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Don't get yourself into a tizzy over where they landed. You should be more worried about your useless football team

Payscale

CI999 give it at rest buddy... stop second guessing his decisions.

smartpilot

Looks like the OCC for the 1st time got involved and took optimum decision, KUL was chosen for crew replacement, all crews avail in BKK are 777 only.


At the end the concern should be about the loss not the diversion.
We lost a young colleague, and our prayers and good reputation are the only things left behind him.

RIP!

shemaid

Condolence to the family of Capt Ajay Kumar.

I have to agree with C1999. KUL is way too far the MNL-DOH route.
I guess it was OCC's decision.
As stated by SMARTPILOT, KUL was chosen for crew replacement. No second guessing there.
This is the second time were OCC got involved in a decision relating to death on board.
2 years ago a QR B777 had pax death on board (declared dead by doctor on board) enroute to New York. It happened 3 hours after airborne. OCC's decision was to continiue the flight to New York.
The dead pax was laid in the galley & covered with blanket the remainder of the flight.
My opinion: poor decision by OCC. It saved the company $s, but hygiene & health, having a dead person in the galley.... ahh... very bad!

My only question is: was Capt Ajay declared dead by a doctor on board?

Jetbuster

Let us honour the Captain that passed away and in respect of his memory and family refrain from flamatory rhetoric(CI999) on this thread.

Qatari515

My condolences to the family, may he RIP!

A doctor on board indeed took care of the formalities. A sad story that should be a wake up call to all of us! Carpe Diem...As it might be over before you realise it.

Lets all donate generously for his family, so at least that is one thing less to worry about.

scandicstar

Well, what I ve heard from the reliable sources that they request BKK for in flt diversion but BKK refused landing due to certain reasons and also the replacement crew were aval at KUL. I was in KUL the afternoon of the said incident after the aircraft landed in KUL for bodevac Correct me if I m wrong

RemoveB4Flght

I read the first page of this, and thought to myself, "how great that everyone can stop the petty remarks on a single thread, and have so many positive things to say about a fellow aviator."

How about we try to keep that tone going and save the logistical atuff for another thread.

Jetjock330

I don't know any of the crew, but I say RIP to the Captain. You seemed to to be well liked and well respected Captain. A sad loss indeed!

As for the F/O, well done, you did your job, a safe landing. I can't think that any of the 260 passengers would worry about where they landed single crew, so long as they landed safely. For this, the new commander deserves applause.

There are many factors to consider, crew experience, availability of an airfield (KUL is better than Kathmandu for example), weather, type of approach, planning, over weight landing???? many things and on top this, he just wants to get it onto the ground, no doubt so many radio transmission interruptions. Well done I say

smartpilot

well said remove B4 flight, jetjock330 & kijangnim

MAKAVELI320

Well said the last two post its time to remember the captain and to give the surport to his family RIP

Hamid_27

Rest In Peace Captain,
Im sure he was an outstanding pilot/husband/father.

My deepest sympathy for the family and friends.

Alcatraz69

Stop this nonsense of calculating miles to divert!.

They did a good job and that's it

Just say some prayers to the loved ones!

sandman330

CI999..... need to get your facts right before you start pointing your finger..

everyone is an expert with their feet firm on the ground.

OCC made the decision to go to KUL, crew mentioned BKK several times.

My condolences to the Captain Ajay, your a great guy, our thoughts are with you and your family.

motley flight crue

If the Capt. is really sick/dying, put out a mayday and land at the nearest suitable. Who cares about crew replacements, your dealing with a life. I wouldn't even get company involved until after landing. Your paid to make these decisions, not some fat money hungry pencil pusher sitting in a leather chair.

a330flyer

We remember a good colleague and all my sympathies go to the family.

...but I completely agree with motley f.c..
my choice after the water would have been a city in Vietnam...declare emergency, nose down, land, get an ambulance...then talk to the company!

jimmyg

My Condolences;

I can only assume that defibulators are still not required equipment as they can save many lives

40&80

It appears QR have handled this tragedy well.... no time was wasted in flying the Captain home to his parents or in contacting his wife.
I just hope QR has life insurance in place on its crews...if only accident insurance... I fear a heart attack will not trigger a payment to his family.
This opens up again the debate of the wisdom of a married pilot having life insurance instead of only loss of licence insurance if he cannot afford or is not provided by his employer with both.
How a company treats it's staff and their family at time of high stress is a test GF often failed in the past... especially in the case of my friend the late Captain Gammage.

smartpilot

well said 40&80 and in the right place, much better than inquiring about the diversion airport.

loc22550

Motley flight crue / a330flyer: make sense to me as well..
Kijangnim: at the CLOSEST point KUL is situated ..600+NM!..south of the MNL-DOH route..just for your info..Is there any closer suitable airport on this route ...?
Lets just hope crew did a "good" job as you mention...