Emergency landing: Kuwait Airways pilot failed to follow instructions
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Emergency landing: Kuwait Airways pilot failed to follow instructions
Kuwait: A report on the emergency landing and evacuation of a Kuwait Airways Corporation (KAC) plane a few weeks ago found the pilot responsible for the incident, reported Al-Rai. The report found that the pilot reacted improperly when a smoke detector in the cabin was triggered. Related: Kuwait Airways plane to Dhaka returns after appearance of smoke
The KAC aircraft, on its way to Dhaka, Bangaladesh earlier this month made an emergency landing a few minutes after taking off when a smoke detector in the cabin was triggered. The report added that during the evacuation of the flight’s 260 passengers, several injuries occurred as a result of the chaotic manner with which the procedure was handled.
The Kuwait Airways Corporation indicated that the alarm was false and that Captain Nayef Al-Mutalaqim failed to triple check the alarm as he was trained and decided to unnecessarily land the plane. The report indicated that the proper response to the situation would have been to land the plane normally and to request that ambulances be deployed to the scene. The report also quotes witnesses indicating that the captain nervously demanded that passengers evacuate the plane immediately, which further caused panic.
The report explains that the plane’s engine would have burst into flames within forty minutes had an electric short circuit taken place, as the pilot claimed. The KAC, meanwhile, filed a case of noncooperation with the Directorate General for Civil Aviation against Al-Mutalaqim, accusing him of disobeying orders.
The same plane had a second emergency landing just a week later at the Kuwait International Airport after detecting high air pressure inside the cockpit, reported Al-Watan. No injuries were reported in the incident.
A news report published recently indicated that the same plane suffered a third incident on its way back from Dhaka but that the situation was handled successfully by its captain, Jassem Al-Anjari. The report indicated that the pilot contacted the airport’s control tower when a malfunction occurred in the steering wheel’s hydraulic system while it was landing but that the pilot was able to steer the plane manually. An examination of the plane revealed that the hydraulic system was still functioning but that the problem occurred because the steering wheel temporarily jammed.
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The KAC aircraft, on its way to Dhaka, Bangaladesh earlier this month made an emergency landing a few minutes after taking off when a smoke detector in the cabin was triggered. The report added that during the evacuation of the flight’s 260 passengers, several injuries occurred as a result of the chaotic manner with which the procedure was handled.
The Kuwait Airways Corporation indicated that the alarm was false and that Captain Nayef Al-Mutalaqim failed to triple check the alarm as he was trained and decided to unnecessarily land the plane. The report indicated that the proper response to the situation would have been to land the plane normally and to request that ambulances be deployed to the scene. The report also quotes witnesses indicating that the captain nervously demanded that passengers evacuate the plane immediately, which further caused panic.
The report explains that the plane’s engine would have burst into flames within forty minutes had an electric short circuit taken place, as the pilot claimed. The KAC, meanwhile, filed a case of noncooperation with the Directorate General for Civil Aviation against Al-Mutalaqim, accusing him of disobeying orders.
The same plane had a second emergency landing just a week later at the Kuwait International Airport after detecting high air pressure inside the cockpit, reported Al-Watan. No injuries were reported in the incident.
A news report published recently indicated that the same plane suffered a third incident on its way back from Dhaka but that the situation was handled successfully by its captain, Jassem Al-Anjari. The report indicated that the pilot contacted the airport’s control tower when a malfunction occurred in the steering wheel’s hydraulic system while it was landing but that the pilot was able to steer the plane manually. An examination of the plane revealed that the hydraulic system was still functioning but that the problem occurred because the steering wheel temporarily jammed.
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I trust these somewhat bizarre phrases are due to bad translation;
1. to request that ambulances be deployed to the scene.
2. report explains that the plane’s engine would have burst into flames within
forty minutes had an electric short circuit taken place,
3.after detecting high air pressure inside the cockpit,
otherwise I have the feeling that KAC operate on another planet.
1. to request that ambulances be deployed to the scene.
2. report explains that the plane’s engine would have burst into flames within
forty minutes had an electric short circuit taken place,
3.after detecting high air pressure inside the cockpit,
otherwise I have the feeling that KAC operate on another planet.
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Wow. Three problems that made the news in how many days?
In a related story, xyz pilot decides to not land plane because smoke detectors are deemed faulty by the airline. (I can see that happening in the near future, can anyone else?)
In a related story, xyz pilot decides to not land plane because smoke detectors are deemed faulty by the airline. (I can see that happening in the near future, can anyone else?)
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According to AVHerald, as well as the FO breaking his leg,
The Kuwaiti CAA's definition of "minor" injuries starting to be stretched somewhat.....
Accident: Kuwait A306 near Kuwait on Nov 10th 2010, smoke in cabin
The Arabic newspaper Al Rai reported, that one passenger died in Farwaniya Hospital two weeks after the evacuation.
Accident: Kuwait A306 near Kuwait on Nov 10th 2010, smoke in cabin
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Something may have been lost in translation. "Instructions" may have meant "regulations" as in "company policies and procedures" in this case.
Read that way, "failed to follow proper company rules/procedures" might be what the company are upset at him for.
Something may have been lost in translation. "Instructions" may have meant "regulations" as in "company policies and procedures" in this case.
Read that way, "failed to follow proper company rules/procedures" might be what the company are upset at him for.
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Having smoke in the cabin and having a smoke alarm activated are two completely different events.
This is why communication is so important and as pilots, we rely on a good standard of English spoken by the cabin crew. Judging by some of the latest recruits, god help us.
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This is why communication is so important and as pilots, we rely on a good standard of English spoken by the cabin crew. Judging by some of the latest recruits, god help us.
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I thought the smoke detectors were only in the toilets and galleys....Air Canada had one go off and as a result I thought the advice was to land as soon as possible (if not sooner) and evacuate via the slides...this assumes you do not land pressurized having followed a drill card that was incorrect....so what was the result and conclusion of the inquiry into the freighter fire and hull loss out of DXB recently?
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Maybe I wasn't that clear in my post.
What i'm saying is that it's important to ascertain if there actually is smoke present, or whether it's just an alarm that's been activated. There many cases every year of false warnings so to initiate a full diversion and evacuation on a warning alone is not sensible.
If there was smoke, finding the source is important. While that is being done, a precautionary descent and diversion can be started. If it's serious, you're already on your way to a landing. If it is resolved, time to re assess your position and options.
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What i'm saying is that it's important to ascertain if there actually is smoke present, or whether it's just an alarm that's been activated. There many cases every year of false warnings so to initiate a full diversion and evacuation on a warning alone is not sensible.
If there was smoke, finding the source is important. While that is being done, a precautionary descent and diversion can be started. If it's serious, you're already on your way to a landing. If it is resolved, time to re assess your position and options.
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What i'm saying is that it's important to ascertain if there actually is smoke present, or whether it's just an alarm that's been activated. There many cases every year of false warnings so to initiate a full diversion and evacuation on a warning alone is not sensible.
If there was smoke, finding the source is important. While that is being done, a precautionary descent and diversion can be started. If it's serious, you're already on your way to a landing. If it is resolved, time to re assess your position and options.
If there was smoke, finding the source is important. While that is being done, a precautionary descent and diversion can be started. If it's serious, you're already on your way to a landing. If it is resolved, time to re assess your position and options.
Add to that, we don't know how much "experience" this pilot actually had, he might have had less than a few thousand hours, and thus very little experience handling emergencies.
For all we know, this was his first flight in the left seat, and had a 200 hour co-pilot.
It is KAC airlines.
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Why did the Captain not send the flight engineer to investigate the smoke detector warning?
Answer...Because somebody not there decided they were not necessary years ago.
Why did this Captain not get out of his seat and desert his post and stroll into
cabin (with his hat and tie and jacket on) and investigate the warning or fight the fire having decided to leave everything on the flight deck to his F/o to decide what to do...single pilot IFR way to go...could his F/o cope with it all in an integrated crew cockpit? Were they both trained for this particular situation?
Answer..This Captain faced with all the various possibilities and history of this aircraft decided to get it on the ground as soon as possible and the passengers off via the slides rather than wait hours for steps and possibly see them all get killed by smoke...He probably also could not find his hat and tie....that crime is what he will be disciplined for!
God and Ala give me strength...I hope he joins a Royal Flight and lives happily ever after.
Answer...Because somebody not there decided they were not necessary years ago.
Why did this Captain not get out of his seat and desert his post and stroll into
cabin (with his hat and tie and jacket on) and investigate the warning or fight the fire having decided to leave everything on the flight deck to his F/o to decide what to do...single pilot IFR way to go...could his F/o cope with it all in an integrated crew cockpit? Were they both trained for this particular situation?
Answer..This Captain faced with all the various possibilities and history of this aircraft decided to get it on the ground as soon as possible and the passengers off via the slides rather than wait hours for steps and possibly see them all get killed by smoke...He probably also could not find his hat and tie....that crime is what he will be disciplined for!
God and Ala give me strength...I hope he joins a Royal Flight and lives happily ever after.
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Yea, I guess I have not been clear, trying to be sarcastic and funny instead.
I am having a hard time thinking that the captain did anything wrong.
He got a fire warning, the plane had had several maintenance issues in the recent past, he decides to land the plane, does so, then evacuates the plane, rather than have everyone sit on a, very likely, burning plane, and he gets in trouble for this?
As I said earlier, can you imagine the repercussions if every time a pilot "saves" lives by landing and evacuating the plane he get's in trouble?
I can just imagine a pilot who hasn't got quite the nerve to declare an emergency, because his pay might be docked, ends up in a disaster. And then what do the people "in the office" do?
I am having a hard time thinking that the captain did anything wrong.
He got a fire warning, the plane had had several maintenance issues in the recent past, he decides to land the plane, does so, then evacuates the plane, rather than have everyone sit on a, very likely, burning plane, and he gets in trouble for this?
As I said earlier, can you imagine the repercussions if every time a pilot "saves" lives by landing and evacuating the plane he get's in trouble?
I can just imagine a pilot who hasn't got quite the nerve to declare an emergency, because his pay might be docked, ends up in a disaster. And then what do the people "in the office" do?
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You people need to RTFR, seriously.
It was not a "fire warning", it was a smoke alarm triggered by humidity. They don't say wether it was in the cargo or the cabin toilets. I would assume from the reaction of the crew that it came from the cargo hold.
Any half-witted pilot would have the presence of mind to rule out a faulty smoke alarm in a toilet, so it sounds like it might have been something more difficult to confirm like a cargo hold smoke warning. In which case, the diversion is justified but the evacuation might have been a bit of an overreaction.
And a passenger later dying in the hospital constitutes more than minor injuries in my opinion.
It was not a "fire warning", it was a smoke alarm triggered by humidity. They don't say wether it was in the cargo or the cabin toilets. I would assume from the reaction of the crew that it came from the cargo hold.
Any half-witted pilot would have the presence of mind to rule out a faulty smoke alarm in a toilet, so it sounds like it might have been something more difficult to confirm like a cargo hold smoke warning. In which case, the diversion is justified but the evacuation might have been a bit of an overreaction.
And a passenger later dying in the hospital constitutes more than minor injuries in my opinion.
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Still missing the point!
Before you do anything, you need to ask the cabin crew one vital and simple question,
"Can you actually see smoke in the cabin?"
If there is, you know it's a land ASAP.
As an aside, how many times are cargo 'fire' warnings triggered by spraying the holds. Don't recall all of these weekly events resulting in an evacuation. Cargo fire warning in flight, different beast altogether. Get the thing heading down and continually re asses. Once on ground, unless there was actual evidence of smoke or heat however, a full evacuation would then be unlikely.
Look, we're trying to analyise the decision making skills of a Captain from information provided by a newspaper report. It was written by a non native English speaker and by someone obviously not familiair with aviation. I see the crap that comes out of UK papers relating to "DEATH DIVE FROM 30,000FT!" so I can only imagine the inaccuracies that are present in this report.
Harry
Before you do anything, you need to ask the cabin crew one vital and simple question,
"Can you actually see smoke in the cabin?"
If there is, you know it's a land ASAP.
As an aside, how many times are cargo 'fire' warnings triggered by spraying the holds. Don't recall all of these weekly events resulting in an evacuation. Cargo fire warning in flight, different beast altogether. Get the thing heading down and continually re asses. Once on ground, unless there was actual evidence of smoke or heat however, a full evacuation would then be unlikely.
Look, we're trying to analyise the decision making skills of a Captain from information provided by a newspaper report. It was written by a non native English speaker and by someone obviously not familiair with aviation. I see the crap that comes out of UK papers relating to "DEATH DIVE FROM 30,000FT!" so I can only imagine the inaccuracies that are present in this report.
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I'm sure the accident report will make for interesting reading but I can't make any sense of their civil aviation site. Not sure if that side of things are not available in English or if I'm just blind.
I know it won't be there yet but I don't fancy my chances for finding it once they've done their investigation.
I know it won't be there yet but I don't fancy my chances for finding it once they've done their investigation.
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sittingidly . . .
I get a fire warning shortly after takeoff and i'm headed back for a landing too!
