Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
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Alpha Prot,
I wouldn't get too worried about being found out on the EK forum. When Emma Rate left, I kept it going because I thought, as pilots, we might want to talk in private about some stuff without all the 'Guvnors' and '411As' joining in. As soon as I have checked the crew contacts list to make sure you are in it it your details are deleted from my in-box. As moderator all I will do is delete offensive material and then deny the poster future access. I really have no interest at all who is saying what; I just want to let them say it and I want to keep myself insulated too! The only reason staff numbers are used is because I don't want wannabees and wind up merchants to screw up our the site and there isn't an easy way of setting global access for flightdeck.
But I guess paranoia rules! I'll see if I can come up with a cunning plan to avoid the use of staff numbers like asking questions that you need the portal to answer.
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I wouldn't get too worried about being found out on the EK forum. When Emma Rate left, I kept it going because I thought, as pilots, we might want to talk in private about some stuff without all the 'Guvnors' and '411As' joining in. As soon as I have checked the crew contacts list to make sure you are in it it your details are deleted from my in-box. As moderator all I will do is delete offensive material and then deny the poster future access. I really have no interest at all who is saying what; I just want to let them say it and I want to keep myself insulated too! The only reason staff numbers are used is because I don't want wannabees and wind up merchants to screw up our the site and there isn't an easy way of setting global access for flightdeck.
But I guess paranoia rules! I'll see if I can come up with a cunning plan to avoid the use of staff numbers like asking questions that you need the portal to answer.
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My my arent we touchy. This is a public forum and as such i'm entitled to read it.As are many non pilots. Your philanthropistic tendencies to warn your fellow aviators are commendable. The point is its a never ending repetitive whinge. I was offered an EK contract last year, didnt take it for all the reasons here. However It was all obvious to anyone in the three day trip that wasnt blinded by the quick command carrot.All smiles and no substance. Maybe some egos clouded common sense? If the cap fits!! If you are bitter about your choice fine but constantly rehashing it makes you all look like whinging gits.
I do live somewhere civilised after 17 years as an expat in the uncivilised world so i do know what i'm talking about.This time around I chose to keep my left seat, freedom of speech and a society with a little more depth to it.
As max said we work hard and only the blessed few still have the old perks. The difference is we dont keep whinging about the same problems (which exist) time after time.
If your abject dismissal of my opinions is indictative of the calibre of the people i nearly had to work with (which idoubt is the case) then thank **** i didnt join.
As for not choosing to drink with your managers even if you could, you are obviously of the "dont do work" brigade. Bit of a bad career choice then going to a captive expat company where work OWNS you, and your existance. In your mitigation the employment dynamic there makes them more your masters and in keeping with cultural preferences maybe u shouldnt drink with them. Now that WAS obvious at interview. My managers are not my mates but we are on first name terms as are all the flight crew and are approachable and usually fair.
If you continue to post on a public forum we are entitled to comment. Where you are and the restrictions you suffer are YOUR own fault.You pays yer money etc etc. It would appear you are the nieve ones and i do know what i'm talking about.
PS. let the facts speak. I'm in the UK paying tax and happy still making more than you. You are in the superb Dubai, skint, Knackered and bitter. At least the cabin crew get a gold rolex for taking it up the Batty.Says it all really. Now to reiterate have a word with yourselves .
My my arent we touchy. This is a public forum and as such i'm entitled to read it.As are many non pilots. Your philanthropistic tendencies to warn your fellow aviators are commendable. The point is its a never ending repetitive whinge. I was offered an EK contract last year, didnt take it for all the reasons here. However It was all obvious to anyone in the three day trip that wasnt blinded by the quick command carrot.All smiles and no substance. Maybe some egos clouded common sense? If the cap fits!! If you are bitter about your choice fine but constantly rehashing it makes you all look like whinging gits.
I do live somewhere civilised after 17 years as an expat in the uncivilised world so i do know what i'm talking about.This time around I chose to keep my left seat, freedom of speech and a society with a little more depth to it.
As max said we work hard and only the blessed few still have the old perks. The difference is we dont keep whinging about the same problems (which exist) time after time.
If your abject dismissal of my opinions is indictative of the calibre of the people i nearly had to work with (which idoubt is the case) then thank **** i didnt join.
As for not choosing to drink with your managers even if you could, you are obviously of the "dont do work" brigade. Bit of a bad career choice then going to a captive expat company where work OWNS you, and your existance. In your mitigation the employment dynamic there makes them more your masters and in keeping with cultural preferences maybe u shouldnt drink with them. Now that WAS obvious at interview. My managers are not my mates but we are on first name terms as are all the flight crew and are approachable and usually fair.
If you continue to post on a public forum we are entitled to comment. Where you are and the restrictions you suffer are YOUR own fault.You pays yer money etc etc. It would appear you are the nieve ones and i do know what i'm talking about.
PS. let the facts speak. I'm in the UK paying tax and happy still making more than you. You are in the superb Dubai, skint, Knackered and bitter. At least the cabin crew get a gold rolex for taking it up the Batty.Says it all really. Now to reiterate have a word with yourselves .
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Bart,
You have me a bit confused. First you come here and complain that we complain, then you write a post agreeing with all we say. I take it English is not your first language, so could you please do a quick recap and tell us exactly what you mean?
Perhaps it was those 17yrs you spent in deepest darkest Africa that has caused all this uncertainty. But be a good fellow and let us know exactly what you are trying to say. I see you work in the UK, good choice, as I here its quite easy to swap licences to a UK one...good for you. I might have to do the same thing myself...any tips?
Don
You have me a bit confused. First you come here and complain that we complain, then you write a post agreeing with all we say. I take it English is not your first language, so could you please do a quick recap and tell us exactly what you mean?
Perhaps it was those 17yrs you spent in deepest darkest Africa that has caused all this uncertainty. But be a good fellow and let us know exactly what you are trying to say. I see you work in the UK, good choice, as I here its quite easy to swap licences to a UK one...good for you. I might have to do the same thing myself...any tips?
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greetings don,
You are right english isnt my first language. swearing is. My grammar and punctuation are sh1te as well so dont start.
I do agree with the comments on this thread , its just getting a bit tiresome, was amusing. it just doesnt project a good image of the individuals, read pilots, that chose to go to the gulf. Everyone has problems but some of your colleagues have made bitchin an artform. As an exexpat, wannabes from the first world (mostly uk , some aus) usualy didnt last and werent suitable. Seems the recruitment process in that area isnt so hot. Expat life isnt easy whinging is.
Now as for the licence, its very easy to swap your icao licence if you have the necessary experience. Or you can do as i did which was 18 written exams, two flight tests and two girls on the course. Now thats alot more expensive and demoralising than a GCA rubber stamp,or three years of subsidising an EK f/o salary, but i (and we) dont keep going on about it. Since JAR we also get people walking in with dodgy histories,ratings and getting Jar licences, and yes DEc positions in my company. Dont see it aired in public tough. Half of my colleagues eat shark meat for gods sake.So why dont some of you colleagues look on the bright side. if they havent got a jar licence the time at emirates will help them bypass the requirements. There that wasnt difficult, a smile. Oh I forgot , the dec's are taking all the P1,buggers. If you are not being faecesous erm cant spell....****ty..pm me and i can point you in the right direction, re the swap thing.
The other option,as many of my friends took was go to emirates from africa, and get a validation on their validation of an african licence of dubious provenance.A much easier option that produces all the bells and whistles but a history that wouldnt stand up to a detailed check from a first world investigator should aproblem happen at say LGW. For me there was no contest. I wanted a respectable qualification after africa, not layers upon layers of validation which, if stripped back may reveal barely a congolese ppl for example. I dont make the rules though, just my own choices which refers me back to the end of my last post.
One other choice, or freedom if you will, amongst the many i now have in the uk is to read these forums to broaden my awareness of opinions from across the globe. I have more in common with you guys than you may think,which is why the whinging is becoming emabarassing to the profession.
You are right english isnt my first language. swearing is. My grammar and punctuation are sh1te as well so dont start.
I do agree with the comments on this thread , its just getting a bit tiresome, was amusing. it just doesnt project a good image of the individuals, read pilots, that chose to go to the gulf. Everyone has problems but some of your colleagues have made bitchin an artform. As an exexpat, wannabes from the first world (mostly uk , some aus) usualy didnt last and werent suitable. Seems the recruitment process in that area isnt so hot. Expat life isnt easy whinging is.
Now as for the licence, its very easy to swap your icao licence if you have the necessary experience. Or you can do as i did which was 18 written exams, two flight tests and two girls on the course. Now thats alot more expensive and demoralising than a GCA rubber stamp,or three years of subsidising an EK f/o salary, but i (and we) dont keep going on about it. Since JAR we also get people walking in with dodgy histories,ratings and getting Jar licences, and yes DEc positions in my company. Dont see it aired in public tough. Half of my colleagues eat shark meat for gods sake.So why dont some of you colleagues look on the bright side. if they havent got a jar licence the time at emirates will help them bypass the requirements. There that wasnt difficult, a smile. Oh I forgot , the dec's are taking all the P1,buggers. If you are not being faecesous erm cant spell....****ty..pm me and i can point you in the right direction, re the swap thing.
The other option,as many of my friends took was go to emirates from africa, and get a validation on their validation of an african licence of dubious provenance.A much easier option that produces all the bells and whistles but a history that wouldnt stand up to a detailed check from a first world investigator should aproblem happen at say LGW. For me there was no contest. I wanted a respectable qualification after africa, not layers upon layers of validation which, if stripped back may reveal barely a congolese ppl for example. I dont make the rules though, just my own choices which refers me back to the end of my last post.
One other choice, or freedom if you will, amongst the many i now have in the uk is to read these forums to broaden my awareness of opinions from across the globe. I have more in common with you guys than you may think,which is why the whinging is becoming emabarassing to the profession.
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Interesting thread - creating all sorts of whinges from members but let's keep it going in the interest of getting to the bottom of this barrel.
Bring it on!
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Bring it on!
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Something wrong if you cannot survive on a co pilots salary. Would imagine it's at least 2500 sterling per month. If it's that bad then get rid of the maid, buy a second hand jeep or have a real word with your wives and their spending habits. Reality check required, start living within your means and face up to the fact you do not make as much money as people may think. Get a grip guys.
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Patroniing ....maybe ...and i aplolgise for that.
True...absolutely...I have seen the film and ate the pie.
As for being on this thread so much well, its a voluntary office day to help out. Payback....a good open relationship with my bosses and the day off i need to go on leave on the flight i want. Give and take really. Rain and tax i can handle.
True...absolutely...I have seen the film and ate the pie.
As for being on this thread so much well, its a voluntary office day to help out. Payback....a good open relationship with my bosses and the day off i need to go on leave on the flight i want. Give and take really. Rain and tax i can handle.
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Schnowzer, thanks for the comments, I have little doubt or paranoia that your system is not the way management would find out who was posting. I use my identity on both the EK forum and the public Middle East one, and have very few concerns about them finding out. Basically I still believe public forums serve many purposes a private one can't.
Bart, this post in particular has had nearly 3500 viewings, obviously some people are interested in reading it, you may find it repetitive and annoying, others obviously don't.
So to reiterate, if you don't want to read it p*** off.
Bart, this post in particular has had nearly 3500 viewings, obviously some people are interested in reading it, you may find it repetitive and annoying, others obviously don't.
So to reiterate, if you don't want to read it p*** off.
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well as you seem to insist on lowering the tone. youre the sad **** that are p1ssed off so why dont you lot p1ss off out of dubai and give it a rest. End of really.
Proof is in the pudding. this is a public forum , what part of that dont you understand. adopting some of your managers tolerances are you? You whinge, we comment ,otherwise ****** to a private forum.
Cool it Bart - considering the time & your demeanor, a certain amount of "brave juice" has fired your rhetoric and led to your use of gutter language. Take a yellow card. Hopefully when you wake up in the morning you'll find it within yourself to continue this debate in a slightly more civil manner. 4HP
Proof is in the pudding. this is a public forum , what part of that dont you understand. adopting some of your managers tolerances are you? You whinge, we comment ,otherwise ****** to a private forum.
Cool it Bart - considering the time & your demeanor, a certain amount of "brave juice" has fired your rhetoric and led to your use of gutter language. Take a yellow card. Hopefully when you wake up in the morning you'll find it within yourself to continue this debate in a slightly more civil manner. 4HP
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Bart,you and your type would do very well here in the office.
For the rest of us,a once excellent job has deteroriated in front of very eyes in a quite extraordinary display of misreading the situation.
QB
For the rest of us,a once excellent job has deteroriated in front of very eyes in a quite extraordinary display of misreading the situation.
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It's probably no coincidence that Barts found a voice as Albatosser and his other pseudonyms have lost theirs...
Annoying though he is, he is also sadly persistant. It doesn't take long to recognise the same drivel after a few posts so its probably better not to bite if we can and stick to the threads.
Annoying though he is, he is also sadly persistant. It doesn't take long to recognise the same drivel after a few posts so its probably better not to bite if we can and stick to the threads.
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You are all right, i shall not rub salt in the wounds of your errors or shallow company. Well maybe just the one more time.
Oh and Shake do you mean Thread ,singular, same old same old.
Have fun girls.
I hope this forum helps as surrogate counselling SOME of you need. I'm off to hyde park corner to slag off my boss and government , and then the pub, not the dole, or jail. Ah freedom its been hard earned over the years.TTFN
Oh and Shake do you mean Thread ,singular, same old same old.
Have fun girls.
I hope this forum helps as surrogate counselling SOME of you need. I'm off to hyde park corner to slag off my boss and government , and then the pub, not the dole, or jail. Ah freedom its been hard earned over the years.TTFN
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Emirates F/O Positoins!!!!!
Hi! guys,
I'm flying the 737 NG's for Jet Airways India and have got almost 1000 hrs on type with 2500 total time. Should I go for the F/O position at Emirates? People have joined Jet Airways on the 340's leaving Emirates so what you guys have to say about it. Please I don't want any openion war to start here but just professional advice. Thanks in advance...
I'm flying the 737 NG's for Jet Airways India and have got almost 1000 hrs on type with 2500 total time. Should I go for the F/O position at Emirates? People have joined Jet Airways on the 340's leaving Emirates so what you guys have to say about it. Please I don't want any openion war to start here but just professional advice. Thanks in advance...
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Firstly check their requirements, I think you will find youre a tad short at present.
Secondly ask as many people as you can who work here at EK, get + and - and then make a decision.
Its not for everyone and certainly isnt the career it used to be.
Just my opinion.
Cheers
Secondly ask as many people as you can who work here at EK, get + and - and then make a decision.
Its not for everyone and certainly isnt the career it used to be.
Just my opinion.
Cheers
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i do believe you are forgetting that jet airways india and emirates do have an agreement that no pilots will be called for an interview without a resignation as well as a letter of acceptance of their resignation from jet.Just thought you should know the type of unproffessionals that you work for take it from me ive been there done that and now doin much better.
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Looking for more Emirates info...
I have read what some people have posted on the forums and still do not have a great picture of life at Emirates.
I would appreciate any and all info relating to interview (I have read what is available on PPRUNE) particularly what technical questions are asked.
What I am most interested in is what is the life of an Emirates pilot like. Work schedule, junior pilot trip pairings, layover details, cockpit environment, relationship with management. Life in Dubai. Pictures of housing, opinions on schools, entertainment, time off. Vacations. Pension. Career growth. Any and everything! I would love to hear from Brits, Aussies, Americans and anyone else who could put a perspective on life vs. western airline jobs.
Thanks,
HH60
I would appreciate any and all info relating to interview (I have read what is available on PPRUNE) particularly what technical questions are asked.
What I am most interested in is what is the life of an Emirates pilot like. Work schedule, junior pilot trip pairings, layover details, cockpit environment, relationship with management. Life in Dubai. Pictures of housing, opinions on schools, entertainment, time off. Vacations. Pension. Career growth. Any and everything! I would love to hear from Brits, Aussies, Americans and anyone else who could put a perspective on life vs. western airline jobs.
Thanks,
HH60
