 13
Pass rate at Emirates

Last week a friend of mine past last stage at EK, pass rate was 7/20. During my session in DXB we were 5 out of 17 who passed the test finally, so it seems they've got a rate of around 25 - 30% for the last step.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 12:41
  #3912 (permalink)  
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: United States
Posts: 5
Just curious when you interviewed and if you have been offered a class date? I interviewed end of October and haven't heard anything. Thanks.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 12:47
  #3913 (permalink)  
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Weltschmerz-By-The-Sea, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 855
From an outsider's perspective I am all too familiar (yet astonished) at airlines that devote endless time and energy to filter out as many applicants as possible yet zero effort at pilot retention. Eventually EK may come to realise that a bird in the hand is worth a lot more than 20/7 of one in the bush. Good luck.
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Old 31st Dec 2015, 23:49
  #3914 (permalink)  
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: China
Posts: 25
Has anyone else recently been successful through the process in Dubai, and been offered a start date?

Interesting in finding out how long it took for them to contact you after returning from Dubai.
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 00:54
  #3915 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 4
Requesting vectors...

Dear EK pilots
I am looking out for a charitable soul to offer some much needed advice. I am a G650 pilot. I am quite happy with my job, the owner i work for is very kind and respectful. Conditions could be better but could be worse. (Decent money but no package).Based in europe. I have always had this dream of flying" big iron " for EK and recently got an invitation for a PSP. I have a wife and 2 young sons. After reading some threads, i must say i got second thoughts to say the least. Cold feet you might say... Wllingly setting aside for a moment all i have read, may i ask you the following:
- As of today, 1st January 2016, ( happy new year by the way)what can any of you good gentlemen tell me about your general hapiness in your job ? Are all the bad things i have read true?( very silly question , i do realise that, but i beg for your kind understanding, i have no one to turn to and pray that you will find time to candidly and openly shed some light)
- can one expect to work until retirement at EK, or is it more of a "temporary gig"? ( did you guess i was hoping for the first option ? )
- Can our families travel freely in and out of the Emirates, do they get to keep their passports without restrictions ? ( again, silly question...)
- how is the ambiance in the cockpit, camaraderie and general atmosphere between pilots ?
- how many days at home can i expect in a typical month ?
- do pilots get fired ? How often and on which grounds if so ? ( Is the management Humane with pilots and their families, do they show liniency towards honest mistakes ?)
- more specific questions to follow if i can find a tender soul to spare some info...
Please only answer what your heart musters, not every question if you don't want to, i appreciate every second of your precious time.Finally, i would like to express my gratitude in advance for your kindness and Candor dear Sirs.
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 13:46
  #3916 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: north pole
Posts: 26
sale your soul to the devil to free mine! I'll take your job and give you mine if you'd like 😉
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 14:03
  #3917 (permalink)  
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Permanent JET LAGGG
Posts: 206
"I am a G650 pilot. I am quite happy with my job"

Let me stop you right there. Stay.
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 14:34
  #3918 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NAT
Age: 36
Posts: 68
Based on your questions EK is not for you. Apart from flying heavy iron, most answers to your questions are on the negative side.

But you seem to be strongly biased into making this gig work for you so best of luck and patience.

Happy new year
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 23:44
  #3919 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Europe
Posts: 4
Thank you dear Sir for your precious time and insight
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Old 4th Jan 2016, 10:31
  #3920 (permalink)  
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Middle East
Posts: 76
Hi Gents/Ladies,

Can anyone give some advice, information regarding DEC interviews at EK, I've heard a few rumours that one is expected to know the EK Ops Manual (OMA) for the interview. If this is true, how is one supposed to get hold of this document. I would imagine that this can only be untrue, as most companies keep their Ops Manual's fairly confidential.

Any help is always appreciated
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