Canadians to pay up to $998 for a visa!
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That is definitely the best laugh I've had all year when you mentioned Canada and culture in the same sentence. It's the 51st state of the US and sadly, too many ignorant people.
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So by your predictions, Jet II, the citizens of the UK, the Schengen Area, Japan, Australia and USA will be next in 2011 to be removed from the visa-on-arrival list and have to pay up to $1000 USD for a visit visa to the UAE because UAE citizens require visas to visit those countries?
I too am the national of a small country which is required to hold a visitor visa to visit countries such as Canada, the USA . . . even the UAE but that does not mean we do not provide a tourist card, on arrival, for a $5 fee because we realize that a) these countries are not going to change their policy reciprocal to ours because they have their concerns, and b) we gain so much by having visitors come to our country through their spending that putting high barriers only makes us poorer in the end.
I too am the national of a small country which is required to hold a visitor visa to visit countries such as Canada, the USA . . . even the UAE but that does not mean we do not provide a tourist card, on arrival, for a $5 fee because we realize that a) these countries are not going to change their policy reciprocal to ours because they have their concerns, and b) we gain so much by having visitors come to our country through their spending that putting high barriers only makes us poorer in the end.
In the case of Canada they obviously thought not.
Of course the governments of foreign states are unhappy about this. Somebody will always be unhappy about something.
And he is right.
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Prove that 'Ed' is right!!!!!
That traffic goes in and out regardless of whether EK is there or not. It might make it easier for some but that is about it. The trade will continue with or without EK.
Local politicians love this stuff because it makes them look important, adds some votes and gives them some bragging rights about what they did while in office while trying to keep that office.
The fact that others (outside his constituancy) might not benefit is irrelevant to him. The Federal gov't has decided, that as a whole, it does not benefit Canada. I might add that the Conservatives are about as pro business as you can get.
That traffic goes in and out regardless of whether EK is there or not. It might make it easier for some but that is about it. The trade will continue with or without EK.
Local politicians love this stuff because it makes them look important, adds some votes and gives them some bragging rights about what they did while in office while trying to keep that office.
The fact that others (outside his constituancy) might not benefit is irrelevant to him. The Federal gov't has decided, that as a whole, it does not benefit Canada. I might add that the Conservatives are about as pro business as you can get.
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Canada is a very cold miserable country, in the winter its so cold its residents have to live in igloo's. There is NO culture, they are VERY racist, and the native indians still scalp people. If its not snowing, its raining all the time.
Being so far north, in the winter it's dark 23 hours a day.
So, please everyone steer clear. I hear Australia and New Zealand are lovely places
Being so far north, in the winter it's dark 23 hours a day.
So, please everyone steer clear. I hear Australia and New Zealand are lovely places
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As for trade continuing without good air travel links, well it might for a while but if a City does not have very good commuunication links nowdays they will fail to attract many Companies to move to that location - they will simply move to a location with better infrastructure.
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What country indulges in overestimating its importance because it has tripped over some fossil fuels, is geostrategically well positioned for aviation (overflight or hubbing), attracts a lot of people from the subcontinent and has very little cultural achievements to show?
Yes, both answers are correct: The UAE or Canada
Maybe that's an explanation for the mini cold war.
Yes, both answers are correct: The UAE or Canada
Maybe that's an explanation for the mini cold war.
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Hmm, it appears that if you book through EK a visit visa for Canadian citizens is $75.
That compares with a UAE citizen visiting Canada who has to pay for a visit visa........$75
That compares with a UAE citizen visiting Canada who has to pay for a visit visa........$75
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What country indulges in overestimating its importance because it has tripped over some fossil fuels, is geostrategically well positioned for aviation (overflight or hubbing), attracts a lot of people from the subcontinent and has very little cultural achievements to show?
Yes, both answers are correct: The UAE or Canada
Maybe that's an explanation for the mini cold war.
Yes, both answers are correct: The UAE or Canada
Maybe that's an explanation for the mini cold war.
Now now pool, care to share with us which bastion of cultural achievement you hail from? From your comment it obviously isn't one with much of an education system...
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There isn't much said over here in Canada about Air Canada lobbying the CDN gov't for help in staving off competition from EK or any other airline. If the CDN gov't can't make decisions about who can and who can't have access to our airports without considering the impact both positive and negative before making its decision, gawd help us.
I believe initially they (AC) would/should have an input when it comes to bilateral agreements with foreign airlines intentions relative to passenger/commercial traffic into and out of Canada. As would all the other CDN airlines. So, I wouldn't think or suggest there is a major 'lobbying effort' on the part of AC or any other carrier over here to block or ban EK. There isn't. I also happen to think it's quite reasonable that AC will and should keep their eye on the ball.
There wasn't much fuss when QR asked for and was granted landing rights. When you look at the Gulf Region hubs, you have to ask why one carrier from that region should have more access to Canada than others from that region?
Canadians generally haven't a clue about EKs vision of dominating the world's airline industry and most CDNs couldn't give a stuff. EK's request for additional services and new destinations within Canada was looked at and the request was turned down. Decision made. Turn the page!
The immature reaction of the UAE gov't is understandable. It's a young country that doesn't run like any democratic model out there, including Canada. By escalating this issue they are putting themselves in yet another 'face saving' position where they will have to hope Canada doesn't cancel EK and EY landing rights and/or overflights. If that happens, the UAE, EK and EY are, 'ow you say? fuct.
As a mature and responsible nation it is highly unlikely that Canada will ever take such measures against the UAE or its air traffic use of Canadian airspace. That's how a mature nation behaves.
Lot's of VFR traffic between Canada and the sub-continent. India's population alone is 1,166,079,217.
The population of Canada is 33,487,208.Making Canada an insignificant market. EK is interested in providing uplift to the sub-continent from Canada and it is completely clear why they would be.
Canada is a multicultural country with people from all over the world who have now made Canada their home. Ethnic Groups (wholly or partly): North American Origin 40%, British Origin 33%, French Origin 16%, Other European 29%, Aboriginal peoples 4%, South, East & South-East Asian 9%, Other (mostly Caribbean, Arab, African, Latin/Central/South American and West Asian) 6%. The total comes to more than 100% because many Canadians (approximately 38%) have a mixed background.
Increased visa fees for Canadians travelling to the UAE is a non-starter. The reasons behind the re-introduction of visa fees for CDNs is childish at the least and immature at best and nothing more. UAE decision made. Turn the page.
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I believe initially they (AC) would/should have an input when it comes to bilateral agreements with foreign airlines intentions relative to passenger/commercial traffic into and out of Canada. As would all the other CDN airlines. So, I wouldn't think or suggest there is a major 'lobbying effort' on the part of AC or any other carrier over here to block or ban EK. There isn't. I also happen to think it's quite reasonable that AC will and should keep their eye on the ball.
There wasn't much fuss when QR asked for and was granted landing rights. When you look at the Gulf Region hubs, you have to ask why one carrier from that region should have more access to Canada than others from that region?
Canadians generally haven't a clue about EKs vision of dominating the world's airline industry and most CDNs couldn't give a stuff. EK's request for additional services and new destinations within Canada was looked at and the request was turned down. Decision made. Turn the page!
The immature reaction of the UAE gov't is understandable. It's a young country that doesn't run like any democratic model out there, including Canada. By escalating this issue they are putting themselves in yet another 'face saving' position where they will have to hope Canada doesn't cancel EK and EY landing rights and/or overflights. If that happens, the UAE, EK and EY are, 'ow you say? fuct.
As a mature and responsible nation it is highly unlikely that Canada will ever take such measures against the UAE or its air traffic use of Canadian airspace. That's how a mature nation behaves.
Lot's of VFR traffic between Canada and the sub-continent. India's population alone is 1,166,079,217.
The population of Canada is 33,487,208.Making Canada an insignificant market. EK is interested in providing uplift to the sub-continent from Canada and it is completely clear why they would be.
Canada is a multicultural country with people from all over the world who have now made Canada their home. Ethnic Groups (wholly or partly): North American Origin 40%, British Origin 33%, French Origin 16%, Other European 29%, Aboriginal peoples 4%, South, East & South-East Asian 9%, Other (mostly Caribbean, Arab, African, Latin/Central/South American and West Asian) 6%. The total comes to more than 100% because many Canadians (approximately 38%) have a mixed background.
Increased visa fees for Canadians travelling to the UAE is a non-starter. The reasons behind the re-introduction of visa fees for CDNs is childish at the least and immature at best and nothing more. UAE decision made. Turn the page.
Willie Everlearn
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Jet II,
I guess we can agree on that. That is a right that every sovereign nation enjoys.
Your previous comment confused me because of your reference on "States"; I believe Canada uses the term "Provinces" to refer to their regional governments in the same way that the UAE refers to its regional segments as "Emirates"
Any any case, Trader has provided the answer I would have given to you. A difference with the elected political leaders in a country like Canada, and its provinces, and the dynastic ruling families in a country like the UAE is that in Canada, the politicians don't "tow the line" to maintain an outside image of political unity and take any and all opportunity to "one-up" themselves over their political opponents. I imagine that this is one of the perceived weaknesses of Canada on which the UAE's strategy is based.
Happy New Year
If countries do not want to offer citizens of the UAE the same agreements for visa travel as their own citizens enjoy then surely it is up to the UAE to decide whether the benefits outweigh the costs by continuing with the arrangement.
Your previous comment confused me because of your reference on "States"; I believe Canada uses the term "Provinces" to refer to their regional governments in the same way that the UAE refers to its regional segments as "Emirates"
Any any case, Trader has provided the answer I would have given to you. A difference with the elected political leaders in a country like Canada, and its provinces, and the dynastic ruling families in a country like the UAE is that in Canada, the politicians don't "tow the line" to maintain an outside image of political unity and take any and all opportunity to "one-up" themselves over their political opponents. I imagine that this is one of the perceived weaknesses of Canada on which the UAE's strategy is based.
Happy New Year
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Tolgalk! Such talk!
Togalk, we have a number of ways of dealing with your type...
YouTube - Molson Canadian
Actually, in a number of areas, it is dark 24 hours a day- for up to three months- and it's sometimes it's -56C on the ground! Mind you, in the summer, it's 24 hour daylight and reasonable temps.
I have slept in an igloo. It was very comfortable. Unlike you I have tasted beaver.
EGGW: Moderator, can you please watch Togalk? I find his comments offensive.
Thanks,
Troff
YouTube - Molson Canadian
Canada is a very cold miserable country, in the winter its so cold its residents have to live in igloo's. There is NO culture, they are VERY racist, and the native indians still scalp people. If its not snowing, its raining all the time.
Being so far north, in the winter it's dark 23 hours a day.
So, please everyone steer clear. I hear Australia and New Zealand are lovely places
Being so far north, in the winter it's dark 23 hours a day.
So, please everyone steer clear. I hear Australia and New Zealand are lovely places
I have slept in an igloo. It was very comfortable. Unlike you I have tasted beaver.
EGGW: Moderator, can you please watch Togalk? I find his comments offensive.
Thanks,
Troff
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ok, obviously humor is lost on most of you. I was born and raised in Canada as were the last 4 generations of my family.
I'm sure the moderators had no problem understanding my initial post, thats why its still there.
GET A SENSE OF HUMOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
troff, I can pretty much guarantee I have tasted a lot more beaver then you ever have.
I'm sure the moderators had no problem understanding my initial post, thats why its still there.
GET A SENSE OF HUMOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
troff, I can pretty much guarantee I have tasted a lot more beaver then you ever have.
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Guys,
you have been married too long, most of the beavers are extinct or partially scalped since the nineties, heard there are some left in east germany (ask EGT) and the UK
you have been married too long, most of the beavers are extinct or partially scalped since the nineties, heard there are some left in east germany (ask EGT) and the UK
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This is the Canada I know of...
YouTube - Banff Lake Louise Tourism
YouTube - Ancient Land, 2 min TV Ad, Newfoundland and Labrador Tourism
YouTube - Ancient Land, 2 min TV Ad, Newfoundland and Labrador Tourism
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